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    Ubuntu solves the "how do I quit emacs" problem by just not
    installing it in the first place ;-)<br>
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    adrian@stratos:~$ emacs<br>
    The program 'emacs' can be found in the following packages:<br>
     * emacs23<br>
     * emacs23-nox<br>
     * e3<br>
     * emacs-snapshot<br>
     * emacs-snapshot-nox<br>
     * emacs23-lucid<br>
     * jove<br>
    Try: sudo apt-get install &lt;selected package&gt;<br>
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    Cheers,<br>
    <br>
    Adrian<br>
    <br>
    On 31/08/11 14:56, Bob Ham wrote:
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      <pre wrap="">rah@myrtle:~$ kill -9 emacs
bash: kill: emacs: arguments must be process or job IDs
rah@myrtle:~$ 

Tsk tsk.. just goes to show.. those who don't know what they're doing
use vim.

;-)


On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 14:15 +0100, Simon Johnson wrote:
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          <pre wrap="">vim
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?!



On 31 August 2011 14:03, Bob Ham <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rah@bash.sh">&lt;rah@bash.sh&gt;</a> wrote:
        Haha!  So true.  I think the issue of exiting the program
        might possibly
        be the biggest barrier to emacs adoption :-)  Don't worry
        though, I'll
        provide you with the appropriate incantation :-)
        
        
        On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 13:09 +0100, Dan Lynch wrote:
        &gt; I like the sound of the Emacs talk. I've never done much
        with it all
        &gt; these years. If you can tell me how to get out of it without
        rebooting
        &gt; that would be a good start hehe ;)
        &gt;
        &gt; Look forward to it,
        &gt;
        &gt; Dan
        &gt;
        &gt;
        &gt;
        &gt; On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Bob Ham <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rah@bash.sh">&lt;rah@bash.sh&gt;</a>
        wrote:
        &gt;         Yes, an IPv6 talk is still in the works.  Needs
        effort to
        &gt;         finish putting
        &gt;         together a proper talk on it though; I want to do
        the topic
        &gt;         justice.
        &gt;         Maybe in a couple of months :-)
        &gt;
        &gt;
        &gt;
        &gt;         On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 12:45 +0100, Stephen Watkin
        wrote:
        &gt;         &gt; You should do an Emacs / IPv6 double-bill!
        &gt;         &gt;
        &gt;         &gt; I know just enough about IPv4 to be dangerous but
        I never
        &gt;         learned
        &gt;         &gt; anything properly. Whenever I have a problem I
        usually just
        &gt;         hack at it
        &gt;         &gt; until it goes away and I'm fully aware that most
        of what I
        &gt;         know is
        &gt;         &gt; either out-of-date or just plain wrong. It'd be
        nice to
        &gt;         learn about the
        &gt;         &gt; next generation of technology properly for once!
        &gt;         &gt;
        &gt;         &gt; Ste
        &gt;         &gt;
        &gt;         &gt; On 31/08/11 12:30, Bob Ham wrote:
        &gt;         &gt; &gt; Hi all,
        &gt;         &gt; &gt;
        &gt;         &gt; &gt; Dan's email has caused me to note that there is
        scheduled
        &gt;         meeting next
        &gt;         &gt; &gt; week with no talk :-)  There is a guy, Tony, who
        comes to
        &gt;         meetings
        &gt;         &gt; &gt; sometimes and who offered to do a talk on Java
        3D; are you
        &gt;         here Tony?
        &gt;         &gt; &gt; If not, does anybody happen to have Tony's
        contact
        &gt;         details?
        &gt;         &gt; &gt;
        &gt;         &gt; &gt; If Tony's Java 3D talk doesn't happen, I was
        previously
        &gt;         instructed to
        &gt;         &gt; &gt; give a demonstration of Emacs so I'll do that.
         Unless
        &gt;         anyone else has a
        &gt;         &gt; &gt; talk they'd like to give?
        &gt;         &gt; &gt;
        &gt;         &gt; &gt; Also, does anybody want to give a talk a month
        from next
        &gt;         week?
        &gt;         &gt; &gt;
        &gt;         &gt; &gt; Bob
        &gt;         &gt;
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        &gt;         &gt;
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        &gt;         &gt;
        &gt;
        &gt;
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        &gt;         Bob Ham <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rah@bash.sh">&lt;rah@bash.sh&gt;</a>
        &gt;
        &gt;         for (;;) { ++pancakes; }
        &gt;
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