That is consistent with the established M$ EEE strategies, yes. This is why Open Source is part-programming, part-political.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/3/6 Andy Cowan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andy@w4.co.uk">andy@w4.co.uk</a>></span><br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">But isn’t it likely that the ‘open source’ bits that Microsoft
contribute will just be wrappers onto Windows APIs – like MSSQL, Word, Excel
etc? This would mean that the Linux/Max developer wouldn’t be able to port them
to Linux as the DLLs won’t exist. So the Windows version of PHP will just
diverge away from the other platforms... before you know it, the tool
developers will say it’s not worth supporting ‘minority’ platforms like Linux
and Mac, and PHP is effectively Windows only.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">And currently I’m running some live sites using PHP/Apache on
windows. Is it not likely that the new versions of PHP on Win will be tied to
IIS?</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk" target="_blank">phpwm-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Tipping<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 March 2009 10:55<div class="im"><br>
<b>To:</b> West Midlands PHP User Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Phpwm] wysiwig editor</div></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">The SQL server driver is currently for
windows php only.<br>
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The issue here is that Microsoft are only going to write code that runs on
Windows. It will need to be ported to run with the other versions of PHP so it
will take a Linux developer to convert the Windows code to Linux. In the case
of the MSSQL server driver I can’t see many Linux developers seeing the need so
maybe it won’t happen. PHP is part of their “open source technology centre” so
I guess the code is all available to the community. <br>
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PHP 5.3 is the first version that Microsoft have been involved with and they
have had to rewrite a large part of it as the source code was lost back in
PHPv3 and prior to 5.3 only 3 people know how to build PHP on windows which is
why it was always late being released. They showed benchmarks between the PHP
5.2 and 5.3 on windows and the difference was pretty impressive.<br>
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On 6/3/09 10:22, "Andy Cowan" <<a href="mailto:andy@w4.co.uk" target="_blank">andy@w4.co.uk</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;">Not just a pinch of salt – am I the only
one that finds this a bit worrying?<br>
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The post also included the line “</span><span style="font-size: 9pt;">(but possibly only if the windows version
of PHP)” – one of the best things about PHP so far is its cross platform
portability, and it would be typical of them to start making the windows
flavour of PHP the only real alternative, whilst the other platforms remain as
poor cousins. At the moment, we develop on Windows and Mac and deploy to Linux,
without any trouble at all. <br>
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I have no evidence of this – I wasn’t at PHP London, anyone that was there able
to reassure me? Or do I need to dig out that Ruby book? (only kidding!)<br>
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A.<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Lovell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 March 2009 10:15<br>
<b>To:</b> West Midlands PHP User Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Phpwm] wysiwig editor<br>
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> “Microsoft are taking PHP very seriously and if you have any thoughts,
email them and they will listen” or so the bloke says.<br>
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Mmm, I'll take that with a pinch of salt. It may have been a good few years
since we had a new Halloween document but that doesn't mean they've changed
their tune.</span></p>
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