<p>As a previous <a href="http://lug.org.uk">lug.org.uk</a> admin, on their behalf I would rather you didn't use them too, because it's not what they are there for and they have enough to do already... But fear not, as I said, I am not protective of my position within the lug (which is only because <a href="http://lug.org.uk">lug.org.uk</a> need a nominated point of contact) , and if the lug wants you at the helm than I am more than happy to notify <a href="http://lug.org.uk">lug.org.uk</a> of the change of 'power', make you a facebook page admin, et al.</p>
<p>I would just say, whilst it is all the rage in the middle east, I feel completing the diplomatic side might have been nice before starting a coup, registering domains, starting a twitter account, and subtly threatening to involve external agencies.</p>
<p>This is not my lug, it has never been my lug, and I dare say this is the first many knew of my position as 'lugmaster' - the lug has always been about what the mass wants... so I would propose (for fairness) an opportunity for others to stand forward as potential lugmasters, for candidates to outline their plans, and the members to choose who they want.</p>
<p>This is probably an academic exercise as you may be the only one to stand and everyone would rather an active lug than a dormant (not dead, never dead) one... But I still feel in the interest of democracy and free choice out should be done properly rather than "you've done nothing with it, I want a go now".</p>
<p>Once you have been fairly chosen as lugmaster I will happily help you in any way I can... As I have already said. If that means taking a place on the board, I will, I'd it means becoming a normal member then I will... I will not stand in your way! </p>
<p>Now lets do this properly, and get the lug moving again (again).</p>
<p>On 19 Aug 2011 16:27, "Rebecca Newborough" <<a href="mailto:bobobex@bobobex.org">bobobex@bobobex.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:37 PM, iain Baker <<a href="mailto:iain.dbaker@gmail.com">iain.dbaker@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Ok, thanks for promoting me becky, my phone has obviously been ignoring my<br>>> email for a while...<br>>><br>>> First for your questions:<br>>> Yes I would attend... I attended the first real life meeting, the bcs joint<br>
>> meet, and the pub meet... If I am available I'll be there<br>>> I don't expect anything, any kind of meet is good<br>>> As for locations, I'm as flexible as I am on the meet content<br>>><br>
>> Now to respond to the rest of the thread...<br>>> Unfortunately because of the geographical size of the lug and peoples<br>>> commitments it has been incredibly difficult to organise a meet that keeps<br>
>> more than 10% happy (me and mark tried - me and dave tried). Its frustrating<br>>> because while quiet, the lug has lots of proactive energetic members that<br>>> want to see it succeed, that get all enthused every time a rebirth is<br>
>> mooted... Unfortunately that enthusiasm wains when results aren't instant or<br>>> close enough...<br>>><br>>> as for the current administration, there isn't one. I believe Chris Lingard<br>
>> is still registered as owner <a href="http://withlug.org.uk">withlug.org.uk</a> but he handed the reigns to mark<br>>> a decade ago, who in turn gave it to me when he moved back to germany.<br>>><br>>> The members have always been against the idea of formal membership, and a<br>
>> proper 'board' preferring the borg collective methodology... Hence each re<br>>> birth failing to last too long.<br>>><br>>> I am not protective of any position, assumed or otherwise with in the lug<br>
>> and welcome your enthusiasm and fresh ideas. I will happily help you work<br>>> any aspect of the revitalisation if this sleeping giant. With the depth of<br>>> knowledge and experience in the lug we could do a lot for every kind of<br>
>> user.<br>>><br>>> Iain<br>> <br>> Hi Iain<br>> <br>> Thank you for your response. If I could get 10% of the members<br>> together for a meet, I would be happy. Even if just one person turned<br>
> up, I would be happy! Geography is not a barrier in my book - if<br>> people want to attend something worthwhile, then they will regardless<br>> of distance needed to travel. The energetic and proactive LUG members<br>
> that you talk about will decide for themselves whether they think the<br>> LUG will succeed, and I am confident that I am the right person with<br>> enough drive and enthusiasm to make this a success. Give me a chance<br>
> to prove myself :D<br>> <br>> You talk about there being no current administration and this was what<br>> my original email to you was about. According to the <a href="http://lug.org.uk">lug.org.uk</a><br>> website, the contact details for Lincolnshire LUG shows you as current<br>
> contact/LUGmaster, yet nothing has happened on the website, the<br>> mailing list or regarding a meet-up for years. This by its own<br>> definition and the <a href="http://lug.org.uk">lug.org.uk</a>'s website definition deems that the LUG<br>
> is dead. You stated above that Chris passed the reins to Mark, and he<br>> in turn passed them to you. All excuses or reasons behind this aside,<br>> I am now asking if you can pass them onto to me? I would like the<br>
> handover between us to be amicable and would prefer not to use the<br>> <a href="http://lug.org.uk">lug.org.uk</a> admins.<br>> <br>> I cannot speak for what has gone before regarding a "formal"<br>
> board/membership for the members, however, times and attitudes change<br>> so that may not be the case now. I am proposing a complete reset of<br>> the LUG which will include all of the existing members and bringing<br>
> new ones on board. If you really want to see this "sleeping giant"<br>> revitalised, I hope that I can depend on you to pass over the<br>> Lincolnshire LUG master position and associated web properties<br>
> (facebook & <a href="http://identi.ca">identi.ca</a>).<br>> <br>> I look forward to seeing you at the first meeting and I hope that I<br>> can depend on your continued support of the Lincolnshire LUG.<br>
> <br>> Kind regards<br>> <br>> Becky<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Lincs mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Lincs@mailman.lug.org.uk">Lincs@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>
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