<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">To be fair to Will, the subject does say "PHP Contract" roles and he is a subscriber - he's been on the least since at least April 2007 when he contributed to a discussion about AJAX use on large sites. Personally, I don't think there is anything to worry about at the moment, the list is still low volume and job postings from recruiters are infrequent and relevant. To do anything seems like a needless added level of bureaucracy to deal with a problem that is hardly significant.<div><br></div><div>Alex</div><div><br><div><div><div>On 29 Jan 2009, at 10:17, Andy Cowan wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">How about restricting posts to the list to subscribers only, and removing anyone from a recruitment agency?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I’m not advocating preventing people who are genuine list users advertising their own jobs available or their own availability even, just trying to keep agencies off the list.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">This morning’s job post doesn’t mention PHP. Or any skills required.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">A.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0cm; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 4pt; "><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>sukh virdee<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>29 January 2009 10:14<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:phpwm@mailman.lug.org.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">phpwm@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Phpwm] OT - PHP Contract roles in Walsall<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Andy,<br>it's been like this for ages, question is, what can you do eh?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>I find the group very interesting and educational and choose to just ignore the job posts!<br><br>Regards,<br>Sukh<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" id="stopSpelling"></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:andy@w4.co.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">andy@w4.co.uk</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:phpwm@mailman.lug.org.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">phpwm@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:07:20 +0000<br>Subject: Re: [Phpwm] OT - PHP Contract roles in Walsall<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hi All</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Are we happy with pimps invading our space with off-topic job postings? Surely if we allow this it’s just a matter of time before they just add the mailing list address to their database and we see every job they’re trying to hawk around?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">A.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: windowtext; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0cm; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 4pt; "><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: windowtext; border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Will Fraser<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>29 January 2009 09:11<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:phpwm@mailman.lug.org.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">phpwm@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Phpwm] OT - PHP Contract roles in Walsall</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 100%; "><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding-top: 3.75pt; padding-right: 3.75pt; padding-bottom: 3.75pt; padding-left: 3.75pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Hello,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">If you’re not looking for work at the moment then please ignore this! If you are then I have two three month contract positions based in Walsall, one mid-weight and one more senior. If you are interested then please contact me on 0207 367 4408, or<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wfraser@rethink-recruitment.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">wfraser@rethink-recruitment.com</a>, and I will be able to tell you about the roles in more detail.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Will.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></td></tr><tr><td width="1440" valign="top" style="width: 1080pt; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: windowtext; border-top-width: 6pt; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: white; padding-top: 3.75pt; padding-right: 3.75pt; padding-bottom: 3.75pt; padding-left: 3.75pt; background-attachment: scroll; background-position: 0% 0%; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; letter-spacing: 1pt; ">Will Fraser</span></strong><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="color: black; ">Consultant<br></span><span style="color: red; ">Tel: 020 7367 4408</span><span style="color: black; "><br></span><span style="color: red; ">Fax:<br>07786 162571</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: red; "><br><br></span><b><br></b><a href="http://www.rethink-recruitment.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.rethink-recruitment.com</a><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "></span><o:p></o:p></div></td><td width="45%" style="width: 45%; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: windowtext; border-top-width: 6pt; padding-top: 3.75pt; padding-right: 3.75pt; padding-bottom: 3.75pt; padding-left: 3.75pt; "><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" align="right"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding-top: 0.75pt; padding-right: 0.75pt; padding-bottom: 0.75pt; padding-left: 0.75pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><br><span><image001.jpg></span></span><o:p></o:p></div></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding-top: 0.75pt; padding-right: 0.75pt; padding-bottom: 0.75pt; padding-left: 0.75pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: gray; ">52-54 Southwark Street<br>London<br>SE1 1UN<br><br>Company Registration: 6182896<br>Registered Office: 25 Cross Street, Manchester. 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