<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/13/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Richard Forster</b> <<a href="mailto:rick@forster.uklinux.net">rick@forster.uklinux.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
>> So, does anyone know how to kill unkillable processes and save me these<br>>> reboots?<br>><br>> In Terminal:<br>> pkill firefox-bin<br>pkill I didn't know about. How is it different from kill (with -9 etc if
<br>necessary) or killall?</blockquote><div><br>pkill is just the same as kill, but looks up the process by name. pgrep [name], its friend will show you the PIDs of running processes with that name.<br><br>pkill -9 works, just as kill -9
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">><br>> or<br>><br>> killall firefox-bin<br>And when killall doesn't work? That was the first thing I tried.
<br>Even kill -9 PID exits silently, indicating a success, but the process<br>continues to exist in the top listings. I've even caught myself trying<br>to kill non-existent processes just to check that the 'no process' error
<br>message appears. :-)</blockquote><div><br>That's umm... odd. So the firefox-bin process is unkillable? Even with -9? What does the ps -el line say for firefox-bin?<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
The disk unmounting issue appears in the shutdown messages. Fedora tries<br>a few times, fails, then I don't know exactly what happens but it<br>reboots. It's just like when you have a terminal open with the current
<br>directory inside a CD then you try to unmount the CD (except for the<br>rebooting obviously).</blockquote><div><br>I don't really know what could be going on here. All I know is that I don't have the problem with Ubuntu... :P
<br></div><br>Matthew.<br></div><br>