That should read "I agree, use Linux and load the inferior operating systems USING virtual box, Xen<br>
or Wine." damn you keyboard.<br><br>This would make an interesting discussion at the Next Liverpool LUG. Could we table in a discussion slot about Linux and Microsoft support on the Liverpool LUG. We could then make it clear to new members where we stand to save any further embarrasment. It should produce a good slanging match if nothing else.<br>
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Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Liverpool Digest, Vol 168, Issue 4<br>
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I agree, use Linux and load the inferior operating systems virtual box, Xen<br>
or Wine.<br>
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> 4. Ubuntu Jaunty Release Party (Andrew Williams)<br>
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> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:35:10 +0000<br>
> From: ian <<a href="mailto:ian.t.s.smith@tesco.net">ian.t.s.smith@tesco.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Multi-Boot Query<br>
> To: Liverpool Linux User Group <<a href="mailto:liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk">liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>
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> Hi<br>
><br>
> Try<br>
> <a href="http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html" target="_blank">http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html</a><br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Ian<br>
> On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 18:40 +0000, Scott Brimin wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Good evening, y'all.<br>
> ><br>
> > I have need for some advice on a matter of multi-booting OS'. My problem<br>
> > is more specifically windows but my solution is sufficiently 'nix to<br>
> > justify my use of this forum.<br>
> ><br>
> > So here goes it.<br>
> ><br>
> > I'm planning on installing multiple versions and different OS' on my<br>
> > computer. For the sake of simplifying the situation, let's say I want:<br>
> ><br>
> > 1) Windows XP Professional<br>
> > 2) Windows XP Professional (x64)<br>
> > 3) Windows Vista Business<br>
> > 4) Kubuntu 8.10<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > They will all be on a single hard disk with GRUB, naturally, as<br>
> boot-loader.<br>
> ><br>
> > The problem I foresee is that I want all three Windows to have the same<br>
> > drive letters and setups. But I'm fairly certain that the system drive<br>
> > letters will increment as C, E, F. I want all system drives to be C.<br>
> ><br>
> > I've taken a look at grub and I know it can hide partitions and swap<br>
> > partition positions.<br>
> ><br>
> > Can anyone offer any advice, docs and/or help to solve my problems?<br>
> ><br>
> > Please and thank you.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Liverpool mailing list<br>
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> From: Simon Johnson <<a href="mailto:simon.johnson@gmail.com">simon.johnson@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Multi-Boot Query<br>
> To: Liverpool Linux User Group <<a href="mailto:liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk">liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>
> Message-ID:<br>
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> ><br>
> > what if i asked you about where i can find *legal* good porn online<br>
> > through this maillist?<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> I'd be happy to oblige. :)<br>
><br>
><br>
> > would you help me if you could? the question is still related to<br>
> computers<br>
> > (*online porn*), so maybe a Linux Users Group is a good place to ask? :)<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> God (Algore?) created the Internet so men and women alike could find porn<br>
> 24<br>
> hours a day. Since most of these porn sites use Linux based servers, I<br>
> think<br>
> porn definitely fits the remit of this discussion group.<br>
> On the subject of Windows questions - It wasn't that off topic. For the<br>
> next<br>
> decade or so, we're going to have people who need/want to run a variety of<br>
> proprietary operating systems side by side with Linux. Hopefully, in the<br>
> fullness of time, they'll see the benefit of using free software and<br>
> eventually they won't use the closed source stuff at all.<br>
> I wonder if Vladimir would have a problem with a System V or AIX question<br>
> on<br>
> this discussion group? After all, while these systems are clearly Unix<br>
> based<br>
> they are fully proprietary.<br>
> Kind Regards,<br>
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> From: Andy Carter <<a href="mailto:andy.carter@theroom.org">andy.carter@theroom.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Multi-Boot Query<br>
> To: Liverpool Linux User Group <<a href="mailto:liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk">liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>
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> Hi Scott,<br>
><br>
> My advice would be to try virtualisation, unless you particularly need<br>
> every ounce of performance your machine offers within each OS. My<br>
> personal preference is for VMware Workstation running on Ubuntu,<br>
> although one of my colleagues is more than happy with VirtualBox.<br>
><br>
> Kind Regards<br>
><br>
> Andy<br>
><br>
> Scott Brimin wrote:<br>
> > Good evening, y'all.<br>
> ><br>
> > I have need for some advice on a matter of multi-booting OS'. My problem<br>
> > is more specifically windows but my solution is sufficiently 'nix to<br>
> > justify my use of this forum.<br>
> ><br>
> > So here goes it.<br>
> ><br>
> > I'm planning on installing multiple versions and different OS' on my<br>
> > computer. For the sake of simplifying the situation, let's say I want:<br>
> ><br>
> > 1) Windows XP Professional<br>
> > 2) Windows XP Professional (x64)<br>
> > 3) Windows Vista Business<br>
> > 4) Kubuntu 8.10<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > They will all be on a single hard disk with GRUB, naturally, as<br>
> boot-loader.<br>
> ><br>
> > The problem I foresee is that I want all three Windows to have the same<br>
> > drive letters and setups. But I'm fairly certain that the system drive<br>
> > letters will increment as C, E, F. I want all system drives to be C.<br>
> ><br>
> > I've taken a look at grub and I know it can hide partitions and swap<br>
> > partition positions.<br>
> ><br>
> > Can anyone offer any advice, docs and/or help to solve my problems?<br>
> ><br>
> > Please and thank you.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Liverpool mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:Liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk">Liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>
> > <a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/liverpool" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/liverpool</a><br>
> ><br>
><br>
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> Message: 4<br>
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:26:39 +0000<br>
> From: Andrew Williams <<a href="mailto:andy@tensixtyone.com">andy@tensixtyone.com</a>><br>
> Subject: [Liverpool] Ubuntu Jaunty Release Party<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk">liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>
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> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> Just making a slight cross post from the Ubuntu UK list, Lucy from<br>
> Manchester Free Software is looking to try and organise a launch party<br>
> for Ubuntu Jaunty in Manchester for the end of April (24-28th ish).<br>
> So, just to assist a little, who would be interested in attending this<br>
> type of event?<br>
><br>
> I know Lucy is on the list so she'll see the responses :)<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Andrew Williams<br>
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> From: Simon Johnson <<a href="mailto:simon.johnson@gmail.com">simon.johnson@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Ubuntu Jaunty Release Party<br>
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> I would! Ubuntu is Debian based after all.<br>
><br>
> Simon<br>
><br>
> 2009/3/20 Andrew Williams <<a href="mailto:andy@tensixtyone.com">andy@tensixtyone.com</a>><br>
><br>
> > Hi all,<br>
> ><br>
> > Just making a slight cross post from the Ubuntu UK list, Lucy from<br>
> > Manchester Free Software is looking to try and organise a launch party<br>
> > for Ubuntu Jaunty in Manchester for the end of April (24-28th ish).<br>
> > So, just to assist a little, who would be interested in attending this<br>
> > type of event?<br>
> ><br>
> > I know Lucy is on the list so she'll see the responses :)<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Andrew Williams<br>
> > w: <a href="http://tensixtyone.com/" target="_blank">http://tensixtyone.com/</a><br>
> > e: <a href="mailto:andy@tensixtyone.com">andy@tensixtyone.com</a><br>
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> From: Andrew Williams <<a href="mailto:andy@tensixtyone.com">andy@tensixtyone.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Multi-Boot Query<br>
> To: Liverpool Linux User Group <<a href="mailto:liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk">liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>
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> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:35:10PM +0000, ian wrote:<br>
> > Hi<br>
> ><br>
> > Try<br>
> > <a href="http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html" target="_blank">http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html</a><br>
><br>
> Becareful witht his one, I know XP and it's ilk doesn't really like it's<br>
> drives being reordered by GRUB. Maybe one solution is to have a<br>
> multi-install on one partition, then use the NTLDR/boot.ini to select<br>
> the OS version.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Andrew Williams<br>
> w: <a href="http://tensixtyone.com/" target="_blank">http://tensixtyone.com/</a><br>
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> From: Lucy <<a href="mailto:lucybridges@gmail.com">lucybridges@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Ubuntu Jaunty Release Party<br>
> To: Liverpool Linux User Group <<a href="mailto:liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk">liverpool@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>
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> 2009/3/20 Andrew Williams <<a href="mailto:andy@tensixtyone.com">andy@tensixtyone.com</a>>:<br>
> > Hi all,<br>
> ><br>
> > Just making a slight cross post from the Ubuntu UK list, Lucy from<br>
> > Manchester Free Software is looking to try and organise a launch party<br>
> > for Ubuntu Jaunty ?in Manchester for the end of April (24-28th ish).<br>
> > So, just to assist a little, who would be interested in attending this<br>
> > type of event?<br>
> ><br>
> > I know Lucy is on the list so she'll see the responses :)<br>
><br>
> Thanks Andrew :)<br>
><br>
> I've put up a poll for arranging a date as well:<br>
> <a href="http://doodle.com/fw345vzdahtiy4wd" target="_blank">http://doodle.com/fw345vzdahtiy4wd</a>. Could people please add in what<br>
> days they'd be interested in attending?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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