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    <p>Well clearly that's what you get for not inviting them to the
      wedding.</p>
    <p>It seems a little steep but adjusting for inflation the cost
      isn't that far out of what I'd expect.  The documentation
      requirements on the other hand seem a bit OTT.  That's more than I
      was (relatively) recently asked for for my SC clearance.</p>
    <p>It appears that the Home Office learnt a lesson when they allowed
      me to immigrate and they are determined not to let that happen
      again. :)<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/09/16 17:58, Daryl via Nottingham
      wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">The rules have been repeatedly tightened up. The
        financial and proof of relationship requirements are very
        stringent now. The Conservatives are to blame for a lot of this.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">I have to supply 12 months bank statements and
        payslips. In addition to many bills, mortgage statement, council
        tax bill, children's birth certificates, my divorce papers. In
        addition a letter from my employer. I have paid £105 for a
        housing report despite my owned home being a new 4 build that
        ONLY I live in full time.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">On top of that is flight tickets, a relationship
        timeline and around 50 photos of us. Oh, and greeting cards,
        telephone and IM logs. Yes...and proof of wedding including
        photos and bills.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">A copy of my passport and a couple of things I am
        sure I have forgotten.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">The whole thing is costing me £2500 which lasts 2.5
        years and then I need to pay another £1800 to renew for another
        2.5 years until she can apply to stay permanently.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Who would have thought this was my right as a British
        citizen?</p>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 7 Sep 2016 16:36, "Fluf Lagomorph
          via Nottingham" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:nottingham@mailman.lug.org.uk">nottingham@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>>
          wrote:<br type="attribution">
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
            Indeed, unless the rules have changed quite substantially
            since we did the same back in 2000 (and we've also just
            celebrated 16 years of being married), then you've probably
            sent some serious overkill that will almost certainly never
            be fully... appreciated?<br>
            <br>
            We used (paper!) letters we'd sent to one another along with
            plane ticket stubs and photographs of us together, and that
            was perfectly sufficient.<br>
            <br>
            (That and there was no way in hell I was sending them copies
            of our ICQ logs.  If they want the makings of trashy romance
            novels then they can bloody well write their own!)<br>
            <br>
            Best wishes from another US/UK couple,<br>
            <br>
            -Stef (& Andy)<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On Wed, 7 Sep 2016, Martin via Nottingham wrote:<br>
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              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              Deary deary me... That's more like a Petition!<br>
              <br>
              Hope your great work is suitably protected under the GPL
              or other so<br>
              that others may learn and enhance and develop the Human
              race onwards!<br>
              <br>
              :-P<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              More seriously... That required divulgement is rather
              seriously intrusive.<br>
              <br>
              Cue XKCD:<br>
              <br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://xkcd.com/257/"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://xkcd.com/257/</a><br>
              <br>
              Hope you've run it through a Barbara Woodhouse BBC
              bleep-box!!<br>
              <br>
              (Cue all immigration coming to a standstill as the
              officials suffer a<br>
              melee of giggles huddled around Daryl's IM memories...)<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Good luck for your both :-)<br>
              <br>
              Partying soon, yeah! ;-)<br>
              <br>
              Cheers,<br>
              Martin<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              (Aside: Was not the use of Facebook a clever ploy to
              subvert the USA at<br>
              their own game? ... A sort of reverse-cyber 'probe'??...
              ;-) )<br>
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              On 07/09/16 07:40, Daryl via Nottingham wrote:<br>
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                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                It was Facebook messenger - and I appreciate that Martin
                would not<br>
                approve! However, in some ways I am glad. The fact that
                FB store so much<br>
                information was useful in this case. Without this
                history things would<br>
                have been much more difficult to prove.<br>
                <br>
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                On 7 Sep 2016 07:28, "Neal Ponton via Nottingham"<br>
                <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:nottingham@mailman.lug.org.uk"
                  target="_blank">nottingham@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>
                <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:nottingham@mailman.lug.org.uk"
                  target="_blank">nottingham@mailman.lug<wbr>.org.uk</a>>><br>
                wrote:<br>
                <br>
                    I had misread that. I see now that you already did
                it. Doh!<br>
                <br>
                    I hope you proof-read it before sending in!<br>
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                    7. Sep 2016 07:23 by <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:nottingham@mailman.lug.org.uk"
                  target="_blank">nottingham@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>
                    <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:nottingham@mailman.lug.org.uk"
                  target="_blank">nottingham@mailman.lug<wbr>.org.uk</a>>:<br>
                <br>
                        Some in the group may know I spend a lot of time
                on my phone<br>
                        talking to my American girlfriend (I try at the
                socials to not<br>
                        be rude and actually put my phone down). I
                needed to create a<br>
                        PDF of my IM history for immigration reasons.<br>
                <br>
                        3221 pages of A4. I'm rather impressed with
                that!<br>
                <br>
                        I should point out that I put it on a USB stick
                and did NOT<br>
                        print it out!<br>
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