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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I did mention how much hacman were
charging, but I think we all agreed it would be better to have
more members paying less, than putting people off with a high
price. Hacman do have a starving hacker fee, but you've got to beg
for that.<br>
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I've just had a bit of a discussion on the main hackspace mailing
list about health and safety, and most people seem to think its
not that much of an issue. Maybe a couple of 100 quid a year for
public liability. Infact, someone mentioned that if we can show
ourselves to be 'artists', we can get it for 36 quid a year!
Basically, because theres no actual employees at a hackspace, then
you don't have to worry about major insurance. Of course we may
have to look at content insurance and such like, in case of theft.
CCTV may have to be installed, as well as access cards, etc.<br>
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As far as more detailed health and safety, I think we mentioned on
wednesday that we'd like training for people before they use the
big (dangerous) tools, and that they wouldn't be able to use them
until they'd had the training.<br>
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Nice article btw, Simon. :) As much as I hate H&S, I think we
would need to ensure that we don't make any massive faux pas.
Adequate venting, etc.<br>
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On 30/11/12 15:53, Dave Leack wrote:<br>
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type="cite">Some interesting points there. Public liability
insurance could be a pain, but there must be something that you do
differently if there's membership involved.
<div>There must be some info online about this...</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Simon
Hobson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:linux@thehobsons.co.uk" target="_blank">linux@thehobsons.co.uk</a>></span>
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For our current office space, <<a
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target="_blank">http://www.lancasterlab.org.uk/wiki/index.php/File:DavesOffice.jpg</a>>picture
link (excuse the mess), we pay roughly £400 a month.
Actually, thinking about it, I don't know how reasonable
that is. Something to think about though. (maybe we could
get a 50% subsidy from the council, then we could afford a
space this size with 20 members at a tenner each...)<br>
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HacMan (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hacman.org.uk" target="_blank">http://hacman.org.uk</a>
) charge £25/month.<br>
They've recently relocated as MADlab wasn't really big
enough, plus there were constraints - eg can't make a lot of
noise if the meeting space is in use by another group. So
that's 16 full members to pay the rent, more like 20+ by the
time you've paid the rates and utilities etc - less if you
can get any discount/grant towards the costs.<br>
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Of course, you do need to have some structure and safety
rules in place - or you can get to be in the papers :<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/943138-196/makeit-labs-the-new-hackerspace-in-nashua.html"
target="_blank">http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/943138-196/makeit-labs-the-new-hackerspace-in-nashua.html</a>
(linked from the Wikipedia article on Hackspaces)<br>
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I'd love to be within easy (read cost affordable !)
commuting distance of one - even Lancaster doesn't do it for
me, being up near the end of the 40 mile cul-de-sac that is
the A590 !<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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