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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">As someone has 'come out' and admitted
to running XP, I will admit to owing an iPad and iPhone ;-)<br>
As a result, I needed an 'Airprint' facility and to back up the
Macs in the house (more admissions), I configured one of my Ubuntu
machines as an Airprint and Timemachine 'server' (the quotes are
because it is actually a desktop install of Ubuntu, the machine
also runs a media server and a few other things). <br>
<br>
If anyone is interested, I've written up the details - nothing
that isn't on the web other than my notes have everything in one
place.<br>
<br>
I'm running it on 12.04 LTS, I've not tested it on anything later.<br>
<br>
A some point I plan to migrant the Airprint function to an R Pi as
since I've invested in an Apple Airport beast, partly as I got a
good discount and partly as I needed to upgrade my NAS storage.
Boy, is Apple kit boring to set up, no tinkering required ;-( <br>
<br>
As an aside, if anyone knows of a cheap alternative to automatic
MAC network backup, I would be interested. My daughter needs one
and the cheapest Apple beast is a bit pricey for her. She doesn't
want a Linux 'gadget' or a massive box, or I would do it with a R
Pi. I'm afraid she is a Mac person to the core.<br>
<br>
Another interesting toy I acquired, mainly to use in our
motorhome, is a Buffalo AirStation 2. It has a built in media
server and 'hotspot' and will serve my android based XMBC media
box and iPad. Great for rainy evenings on wet campsites or if
you've managed to fill your iPod touch with music etc. and need to
access more. <br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 25/09/14 06:37, Thomas Edward Groves wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I've actually come up with a
somewhat similar idea.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">In my case I thought of having
the printer pretend </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">to be a bog-standard flashdrive
(everything supports those (?))</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">where you'd simply copy your file
onto it and then</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">create a file on the drive called
'print' telling the printer how you </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">wanted your file printed.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">On completion the printer would
simply delete 'print'.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">At which point who needs a
driver.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">As for my ML-2165: it's currently
managed by a</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">(shock / horror) XP machine which
is otherwise redundant</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">(and NOT on the internet).</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Many thanks for all the
responses.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Tom</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
black"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:danattwood@gmail.com"
title="danattwood@gmail.com">Dan Attwood</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kent@mailman.lug.org.uk"
title="kent@mailman.lug.org.uk">Kent Linux User Group -
General Topics</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September
24, 2014 8:30 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Klug-general]
Kent Digest, Vol 464, Issue 1</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif;
FONT-SIZE: 13px">"if you look at the marginal </span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">cost, </span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px">then
there's no real objection to adding a Linux driver to the
CDROM </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif;
FONT-SIZE: 13px">that they ship anyway.</span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"> "</span>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE:
13px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">the cost of adding it to a
cd rom is almost nothing. the cost of writing the driver,
testing across multiple printers and distros, supporting
customers with it and maintaining the code long term
however start to stack up fast.</font></div>
<div><br>
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<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif">Long term
i actually think the solution to this are network</span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif"> aware printers that
you can just email the thing to be printed to - like the
google cloud print. This completely removes the need for
drivers and also makes printing form phones, tablets,
internet of things fridge, smart watch etc possible. </span><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 24 September 2014 06:49, Thomas
Edward Groves <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:teg451013@freeuk.com" target="_blank">teg451013@freeuk.com</a>></span>
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solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex">Ok
I'll have another try at getting their driver and
installing it.<br>
<br>
My point about forcing honest answers is that, if you look
at the marginal<br>
cost,<br>
then there's no real objection to adding a Linux driver to
the CDROM<br>
that they ship anyway. So why don't they (and Samsung
doesn't for the<br>
ML-2165)?<br>
<br>
I know I sound paranoic but, for some reason, whenever I
try to do<br>
something which everybody else finds easy I fail.<br>
<br>
Thanks for the replies, I will try again.<br>
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<div class="h5">Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:40
AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Klug-general] Kent Digest, Vol 464,
Issue 1<br>
<br>
<br>
> Yes, I've tried the Samsungs Unified driver,
worked with one of the mono<br>
> laser printers fine but another scanner/laser
printer did not have full<br>
> functionality of the scanner (only used about 50
sheet, will be selling<br>
> shortly ... anyone interested?)... Then the
Samsung driver started<br>
> crashing my whole system (Linux Mint / Mate). I
had difficulty cleaning<br>
> up the mess and getting rid of the driver. No
support given by the<br>
> Samsung guys, so now I am using Epson and they
also have their drivers<br>
> for Linux now, works much better at the moment.
Nice cheap printer<br>
> scanners, XP series, I've had a whole lot that I
had tested.<br>
><br>
> Michael<br>
><br>
> On 23/09/14 10:17, Brian Reay wrote:<br>
> > Well, we live in a free world plus, in the
scheme of things, we Linux<br>
> > people are very much a minority. As a
believer in freedom, I'm not<br>
> > sure I believe in 'forcing' companies to
release information for<br>
> > purely commercial reasons. Safety etc. is,
of course, another matter.<br>
> ><br>
> > As it happens, BTW, Samsung are one of the
good guys. They have a<br>
> > "Unified Driver", which does the business
for my Laser printer, inc.<br>
> > CUPS support, and works with my Airprint
modifications, which allow me<br>
> > to access my system printers from my IOS
devices.<br>
> ><br>
> > Brian<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >> So why can't someone who can *force*
answers ask the printer<br>
> >> manufacturers<br>
> >> (Samsung, are you listening?) to explain
*honestly* why they don't<br>
> >> ship CUPS compatible drivers with their
products?<br>
> >><br>
> >> This whole driver problem is purely down
to the makers of peripherals<br>
> >> and their bleat of "Linux is a niche
market" is just evasion.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I'd like to see one of those Competition
Commissioners in Brussels<br>
> >> start banging heads together.<br>
> >> Why aren't they?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Sorry about the tone but there are too
many people with lots of power<br>
> >> who simply won't use it for some reason.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Tom<br>
> >> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> >> From: Brian Reay <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brian.reay@gmail.com">brian.reay@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >> To: Kent Linux User Group - General
Topics <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kent@mailman.lug.org.uk">kent@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>
> >> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:38 PM<br>
> >> Subject: Re: [Klug-general] Kent Digest,
Vol 464, Issue 1<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>> True.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> But, don't forget things like
printers, video cards, etc. Not all have<br>
> >>> drivers which are 'nice' to install
for Linux (a point Linus T<br>
> >>> acknowledges). People like us
recognise that isn't really a true Linux<br>
> >>> issue, it is the vendors who don't
supply the information or develop<br>
> >>> drivers, or we can find drivers and
install them via the command line<br>
> >>> etc. However, your average
Windows/MacOS user expects them to either<br>
to<br>
> >>> just 'be there', come with the
printer, or be available from the<br>
makers<br>
> >>> website. Suggest he/she needs to
open a terminal, type (to him/her) a<br>
> >>> load of 'black magic nonsense' and
chances are they will reach for the<br>
> >>> Windows 8 CD (Yuk).<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> We like the 'black magic' but, most
users don't. They just want a<br>
> >>> machine to do a 'job', they don't
'get off' on the 'black magic' (so<br>
to<br>
> >>> speak), they are odd. ;-) Worst of
all, many are beyond hope odd, they<br>
> >>> think Windows 8 is good.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Brian<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On 22/09/14 15:24, Gavin Coles
wrote:<br>
> >>>> The way to get people in to
Linux is a long term issue, the best<br>
> >>>> way for<br>
> >>>> my own experience to start with
software that has cross platform<br>
> >>>> availability. So Firefox,
Thunderbird, LibreOffice and like. Once<br>
> >>>> you<br>
> >>>> can show that everything they
need for their day to day use is<br>
> >>>> available<br>
> >>>> on another platform they they
are more willing to try dropping<br>
> >>>> Windows.<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> On 22/09/14 15:15, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kent-request@mailman.lug.org.uk">kent-request@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>
wrote:<br>
> >>>>> Don't forget the issue of
the average user (employee). They will<br>
> >>>>> almost<br>
> >>>>> certainly use Windows
Applications at home, or have come from<br>
> >>>>> employers<br>
> >>>>> which use them, or
educational establishments which taught them.<br>
> >>><br>
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