Hi Becky,<div><br></div><div>What you still doing up this time of night?</div><div><br></div><div>I completely agree with everything you've said, I guess I just wanted to make sure that you were aware that although being quiet, I wouldn't quite say dead ;-) members, including me, were still here and ready to make this work in the best possible way.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As for the Administration stepping down graciously, to be honest, there wasn't really one in the first place. We never got that far; Iain and I tried to get the LUG going again a while back but we were overtaken by events.</div>
<div><br></div><div>On a personal side, my toes won't get stepped on, I'm certainly not the right person to 'run' the LUG as I'm away with work far too much. I do, however, enjoy being at the forefront of the organisation but I'm better at contributing something that can be done both locally or remotely. ;-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>So as far as I can see as long as Iain has no issues, he was the lead really, then we should push forward with gusto.</div><div><br></div><div>And having good, honest discussions like this is a good sign showing that we can all be open with each other which engenders trust. A vital part of any team.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Dave</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Rebecca Newborough <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bobobex@bobobex.org">bobobex@bobobex.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Dave Rice <<a href="mailto:dave@ricey.co.uk">dave@ricey.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> Becky, Hi,<br>
> a whole new LUG? You may be right that the whole LUG needs a 'reboot' if you<br>
> will.<br>
> But, please, and I mean this in the nicest way, do anything the correct way.<br>
> This will avoid putting any existing members' 'noses' out of joint.<br>
> Just pushing ahead with great enthusiasm is wholly admirable, but just<br>
> 'taking over' without consulting others is not the way to go about bringing<br>
> your, undoubtedly great, ideas to fruition.<br>
> As we know FOSS is all about community and it's that community that is the<br>
> most important thing.<br>
> Any previous administration of Lincs LUG may have been a little on the quiet<br>
> side, but then this is a unique LUG because of it's size and the members'<br>
> real world jobs/lives etc.<br>
> As for the web side of things, thanks for registering the names on our<br>
> behalf but as for the VPS, the LUG already has access to a VPS. Given for<br>
> free for our use. Do we need another?<br>
> Again, I'm more than happy to re-vitalise/reboot this great group of people,<br>
> but please make sure you don't step on any toes ;-)<br>
> Many thanks,<br>
> Dave<br>
<br>
Hi Dave<br>
<br>
</div>Equally, I mean this in the nicest possible way that yes, you are<br>
completely correct about the importance of FOSS and how it is about<br>
the community, but for the last few years there has been no real<br>
community within the existing LLUG or any importance given to it, and<br>
this is what I would like to see changed. I am doing this openly on<br>
the mailing list and anybody is welcome to contribute their<br>
input/feedback on how they want their LUG run.<br>
<br>
I am not trying to step on anyone's toes or put anyone's noses out of<br>
joint. Existing members and administrators have had ample opportunity<br>
within the last 2+ years to drive this LUG forward positively. I am<br>
not trying to take over the existing LLUG, as to all intents and<br>
purposes there is no existing LLUG - it is dead and has been for a<br>
long while. I am proposing to start a new and revigorated Lincs LUG.<br>
The VPS issue is a mere technicality at the moment which can be<br>
discussed further at our first meeting :-)<br>
<br>
The responses that I have had today from existing members of LLUG, and<br>
from members of neighbouring LUGs have been both positive and<br>
enthusiastic for change. Lincolnshire is unique in that it is one of<br>
the largest rural counties but then again, other rural LUGs such as<br>
Hampshire, continue to thrive despite their rurality. I understand<br>
that you may have jobs that take you out of the area (by your own<br>
admission you are in the States for 3 months!), however that is not<br>
really an excuse and would be more of a reason to hand the reins over<br>
to someone who is more permanently based in Lincolnshire and who is<br>
willingly offering to take the LUG forward.<br>
<br>
All I am asking is that the existing LLUG administration steps down<br>
considerately. Members of every LUG come and go and LLUG is no<br>
different. When somebody leaves or disengages from the LUG, in whole<br>
or in part, we should ask that they do so in a way that minimises<br>
disruption to the LUG. This means they should tell people they are<br>
leaving and take the proper steps to ensure that others can pick up<br>
where they left off. This has not been done in the case of the<br>
existing LLUG as I am sure that others from the mailing list will<br>
testify.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Becky<br>
<br>
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