hi, folks! (more ppl joining into our discussion)<div><br><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">firstly i HAVE tried all that i could to get Crunchbang to operate in a capacity that i see fit to use.</blockquote>
<div>ok, fair enough. just out of curiosity: what kind of issues/problems you faced? </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> to automatically assume that someone is too lazy to find solutions is quite honestly rather rude,</blockquote>
<div>yes, u r right. sorry for that. once again, didn't mean it in that offensive way.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> and does not bode well with putting across a good image for Linux users.</blockquote>
<div>well, as we are on Linux Users' mailing list, so in a way this is an insider discussions. </div><div>outside of linux users' circles my wordings would be ... more polished and polite</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<br></div><div>also with regard to the comment about browser offerings: you DO realise that Chrome, Opera, Firefox all have Windows counterparts (which are the offerings i was referring to).</div></blockquote><div> </div>
<div>what is "Opera's windows counterpart"?</div><div><br></div><div>i do know a bit more about the browsers than an average joe. </div><div>and if you are not talking about MSIE's different modifications (based on feature-expansion)</div>
<div>then there are not that much browsers (not talking about obscurities here).</div><div>Opera, Firefox and Chrome are cross platform (the later still has a way to walk), Safari runs on both windows and linux.</div><div>
MSIE - is a windows only browser. </div><div><br></div><div>the options are limited, i would say, so calling them "browser offerings" and suggesting that it is worth hassle of obtaining a version of windows (and paying for it!), learning to install it on a real hardware (what means obtaining the various drivers for the system's hardware components) and investing your time to see that the windows version of FF is somewhat faster then the linux one?</div>
<div><br></div><div>i use firefox everywhere. i know it runs best on mac osx and that windows version doesn't have some issues, that the linux version does. </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div></div><div><br></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div>to again return to the comment about "laziness" and the shortcomings, if any open source software is to gain any kind of momentum amongst the "average joe" user, then it needs to be attractive to that end user. having a browsing experience that is slower than that of the SAME browser running in a closed source operating system is not going to be that attractive.</div>
</blockquote><div>i agree. never argued with that. what i am saying is that the difference is not that significant. </div><div>just remembered, i use firefox on windows once a while when i see one friend of mine, who runs windows on her laptop with firefox. </div>
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