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we are meeting this thursday night with a few newbies so wont clash
with your meeting ... but next month ill make it the the first
thursday of the month and keep it at that so it doesnt clash with
the hackerspace meetings!<br>
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yes when i tried back in 2000 there was a mention somebody had
setup one meeting but it never came off! thats why i used the
preston list to get build up the interest to start the lancaster
lug which we had a few meetings then it went to the folly in
2002 thats when i stepped back and it stopped at the folly and
moved to the yorkshire house which didnt last to long soi
reformed it back at the brit and for some reason we moved it to
the gregson!? i wanted to make it more organised in the ways of
demonstrations and events which didnt go down to well! so i
stepped back again! and its gone quiet again! but im back and
this is the new re-newed version! <br>
<br>
<ul>
<li>ill give the site a full update</li>
<li>keep updated LLUG blogs </li>
<li>organise events </li>
<li>keep lists of demonstrations people would like to run</li>
<li>keep lists of demonstrations people would like to see</li>
<li>put posters up to gain more interest locally</li>
<li>keep the mailing list active</li>
<li>keep social networking active</li>
<li>attend every monthly meeting on the 1st thursday to keep
group flowing</li>
<li>be organising and funding the yearly XMAS so like the brit
one i sorted :) ho ho ho</li>
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ive got some new members interested for this meeting and have
some more on the horizon, ill hopefully get the meetings healthy
and well attended as when we had it rolling back in the brit!<br>
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as for distros you cant go wrong with the debain / ubunu distros
for desktop / server setups with the similarities - can you use
the landscape service on the debian server setups?.. its
something im looking at right now and im looking atcloud
computing and juju ill be hopefully running some demo on this
soon as well as a demo for ardour and jack and jamin on linux at
one of the meetings!<br>
at one time was i was doing my rhce,rhct's i was onling using
yum and rpm's now i couldnt see myself going back that was
again.. the only other package system i prefer from them is is
gentoo's but its has a lot of up keep and its far to easy to
break so ill just have that setup in one of the VM's im buidling
this week just to keep my hand in!!!<br>
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good hearing from you darren be great to see you next month for
a geek chat and a pint!<br>
oh and enjoy that gig im sure it will be a good one!<br>
<br>
<br>
wayne <br>
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On 14/05/13 20:19, Darren Poulson wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hey people! I'm here too, tho won't be able to
make it to the meeting tomorrow due to last minute cheap
tickets to see New Model Army in Preston.<br>
<br>
This is actually the third incarnation of a Lancaster LUG if I
recall correctly. About 20 years ago a couple of friends tried
to start one, but very little interest back then. A few years
later my housemate started one up for a couple of years too.
:) This one seems to be hanging on in there! I could be wrong,
the memory is the first thing to go so they say! ;)
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<div style="">As far as distro of choice, I still prefer
debian for servers (headless machines) and Ubuntu for
desktops. For work I'm stuck with CentOS boxes, but that
wasn't my choice. Debian/Ubuntu's upgrade paths are so much
better than CentOS or RPM based distros. I'm not sure about
the way they all seem to be going as far as the user
interface. I try to use vanilla ubuntu as much as possible
with the view that I can then recommend it to others and
know how to answer their queries. Also, it means I'm allowed
to bitch about it! :) Do need to have a proper mess with
gnome 3, but last time I tried it didn't like my triple
monitor setup.</div>
<div style="">Windows I haven't used since XP, and last one I
installed at home to use was 98! :D</div>
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<div style="">Ken, how hard was the ham license? I've been
tempted many times in the past, mainly for packet radio, but
never got round to it. Definitely more interested now
they've dropped the morse requirement. </div>
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<div style="">I'm actually doing less with linux outside work
these days, I find it just works and don't think about it
any more. Good sign of success! I'm getting more into the
arduino side of things, but just got another couple of Pi
boards to mess with. They're a really good combination of
power and hackability. Arduino still have the edge if you
want solid state and low power, just designing an electronic
dice circuit on an attiny chip, small enough to fit into a
keyring. If anyone wants a case for a Pi, let me know and
I'll cut one out with my laser cutter! :) My first two Pi
are running xbmc and some energy monitoring software. (<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://emoncms.org">emoncms.org</a>)</div>
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<div style="">Anyway, if you have another meeting next month
I'm up for it. Also got hacker space meetings running
monthly (2nd thursday of each month), so would be good if
they don't clash! ;)</div>
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interesting ken i just got these two raspberrys to use as
front ends for xbmc to stream media from my nas, although
i have installed and used a desktop machine and had quake
3 running on them.. great for media servers, ive just
updated both of them to the latest version of xbian and
xbmc andthey are running great i think the machines lack
optical out or a module that plugs in for optical out as a
lot of people are using for home cinema setups!<br>
they are quiet cheap to buy and cases are like 5 pound
each if you want to change the case! you can also power of
a mobile phone charger or from the USB on your TV!<br>
<br>
Wayne<br>
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On 14/05/13 14:47, Ken Hough wrote:<br>
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Tuesday 14 May 2013 14:14:58 you wrote:<br>
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you get a look at the raspberry Pi ken...<br>
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I've been reading about it in Linux Format, etc, but I
just don't have the<br>
time to play with one. I do have an old Arduino and have
developed software<br>
for it to control a couple of stepper motors via a home
made interface/driver<br>
board. This software can be compiled to run either as a
stand alone app<br>
controlled via Arduino I/O lines, or via USB to a PC.
I've also developed a<br>
matching GUI app to drive the Arduino app from a PC. All
done under Linux of<br>
course.<br>
<br>
The raspberry Pi is clearly a much more powerful and
complete device than<br>
Arduino. Maybe one day......
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Ken Hough<br>
Kendal<br>
Cumbria<br>
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I didn't realise that you were the creator of
this Lug. Well done!<br>
<br>
My first contact was at the Folly -- just
across the road from the<br>
prison, My contacts with the LUG have been
patchy, mainly because I live<br>
so far away. It's definitely not because of lack
of interest in Linux.<br>
The more I see of recent MS Windows developments
(shenanigans?), the<br>
more I appreciate Linux. I recently got to play
with Windows 8 ---<br>
Ughhh!<br>
<br>
I mentioned that I've recently installed the
latest version of Debian (64<br>
bit Wheezy v7.0.0). For anyone thinking of doing
likewise, there are a<br>
few points that might be of interest:<br>
<br>
1. Synaptic<br>
Before running synaptic, run the command
'apt-get update', otherwise when<br>
trying to do a package search, Synaptic simply
and unceremoniously shuts<br>
down! Someone has messed up on this one.<br>
<br>
2. Annoying speech synthesiser<br>
By default, all keyboard actions are reported
via a speech synthesiser<br>
-- even to the extent that sounds of individual
key letters are spoken.<br>
I found that this rapidly becomes VERY annoying.
I intend to disable<br>
this ASAP.<br>
<br>
3. Don't like Gnome 3!<br>
It's quite pretty, but not very sensible in
ergonomic terms. For example,<br>
to access the windows box down the RIGHT hand
side of the screen, one<br>
must first click on "Actions" which is situated
at the top LEFT hand<br>
side of the screen. IMHO, very silly! Why not
show the box when the<br>
curser is pushed up to the right hand side of
the screen? For now, I've<br>
reverted to "classic gnome" and am renewing
contact with KDE. I used to<br>
use KDE3.<br>
<br>
My main PC is fitted with plug-in hard drive
caddies, so it's easy to<br>
swap drives. So just now, I have my normal
working system on one drive<br>
(which I'm using just now) and other trial
systems on other drives. This<br>
makes trying out new stuff a breeze.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Ken Hough<br>
Kendal<br>
Cumbria<br>
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On Monday 13 May 2013 17:48:18 Wayne Ward wrote:<br>
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> Ah somebody is still
on the list!!<br>
The amateur radio stuff sounds interesting ken<br>
<br>
I used to swear by debian its solid i used to
use the studio64 edition<br>
used to work a treat for me, im currently
running ubuntu on my<br>
workstation and laptop and soon will be using
it on the nexus 4 and<br>
nexus 7 when the final release of debian touch
arrives! Im using unity<br>
but im going to try gnome on a VM when i get
my new dell xps developer<br>
edition this week! Its good hearing from you
ken and glad to hear your<br>
still running linux and hopefully see you at
one of the next meetings<br>
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im just trying to date back when i originally
created the LUG and its<br>
going back to 2000 im thinking because i did
the first meeting at the<br>
george and dragon back in 2000 and it didnt
work so the folly created<br>
one in 2002 as faras i can see from the
archive on the mailing lists!<br>
did you attend the first meeting at the george
and dragon on the quay i<br>
cant remember it was that long ago!!!<br>
<br>
wayne<br>
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RE<br>
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Hi Wayne,<br>
<br>
It's good to see that you are keeping the LUG
ball rolling. I haven't<br>
been down to Lancaster for some time, mainly
because other interests<br>
are taking up my time -- mainly amateur radio.
I now have a full<br>
amateur radio license which means that not
only can I transmit on any<br>
of the amateur radio frequencies, but I am
also allowed to build my own<br>
transmitters, etc.<br>
<br>
Of course I still use Debian Linux as my main
OS with VirtualBox for the<br>
odd occasion when I have to use Win XP. I use
'wine' for a few Win apps<br>
that can be run via wine.<br>
<br>
Last night I downloaded and installed the
latest and very recently<br>
released version of Debian Linux (Wheezy
v7.0.0). As expected with<br>
Debian, installation went faultlessly.<br>
<br>
Not sure that I like the latest desktop, but
then I'm still a Gnome 2<br>
user who is used to a big VDU (Dell Ultrasharp
24") and a comfortable<br>
mouse. It seems to me that recent desktops are
really aimed at small<br>
touch screens. I dislike recent versions of
Ubuntu for the same reason.<br>
<br>
Time will tell.<br>
<br>
Keep up the good work.<br>
<br>
Best wishes to all.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Ken Hough<br>
Kendal<br>
Cumbria<br>
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