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<P>Hi,</P>
<P> I can make it back most weekends if you fancy planning a meeting, and I am about on the the 21st. If there is interest we could plan a get together for that day at the University or on a Saturday maybe then TJ could make it.</P>
<P>Tom<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:15:11 +0000
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<DIV></DIV>> 1. Re: Re: Mandrake 9.2 installation problem (and meetings/UWB)
<DIV></DIV>> (Rhys Jones)
<DIV></DIV>> 2. Re: Re: Mandrake 9.2 installation problem (and meetings/UWB)
<DIV></DIV>> (Kevin Donnelly)
<DIV></DIV>> 3. Re: Firefox & Mandrake installation (Kevin Donnelly)
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<DIV></DIV>>Message: 1
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:11:03 +0000
<DIV></DIV>>From: Rhys Jones <rhys.j.jones@gmail.com>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Menai-LUG] Re: Mandrake 9.2 installation problem (and
<DIV></DIV>> meetings/UWB)
<DIV></DIV>>To: menai@mailman.lug.org.uk
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<DIV></DIV>>On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:00:12 +0000, Kevin Donnelly <kevin@dotmon.com> wrote:
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > > Meetings/UWB:
<DIV></DIV>> > > BTW, when do you guys meet? I'd be interested in coming some time.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > Good question. I gave up on meetings last year, and a couple of the most
<DIV></DIV>> > faithful attendees (TJ, Tom) are now at gainful employment in the South of
<DIV></DIV>> > England. But we probably should have one ... some time ...
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I've recently subscribed to this list because I've started a job at
<DIV></DIV>>University of Wales Bangor, on quite an interesting project to develop
<DIV></DIV>>free speech technology for Welsh.
<DIV></DIV>>http://www.bangor.ac.uk/ar/cb/wispr.php
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Aside from that, I'm still involved with the Welsh GNOME translation
<DIV></DIV>>efforts, and I know Kevin through those channels (haia Kevin). Though
<DIV></DIV>>I work largely remotely for now, I will be in the area for one week a
<DIV></DIV>>month, and would be delighted to meet you all.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Hwyl am y tro
<DIV></DIV>>Rhys
<DIV></DIV>>--
<DIV></DIV>>http://cysyllta.blogspot.com/
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<DIV></DIV>>Message: 2
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:05:02 +0000
<DIV></DIV>>From: Kevin Donnelly <kevin@dotmon.com>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Menai-LUG] Re: Mandrake 9.2 installation problem (and
<DIV></DIV>> meetings/UWB)
<DIV></DIV>>To: menai@mailman.lug.org.uk
<DIV></DIV>>Message-ID: <200503091105.02382.kevin@dotmon.com>
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<DIV></DIV>>On Tuesday 08 Mar 2005 22:11, Rhys Jones wrote:
<DIV></DIV>> > I've recently subscribed to this list because I've started a job at
<DIV></DIV>> > University of Wales Bangor, on quite an interesting project to develop
<DIV></DIV>> > free speech technology for Welsh.
<DIV></DIV>> > http://www.bangor.ac.uk/ar/cb/wispr.php
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Good luck, and welcome! KDE has just added a TTS app:
<DIV></DIV>>http://accessibility.kde.org/developer/kttsd/index.php
<DIV></DIV>>The main issue in developing that for Welsh would be setting up the phoneme
<DIV></DIV>>rules and recording the voices.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > Aside from that, I'm still involved with the Welsh GNOME translation
<DIV></DIV>> > efforts, and I know Kevin through those channels (haia Kevin). Though
<DIV></DIV>> > I work largely remotely for now, I will be in the area for one week a
<DIV></DIV>> > month, and would be delighted to meet you all.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Perhaps we should try and organise a meeting if we could decide on a place and
<DIV></DIV>>time. Joe, others? Any views?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>--
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<DIV></DIV>>Pob hwyl / Best wishes
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Kevin Donnelly
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<DIV></DIV>>www.kyfieithu.co.uk - Meddalwedd Rhydd yn Gymraeg
<DIV></DIV>>www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD!
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<DIV></DIV>>Message: 3
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:55:13 +0000
<DIV></DIV>>From: Kevin Donnelly <kevin@dotmon.com>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Menai-LUG] Firefox & Mandrake installation
<DIV></DIV>>To: menai@mailman.lug.org.uk
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<DIV></DIV>>On Friday 04 Mar 2005 08:46, Llywelyn Owen wrote:
<DIV></DIV>> > I've been away working for a few days so hope you don't think I had lost
<DIV></DIV>> > interest by not replying. My progress so far is thus, I have Mandrake 9.0
<DIV></DIV>> > up and running and seeing the internet but not other computers. I'm hoping
<DIV></DIV>> > to have a play around with it this weekend and maybe download other
<DIV></DIV>> > suggested distros such as Xandros, Debian etc to play with those.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>If I were you, I would pick one distro, and stick with it for 6 months,
<DIV></DIV>>learning about how it does things. Only then would I start comparing other
<DIV></DIV>>distros - as it stands, you have no criteria to compare them against, and
<DIV></DIV>>looking at several will (a) be confusing, and (b) take away time from
<DIV></DIV>>actually using Linux, as opposed to looking at it.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>This month's Linux Magazine had a Ubuntu DVD on the front, and this month's
<DIV></DIV>>Linux Format had a SUSE 9.2 on the front. Both of these are more recent than
<DIV></DIV>>Mandrake 9, and I would urge you to move up to the most recent distro you can
<DIV></DIV>>get. If you want to stick to Mandrake, 10.1 was on a covermount at
<DIV></DIV>>Christmas, and if you like I can send you that.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Debian is good, but you do need to spend a bit of time finding your way around
<DIV></DIV>>it, and it can sometimes require a bit of low-level work. Xandros (which I
<DIV></DIV>>have never managed to get installed, since it likes none of my video cards)
<DIV></DIV>>looks easy to get to grips with, especially for a Windows refugee, but you
<DIV></DIV>>will pay for that later - much of the KDE desktop has been specially hacked,
<DIV></DIV>>and it may not work properly with non-Xandros stuff.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > Other evaluation distros I've used give me instant access to Windows
<DIV></DIV>> > networks, how do I set this up on Mandrake? I think I have Samba installed,
<DIV></DIV>> > control panel has a LISa setup option under LAN browsing which suggests in
<DIV></DIV>> > a dialogue that Samba or an equivalent is running. I usually try to keep
<DIV></DIV>> > 192.168.0.1-10 (255.255.255.0) available for house computers/network
<DIV></DIV>> > printer/adsl router(with hardware firewall). After running the Guided LISa
<DIV></DIV>> > setup nothing seems to have changed/appeared that would give me access.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I don't really have any MicrosoftWindows machines I need to connect to any
<DIV></DIV>>more, but when I did (several years ago now) I could never get LISa to work -
<DIV></DIV>>all it did was eat CPU cycles until you killed it. I eventually did get
<DIV></DIV>>browsing working with LinNeighbourhood, but I'm not sure that that's being
<DIV></DIV>>developed any more.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Paul Finegan posted a rather nice little howto for Samba on the Northwales LUG
<DIV></DIV>>list:
<DIV></DIV>>http://www.fineogs.co.uk/linux_samba_setup.pdf
<DIV></DIV>>You might go through that just to ensure your setup is OK. Also, do not
<DIV></DIV>>underestimate the fragility of MicrosoftWindows networking. One of my most
<DIV></DIV>>embarassing moments was at a MenaiLUG meeting two years ago, where I was
<DIV></DIV>>demonstrating Samba. I set it all up here, tested MicrosoftWindows->Linux,
<DIV></DIV>>and vice versa, and all was working fine. I took the machines in, set them
<DIV></DIV>>up, and MicrosoftWindows took a hissy fit and wouldn't work - I could ping
<DIV></DIV>>the MicrosoftWindows box, and vice versa, but higher-level networking was
<DIV></DIV>>just kaputt. This is one of the issues with MicrosoftWindows networking in
<DIV></DIV>>an office environment - it will sometimes cease working for inscrutable
<DIV></DIV>>reasons.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Mind you, if all you need to do is transfer files to and from the
<DIV></DIV>>MicrosoftWindows box, you could use FTP, or set up an SSH server on
<DIV></DIV>>MicrosoftWindows (eg http://pigtail.net/LRP/printsrv/cygwin-sshd.html).
<DIV></DIV>>Recent KDE releases have the fish protocol built in, whereby all you do is
<DIV></DIV>>open Konqueror, type fish://<ip address> into the location bar, enter your
<DIV></DIV>>SSH password, and there you are. (Remember that writing to an NTFS drive is
<DIV></DIV>>not recommended as yet - it would be better to use a FAT partition on the
<DIV></DIV>>MicrosoftWindows box as a staging area.)
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > As an aside the CymruX evaluation CD is great at accessing data on Windows
<DIV></DIV>> > partitions when they go belly-up and is now my sole emergency boot disk for
<DIV></DIV>> > windows. I've been asked for copies simply for this reason alone...
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Great! There is a new version half-done, but it may be discarded in favour of
<DIV></DIV>>one based on SUSE instead of Knoppix. (See what happens when your Debian
<DIV></DIV>>influence is no longer around, Thorben?)
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > As for Firefox and browsers in general, I use sync2it.com to automatically
<DIV></DIV>> > synchronise/store/backup bookmarks via the web, and have done so for a few
<DIV></DIV>> > years. The latest addon works well with IE and Firefox but only on Windows.
<DIV></DIV>> > Does anyone know of a product (doesn't have to be free) which will do the
<DIV></DIV>> > same between Linux and Windows Firefox installations?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I'm afraid I don't (though others may). The big thing I have about bookmarks
<DIV></DIV>>is that they don't really allow you to give any context, so if you have 10
<DIV></DIV>>pages from The Register, for instance, you can't usually guess what they're
<DIV></DIV>>individually about unless you visit them. I therefore tend to use a wiki or
<DIV></DIV>>something similar, preferably on one machine in the LAN or on a website,
<DIV></DIV>>mainly because it can be accessed from anywhere, and I can add a snippet from
<DIV></DIV>>the page itself to give some idea of content. But that is not as "click and
<DIV></DIV>>go" as you want, I suspect.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>--
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Pob hwyl / Best wishes
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Kevin Donnelly
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