<div>Twofish was designed principally by Wagner and Ferguson.</div>
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<div>All he does it take other people's work and attaches his name to it. Where the work <em>is</em> his own, it usually sucks.</div>
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<div>Two cases in point; Blowfish is a horrible design and Solitaire had a straightforward bias.</div></div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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<div>Simon<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">2009/10/29 Tom Hall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thattommyhall@gmail.com">thattommyhall@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">A little unfair in my view, the guys book on crypto is a set text at<br>lots of universities and his Twofish algorithm was a serious contender<br>
for AES (we did a study of the candidates when I was at uni, great<br>module)<br><br>Suggest where good crypto guys are talking, I'll drive.<br><font color="#888888"><br>Tom<br></font>
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<div class="h5"><br><br>On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Simon Johnson <<a href="mailto:simon.johnson@gmail.com">simon.johnson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Schneier is a press whore.<br>><br>> Please don't got to this, you'll only stoke the guys ego.<br>
><br>> Please go and talk to a real crypto guy.<br>><br>> Cheers,<br>><br>> Simon<br>><br>> 2009/10/29 Andrew Williams <<a href="mailto:andy@tensixtyone.com">andy@tensixtyone.com</a>><br>>><br>
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>> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:16:27 +0000<br>>> Subject: [ORG-discuss] Come see Bruce Schneier talk in London<br>>><br>>> Bruce Schneier is coming to London in December and will be doing a<br>>> talk for ORG. Hope to meet more of the discuss crowd at the event.<br>
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>> start thinking about how to deal with it."<br>>><br>>> When? Doors open at 1830, Friday 4 December 2009<br>>> Where? St Albans Centre, 18 Brooke St, London, London EC1N 7RD (More info<br>>> here)<br>
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