Maybe bestbuy could add, don't try Linux as the browser experience is rubbish, buy Windows 7 instead!<br><br>Firefox is a splendid application and should be supported as should all open source endeavours.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:01:56 +0100<br>
From: Simon Johnson <<a href="mailto:simon.johnson@gmail.com">simon.johnson@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?<br>
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Sounds like a good idea.<br>
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Any Saturday (except this one) is good with me.<br>
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Simon<br>
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2009/9/8 Will Noakes <<a href="mailto:wnoakes@yahoo.com">wnoakes@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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> sorry can't make it this saturday, going to a rave in the Williamson's<br>
> Tunnels :D<br>
><br>
> Will<br>
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> 2009/9/8 Andrew Williams <<a href="mailto:andy@tensixtyone.com">andy@tensixtyone.com</a>><br>
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>> At the last meeting we had the usual discussion about pub locations and<br>
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>><br>
>> So, maybe time for a LUG pub crawl, to find a new local watering hole!<br>
>><br>
>> While short notice, would anyone be up for it this Saturday?<br>
>><br>
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> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Bestbuy's Linux training<br>
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> 2009/9/8 Dan Lynch <<a href="mailto:biglynchy@gmail.com">biglynchy@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andrew Williams <<a href="mailto:andy@tensixtyone.com">andy@tensixtyone.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> When Microsoft are spreading the FUD at retail level, how can Linux<br>
>>> defend itself? Jo public is looking at the "experts" at retail stores to<br>
>>> direct their purchases, we've already seen this happen with the fight<br>
>>> over Linux vs. Windows netbooks.<br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
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>>><br>
>>><br>
>> I read this yesterday and it's pretty sickening. They're saying that<br>
>> Windows is more secure than Linux because it gets regular security updates.<br>
>> Regular?! Once a month on patch Tuesday, really regular that. Most Linux<br>
>> distros get almost daily updates. They also seem to argue it's more secure<br>
>> because there are anti-virus & malware products available for Windows from<br>
>> large vendors. Completely ignoring the fact you don't need those things on<br>
>> Linux. They are still available if you want them, ClamAV etc.<br>
>><br>
>> It's not hard to see why the "experts" in most shops are so full of shit<br>
>> with training programs like this. The whole "take our brainwashing course<br>
>> and get a cheap copy of Windows" approach bothers me as well. Typical MS<br>
>> buying people off with bribes and spreading their misinformation.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm glad someone brought this to light. How much else is out there that we<br>
>> don't know about though? The mind boggles.<br>
>><br>
>> Dan<br>
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You're not even available this saturday Andy!<br>
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> At the last meeting we had the usual discussion about pub locations and<br>
> such, The Welkin, while cheap is a bit of a trek away.<br>
><br>
> So, maybe time for a LUG pub crawl, to find a new local watering hole!<br>
><br>
> While short notice, would anyone be up for it this Saturday?<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Andrew Williams<br>
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:23:25 +0100<br>
From: Dan Lynch <<a href="mailto:biglynchy@gmail.com">biglynchy@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?<br>
To: <a href="mailto:jo@thatgirl.co.uk">jo@thatgirl.co.uk</a>, Liverpool Linux User Group<br>
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> You're not even available this saturday Andy!<br>
><br>
<br>
Oh god that's funny :D Nice one Andy. I'm not sure I could make it this<br>
Saturday but that seems academic now as neither can anyone else. I'm off to<br>
America next Friday for LinuxCon (any excuse to mention that), so next week<br>
is out and probably the one after. If you can decide on a date let me know<br>
and I'll do my best to get there :)<br>
<br>
While I'm not against going out on a Saturday night (at all), I'm not<br>
convinced it will help us to decide which pub would be quietest on a<br>
Thursday night. I've just had a thought actually and I can't believe it<br>
never occurred to me before. We could use 3345 on Parr St as a post LUG<br>
watering hole. It's got free wi-fi and everything. Not the cheapest bar in<br>
town but not extortionate either. There's also Studio 2 downstairs which is<br>
bigger and very nice. Not too far to walk from LSC. Just a couple of streets<br>
over.<br>
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:27:02 +0100<br>
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Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Bestbuy's Linux training<br>
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> shame the screenshots there are not available :(<br>
><br>
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Oh I hadn't looked at the actual link Andy posted. I was sent a link to a<br>
mirror of that thread complete with screenshots yesterday. They will only<br>
wind you up trust me, pure FUD, but here you go -<br>
<a href="http://quaoar.ww7.be/ms_fud_of_the_year/569458-microsoft-attack-linux-retail-level-probably.html" target="_blank">http://quaoar.ww7.be/ms_fud_of_the_year/569458-microsoft-attack-linux-retail-level-probably.html</a><br>
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Scroll down past all the blatant advertising at the top.<br>
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:35:37 +0100<br>
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Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?<br>
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<br>
This isnt a daytime activity :)<br>
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:43:44 +0100<br>
From: Andrew Williams <<a href="mailto:andy@tensixtyone.com">andy@tensixtyone.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?<br>
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> Oh god that's funny :D Nice one Andy. I'm not sure I could make it this<br>
> Saturday but that seems academic now as neither can anyone else. I'm off to<br>
> America next Friday for LinuxCon (any excuse to mention that), so next week<br>
> is out and probably the one after. If you can decide on a date let me know<br>
> and I'll do my best to get there :)<br>
><br>
> While I'm not against going out on a Saturday night (at all), I'm not<br>
> convinced it will help us to decide which pub would be quietest on a<br>
> Thursday night. I've just had a thought actually and I can't believe it<br>
> never occurred to me before. We could use 3345 on Parr St as a post LUG<br>
> watering hole. It's got free wi-fi and everything. Not the cheapest bar in<br>
> town but not extortionate either. There's also Studio 2 downstairs which is<br>
> bigger and very nice. Not too far to walk from LSC. Just a couple of streets<br>
> over.<br>
<br>
Good point, I think we'll need to pre-arrange as from what I remember<br>
3345 is a members club. Its simple and free to signup but it presents<br>
problems if we have non members turning up. I dunno, I know Geekup hold<br>
their meets there so I guess it'll be a case of mailing them.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Andrew Williams<br>
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