I think Ubuntu 8.10 is absolutely amazing, a great improvement over the previous Ubuntu releases (which were already amazing). I have tried out LOADS of distros, but always keep going back to Ubuntu - there just is nothing like it, other distros just seem to be playing catch-up, basically. The NetworkManager is greatly improved (3G modem support, etc.), the way the shutdown button is integrated with the user switching button, guest account login, make live usb disk option, not to mention the legendary darkroom theme.<br>
<br>If you're gonna use kde, go all the way and use opensuse/windows... ;-)<br><br>Robin<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Matthew Tompsett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthewbpt@gmail.com">matthewbpt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I recently upgraded from Hardy to 8.10 and I think it has many improvements over the last release, finally my laptop can suspend, my wireless adapter also now works out of the box (using the new wl broadcom driver) which didn't work at all before without ndiswrapper. The network manager also seems to work better. There's nothing particularly exciting in the release as compared to the last one, but I still thing it's a pretty good release, with many small improvements over Hardy and updates to the old packages. I haven't run into any problems with it at all. Also this release includes the MID and UMPC versions which I tested out and are actually pretty cool.<br>
<br>Matt<br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/11/5 Steve Caddy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:steve.m.caddy@ntlworld.com" target="_blank">steve.m.caddy@ntlworld.com</a>></span><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
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<div>tony atkins wrote:<br>
> just had the misfortune of installing the unimaginative - dull - boring -<br>
> call it what you will Ubuntu 8.10<br>
<br>
</div>Would you like to say a bit more why it's "dull" and "boring", and why you<br>
feel the need to express such negative feelings about it?<br>
<br>
I wouldn't expect any version upgrades to be particularly exciting, just a<br>
load of newer versions of components tested and packaged together. Ubuntu 8.10<br>
does exactly this. Remember that 8.04 released with a beta version of Firefox<br>
3. For people who want to install Linux without the need to upgrade their web<br>
browser before doing anything else, 8.10 is generally a good thing. There's no<br>
point distributing Linux with 6 month old components, and leaving the user to<br>
upgrade things to current versions.<br>
<br>
I'm not saying there aren't problems... for anyone who had a launch button on<br>
their Gnome bars that referenced $HOME will have discovered that it isn't<br>
referenced correctly any more (notably impacting on Wine, which installs with<br>
a "Browse C:" launcher, which worked under 8.04, and breaks under 8.10 until<br>
you install the patch, or fix it yourself). But these problems aren't<br>
necessarily the fault of Ubuntu... more likely down to more recent releases of<br>
Gnome, which seems to have some "careless" bugs in it, but nothing that a few<br>
minor patches won't fix, and just about everyone is used to downloading and<br>
installing upgrade patches these days.<br>
<br>
When all is said and done, 8.10 isn't a long term support release, it's just a<br>
regular update, it isn't anything to write home about, and it's faults aren't<br>
that serious. To go on to say that anyone who says this is a good thing<br>
deserves community service is silly. What did you expect? The Moon on a stick?<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
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