That is the exact point that is trying to be made. Cross-platform is the ultimate goal, however M$ do have a very unfortunate history of attempting to hijack these kind of technologies and running them to the ground while under the guise of fully supporting them.<br>
<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish</a> for those who haven't read up much on the tactic. And in the interest of impartiality, I'm saying this from my current position as the developer for a .NET website :)<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/3/6 Andy Cowan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andy@w4.co.uk">andy@w4.co.uk</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
You seem to misunderstand the point I'm making - I want PHP to continue to be usable *cross platform* - i.e. I can deploy on whatever server OS I choose for a project - Windows, Linux, or OS X, whatever suits the project and the client. I don't want to be forced to to write code that is specific to a particular vendor's flavour of PHP and then be stuck with their server platform.<br>
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The thread is about M$ making it more difficult for us to keep a choice of platforms, not bashing M$ for developing a rubbish web server. I for one am concerned that they are trying to hijack PHP to try and force me to buy their servers.<br>
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And while we're at it, without trying to start a religious war, the goalposts in our space (i.e. web servers, scripting languages, web databases, server operating systems) weren't set by M$ or Apple. They were set by BSDi, FreeBSD and later Linux. Apache, PHP and MySQL. M$ were late to the party, and when they arrived, they only brought cheap lager when everyone else had brought champagne. They're catching up now, which is good - as long as they don't end up dictating how we write code and where we can deploy it.<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:phpwm-">phpwm-</a><br>
> <a href="mailto:bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk">bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>] On Behalf Of BinaryKitten<br>
> Sent: 06 March 2009 12:05<br>
> To: West Midlands PHP User Group<br>
> Subject: Re: [Phpwm] too much M$ bashing<br>
><br>
> I still prefer Apache over IIS but again when it boils down to it, it's<br>
> becoming more of a "preference" rather than a mandatory "Choice".<br>
> The keynote at phpuk 2009 was all about how the further we go along,<br>
> the<br>
> only difference between whether a piece of software lives or dies will<br>
> be down to it's usability. If IIS remained the way it was, extremely<br>
> difficult to configure properly etc, then it wouldn't have survived.<br>
> Microsoft, though many of us hate to be reminded of this, along with<br>
> Apple set the goal posts a lot of the time for everyone else to beat,<br>
> and yes .. a lot of the time those goal posts are beaten and left<br>
> behind<br>
> .. but all that does is just set a goal post for Microsoft and Apple to<br>
> improve or die.<br>
><br>
> As J rightly said, having both will only improve your skill set. Which<br>
> is never a bad thing.<br>
><br>
> Kat<br>
><br>
> Jujhar Singh wrote:<br>
> > Whilst linux is my preferred deployment platform; having the option<br>
> of<br>
> > running a stable PHP environment on Windows & IIS is very useful.<br>
> I'm<br>
> > sure all you have come across or will come across scenarios with<br>
> your<br>
> > customers where you can't introduce a Fedora box and your app has to<br>
> run<br>
> > on Windows and talk to SQL server.<br>
> ><br>
> > This is the case at my current workplace and I must say that PHP<br>
> 5.2.6<br>
> > runs pretty well on IIS 6. I can't wait till a release version of<br>
> 5.3<br>
> > comes out which has been compiler optimised for windows.<br>
> ><br>
> > Having both options under your belt will only make you more<br>
> desirable to<br>
> > companies looking for solutions to fit in with their existing<br>
> systems.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards<br>
> ><br>
> > J<br>
> ><br>
> > Jujhar Singh<br>
> > Medilink WM<br>
><br>
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