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    Very close to the beaglboard but with real controls there's the
    Pandora handheld that runs Linux on a ARM processor.<br>
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    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openpandora.org/">http://openpandora.org/</a><br>
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    But it's still hard to get one :(<br>
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    On 10/08/2010 11:27 AM, Graeme Dyas wrote:
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      cite="mid:AANLkTi=XqPGwgRxu5PfNhidJN5TF8YDeAsDK8Y2mkXuK@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">&gt;From what I can remember&nbsp;it's not that simple. You
      can't just install the OS. You need some kind of&nbsp;boot-loader
      installed or you need a JTAG programmer. It would
      be&nbsp;possible&nbsp;to&nbsp;develop&nbsp;a&nbsp;universal&nbsp;boot loader but I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;see
      this happening any time soon. It would need some kind of standard
      bootloader/bios on all ARM Devices.&nbsp;
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          <div>If you are interested&nbsp;in seeing how to install&nbsp;Linux&nbsp;on a
            ARM processor I would check out the&nbsp;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://beagleboard.org/">http://beagleboard.org/</a>&nbsp;project.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On 7 October 2010 13:39, Sebastian
              <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:shop@open-t.co.uk">shop@open-t.co.uk</a>&gt;</span>
              wrote:<br>
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                Just a bit of an open topic - more for my general
                knowledge, if not for anything else :-)<br>
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                I was thinking about the fact that the market is being
                taken over by these iPad clones (ish) - and all of the
                ones I've seen seem to be based on some flavour of ARM
                processor. I was wondering if this would mean a new
                impetus for the various ARM Linux distributions out
                there. I'm aware that there has been continuous effort
                in this direction over the years - but the most
                significant ARM devices available for (sort of) mass
                consumption have been some hackable routers, and the
                SheevaPlug device. I'm not really aware about other
                stuff with ARM inside that you could just buy and
                install Linux on.<br>
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                Would people here think that we will see new effort
                directed towards hacking all these cheap(ish) ARM
                tablets and installing some proper Linux on them. I
                don't know much about hardware particularities for these
                devices - specially things like BIOS (or whatever ARM
                world tends to call it) - which might make it difficult
                or impossible to hack around on these. Or if this might
                mean that a generic ARM distribution couldn't pull it
                off - as each device might have esoteric ways of beeing
                rooted/jail-broken - which would fragment too much the
                development effort.<br>
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                In case I wasn't clear enough in my ramble :-) : are we
                going to see a situation, like in the x86 world, where
                one can just download an ARM distribution, pick up any
                ARM tablet, install it and get on with things - kind of
                some sort of universal compatibility? Again, I don't
                enough about hardware aspects of the ARM world - so I
                would like to know if I'm imagining the impossible.<br>
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                Any comments welcome,<br>
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                Sebastian<br>
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