Yep I am lead. I am building from a debian system. Dont worry about the code not working ;)<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 01/04/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">iain Baker</b> <<a href="mailto:iain.dbaker@gmail.com">
iain.dbaker@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Wait a minute... i hope this isn't someone trying to apply sense and
<br>logic to the proceedings...<br><br>ok, im gonna see what i can do to add to/confirm your thought process<br>(these are only my opinions! please give us yours)<br><br>On 4/1/07, James Taylor <<a href="mailto:jt@imen.org.uk">
jt@imen.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br>> Can we take a second to discuss the actual requirments as this is getting<br>> into a slag fest of favorite distos without it seems, actually applying any<br>> logic or real discussion on the point. Now, I've made some assumptions here,
<br>> so if you disagree with any of the questions, with any of the answers or<br>> want to provide better ones then please go ahead without biting my head<br>> off...<br>><br>> 1) Whats the genaral point?<br>
> To get a bootable cd with as much software on to get people using Linux. The<br>> cd should let them use Linux whilst not destorying their windows<br>> installation, but allow them to install it from the CD [without a network
<br>> connection].<br><br>sounds about right<br><br>> 2) What people?<br>> People who arn't nessicairly computer literate, people who maybe dont know<br>> what an OS is.<br><br>sounds about right... and also people who have heard of Linux and want
<br>to give it a try but don't know how<br><br>> 3) Limitations because of the above?<br>> Well, you've got to make it bootable and theres technical tricks that let<br>> you mount compressed drives, but you're looking at playing with about 3 gig
<br>> of virtual space on the 700 Mb Cd (I just made that up, cause I cant<br>> remember, and I'm not an expert on the compression mounting thing, nor know<br>> how much space has to be on the uncompressed partition)
<br><br>cant correct you because i dont know either... but the theory is sound<br><br>> 4) Package Management.<br>> There MUST be a package manager, (I havn't seen anyone pushing slackware as<br>> a base system). This package manager allows the installation of basic
<br>> pre-configured binarys and settings files AND source files for custom<br>> compilation. Custom packages should be easy to create to maintain the system<br>> integrety (for removal of any file/package)<br><br>
Package manager is rather inconsequential whilst in Live CD mode, but<br>yes, it will be needed for post install - and should be easy to use!!<br><br>> 5) Package Updating<br>> The computers will pull from a customisable list of servers the contents of
<br>> updated packages for installing, through the use of various tools both<br>> graphical and normal.<br><br>Agree so far<br><br>> 6) Default Package Repositorys<br>> Supposing that we rebadge [distoX]. Are we suggesting that the [distoX
<br>> default servers] should be used, or are we going to have LincsDisto source<br>> servers (and :. a requirmenet for Lincs members to be responsible for<br>> package maintainance of this distribution (and generic support for people
<br>> who will want to use both our sources and other compatible sources).<br>> (Obviously the latter is nearly inconcevable amount of work, but if the<br>> former, how does the Linc's default settings get applied to these installs?)
<br><br>erm... yeah... about that... unless someone wants to become incredibly<br>devoted i think maintaining our own repositories is a job too far...<br>which may mean the branding may need to be limited to the desktop and
<br>not the apps... that way LUGifying the Distro is a one shot action...<br>what do other people think?<br><br>> 7) Official managment of release<br>> Who is responsible for the official managment of releases? How will the
<br>> documentation of releases work? Is there going to be a checking system, by<br>> that I mean very much committe level for which disputes or arguments can be<br>> put to? (This can be very simple through the use of something like UK Voting
<br>> or similar)<br>><br>> 8) Contributors<br>> Exactly how will contributing to the system work? (The answer to this<br>> question again depends on various answers above).<br><br>to 7 and 8 i say... Yes! or Good point! or maybe even, Oops! at the
<br>moment its a one man band with graphical input from anyone that wants<br>to post... but that has its faults...<br><br>> 9) Documentation<br>> Is there an associated documentation project / how is this going to work?
<br>> (the answer of this question depends on various answers from above)<br><br>No... not yet, but this is another place that anyone can contribute...<br>referring to Chris Adams as the projects current lead.<br><br>> 10) Legal bumpf
<br>> Are lincs covered legally for this release breaking computers. Supposing<br>> there is a mistake in the instructions to install software, which causes<br>> users to wipe their drives, under any situations, are Lincs
<br>> members/distribution maintainers/documentors at risk from being sued. (Has<br>> legal advice (and by that I mean professional legal advice eg fsf or<br>> professional body) been sought on this topic)<br><br>
Easy.. Not if we put a disclaimer on it (see any magazine cover disk)<br><br>> 11) Install to disk What options does the disto have for pernament<br>> installation?<br>> The disto should allow a range of installations, including just using a
<br>> folder on the fat32 as well as full blwon reinstall. There should be options<br>> to install base system without any extra packages, as well as standard user<br>> install.<br><br>in my mind i had a similar install to disk option as Knoppix- installs
<br>the live cd as is, then use package management afterwards to make any<br>adjustments... but i may be over simplifying the options<br><br>> 12) What license is the disto under?<br>> hahahah im not going to try to answer that one. I will get it wrong
<br>> (Presumably more then one disto)<br><br>again... a good point well presented (although maybe more pie charts<br>are in order next time to jazz it up a bit?)<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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