<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/13/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Richard Forster</b> <<a href="mailto:rick@forster.uklinux.net">rick@forster.uklinux.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Unless you use that thrice-cursed abomination known as Flash[1]. When it<br>goes it hang Firefox. Closing (well, killing) and restarting Firefox<br>leads to a nice dialog box telling me that Firefox is already running<br>
and that I should either close it down or reboot. I can't find a way to<br>close the invisible Firefox and end up rebooting.<br><br>So, does anyone know how to kill unkillable processes and save me these<br>reboots?</blockquote>
<div>In Terminal:<br>pkill firefox-bin<br><br>or<br><br>killall firefox-bin <br><br>Rebooting is very rarely necessary in Linux, in any case: <a href="http://matthewstechnologyblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-to-recover-ubuntulinux-pc.html">
http://matthewstechnologyblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-to-recover-ubuntulinux-pc.html</a><br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
To further annoy me, when shutting down the system can't unmount the<br>disk cleanly because some process won't take it's filthy paws off the<br>hard drive. Thank $KERNELHACKER for journalled filesystems.</blockquote>
<div><br>Do the logs maybe show which process it is? Where do you see that it can't unmount the disk?<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
[1] Yes, I know you can redefine beta software as 'that which forces<br>reboots' and include Flash in the list.<br><br><br>Keith Edmunds wrote:<br>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:32:35 +0100, <a href="mailto:ianpascoe@btinternet.com">
ianpascoe@btinternet.com</a> said:<br>><br>>> I'm more than happy to be corrected!<br>><br>> Well, if that's the perception then that is the perception. FWIW, I don't<br>> believe Linux needs rebooting on a regular basis - as others have
<br>> commented, reboots are associated with power outages, hardware upgrades or<br>> kernel upgrades. There's probably some case somewhere where Linux would<br>> benefit from a reboot, but I've yet to see it (outside of beta software).
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