The other half has the Desire and rates it well above any phone she's ever had. I recently upgraded from the Hero to the Desire HD, and that too is an immense phone.<div><br></div><div>I tried the Desire Z in the shop, but found that my thumb kept clipping the bezel when heading for the top row of keys. That said, I've got pretty enormous hands, so YMMV.</div>
<div><br></div><div>On the geek factor, I'm running a custom ROM built from public sources (by someone more knowledgeable, I hasten to add), and a separate custom kernel with recent Linux upstream changes and various Android- and handset-specific tweaks and fixes applied.</div>
<div><br></div><div>HTH,</div><div><br></div><div>Dan</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 May 2011 17:00, Richard Hodgson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rich@dearinternet.com">rich@dearinternet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><p>I got a T-Mobile G1 a few years back thinking I wanted a physical keyboard, and found the onscreen keyboard so good after a few days that I barely used it, meaning that my phone had a lot of wasted bulk.</p>
<p>I've got an HTC Desire now, with CyanogenMod installed, so I get Android 2.3.4, and it's awesome. Flash is currently up to 10.3 for all those who are interested.</p><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 21, 2011 8:25 AM, "Benjamin Crowe" <<a href="mailto:sneblot@gmail.com" target="_blank">sneblot@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> ts such a shame about the Palm Pre it looked like such a lovely phone when<br>
> it was first shown to the world. What a shame that it would fail so<br>> miserably. To be honest its looking more and more like I'm gong to be going<br>> for the Desire possibly the Desire Z with the physical keyboard, just so I<br>
> have the option of both.<br>> <br>> <br>> Ben<br>> <br>> On 20 May 2011 23:02, Christopher Joice <<a href="mailto:christopher@c25.eu" target="_blank">christopher@c25.eu</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>>> I'm a fan of my wildfire, which I've rooted and run Android 2.3 on in the<br>
>> form of Cyanogen Mod (<a href="http://www.cyanogenmod.com/" target="_blank">http://www.cyanogenmod.com/</a>)<br>>> I'd look out for the upgraded versions though, the screen res is a little<br>>> too low for my liking and the processor could use a bit more poke.<br>
>><br>>> Apps, built in Gmail client is pretty good, there are many IM clients for<br>>> Jabber, IRC, MSN, Yahoo etc. Personally I run a Jabber server with gateways<br>>> and just use xabber on my phone.<br>
>><br>>> I also agree with the physical keyboard, I hate the on screen keyboard but<br>>> love the power of the phone and apps. I tried a (3rd hand) palm pre for over<br>>> a week despite hopeless battery and weak software just because the keyboard<br>
>> was so good.<br>>><br>>> On 20 May 2011 19:04, Eben <<a href="mailto:ctrl.alt.nerd@googlemail.com" target="_blank">ctrl.alt.nerd@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Nuh, as long as it has android 2.2 it has flash. I think. Definitely<br>
>>> don't hold me to that, but I know for sure they have flash 10.1<br>>>><br>>>> IRC, emails and twitter are very minimal requirements ;) I wouldn't worry<br>>>> too much about this on any platform<br>
>>><br>>>> ~Eben<br>>>><br>>>> On Fri, 20 May 2011, 17:36:17 BST, Benjamin Crowe <<a href="mailto:sneblot@gmail.com" target="_blank">sneblot@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> > I don't really mind about a physical keyboard as I have a full qwerty<br>>>> > keyboard on my current phone (which isn't touch screen) so I'm used to<br>>>> > the small buttons, also friends of mine have iPods and iPhones so I'm<br>
>>> > quite used to on screen keyboards as well. What I really want from a<br>>>> > phone is for the OS to be open source, provide a really good web<br>>>> > experience and have apps which allow me to get on and do things like<br>
>>> > IRC, email, twitter and the like. Is it true that the android phones<br>>>> > still don't support flash?<br>>>> ><br>>>> > Ben<br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>
>>> > On 20 May 2011 15:30, Camilo Mesias <<a href="mailto:camilo@mesias.co.uk" target="_blank">camilo@mesias.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>>>> ><br>>>> > > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Mat Booth <<a href="mailto:mbooth@fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">mbooth@fedoraproject.org</a>><br>
>>><br>>>> > > wrote:<br>>>> > > > You can't even easily tell which key your<br>>>> > > > finger is over when the keyboard is that small, whereas the<br>>>> on-screen<br>
>>> > > > keyboard will show you a larger picture of the key you pressed so if<br>>>><br>>>> > > > you miss you can move your finger before releasing it<br>>>> > ><br>
>>> > > While you can't quite touch type on a phone keyboard you can usually<br>>>> > > use two fingers (or thumbs) to good effect. Yes the layout isn't quite<br>>>><br>>>> > > the same as a desktop keyboard but once you get used to it, I find<br>
>>> > > it's still faster than any on screen keyboard. Having to peck out one<br>>>> > > character at a time is enough to put me off using on screen keyboards<br>>>> > > altogether. Although I realise it's a bit subjective, iPad users seem<br>
>>> > > to manage with their flat touchscreen 'keyboards' just fine...<br>>>> > ><br>>>> > > -Cam<br>>>> > ><br>>>> > > _______________________________________________<br>
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