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<DIV><SPAN class=101572807-08072009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dave,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101572807-08072009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks
for the response. I appreciate your feedback and will make sure that you are not
receiving any details/being contacted by other agents here.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=101572807-08072009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
apologise if you feel that I have been pushy that was not my intention. That
said most of my business over the last 10 years has come from organisations that
didnt want to use agencies initially. I just wanted to put myself in a position
if for whatever reason your own methods fail.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=101572807-08072009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If
anyone has any questions for me then im on 0121 6075858.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=101572807-08072009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Karl.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Dave Holmes
[mailto:dave@neteffekt.co.uk] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 08 July 2009
08:12<BR><B>To:</B> Lightfoot, Karl; West Midlands PHP User
Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: PHP roles at Neteffekt<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT
color=#000000>Firstly I have posted this to the PHPWM group as well as I would
be interested if the other members are experiencing the same hassle - the list
is a professional / social network for like minded professionals not a
tool for recruitment agencies that said relevant job postings are welcome and
valuable to a proportion of the list...... HOWEVER<BR></FONT>
<DIV class=moz-signature><FONT color=#000000><BR><BR>Karl, <BR><BR>Why have
you bothered responding this - which part of "i don't want to wast your
time or my time" is ambiguous. And I thought the phrase "we do not under any
circumstances use recruitment agencies" was precise and straight to the point.
<BR><BR>I don't mind the fact that you used the PHPWM list to identify
potential companies to place your clients and I certainly don't mind you
contacting us about it - I do however object to pushy salesmen who will not
take a polite no for an answer. <BR><BR>You have contacted our reception by
phone for our representative to politely said no thank you having confirmed
directly with me first. Following this you emailed me direct, again I don't
mind the persistence as it only takes a moment to respond to the
enquiry.<BR><BR>You then try and engage me in a conversation about recruitment
processes and how to go about it but I think we are smart enough to think of
plan b,c,d,e... if plan a fails. Then to top all of this off I get an
automated data audit email from your oracle system to tell me I'm on your
systems and these are your data protections rules and regulations - <I>great
so I'm now going to get harassed by all the other agents at computer futures.
</I><BR><BR>1. Please try to understand - as I can not make it any plainer
than my original response<BR><BR>Karl, <BR><BR>Thanks but placing a call would
be a waste of both your time and my time, we do not under any circumstances
use recruitment agencies. <BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR>2. Remove any reference to me or
my company from your recruitment database<BR><BR>Dave</FONT>
<BR></DIV><BR><BR>Lightfoot, Karl wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN class=848404811-07072009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dave,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=848404811-07072009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks for the quick response- I know that Adi generally uses
adverts- what would happen if that doesnt work?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=848404811-07072009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=848404811-07072009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Karl.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Dave Holmes
[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:dave@neteffekt.co.uk">mailto:dave@neteffekt.co.uk</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> 07 July 2009 12:38<BR><B>To:</B> Lightfoot,
Karl<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: PHP roles at
Neteffekt<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=moz-signature>Karl, <BR><BR>Thanks but placing a call would be
a waste of both you time and my time, we do not under any circumstances
use recruitment agencies. <BR><BR>Dave<BR></DIV><BR><BR>Lightfoot, Karl
wrote:
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Dave,<BR><BR>I hope you are well. <BR><BR>For the last 9 years, I have
specialised in recruiting Internet staff in the Midlands region. In this
time I have placed over 300 staff and have the best track record in this
patch. <BR><BR>The reason for the contact is that as part of my recent
work, I am now a member of the PHP West Midlands forum that Dave Goodwin
runs. Looking down the list of members looks like my placement list as I
have worked and placed with many of them in the past. <BR><BR>I was
interested to reintroduce myself to you and given my track record, I
hope that we can work together in the future. <BR><BR>As most of my
clients make decisions as to which agency to use based on the quality of
their candidates, I have included examples to give you an idea of my
capabilities. <BR><BR>I shall put a call in soon but if you have any
questions please do not hesitate to call me on 0121 6075858.<BR><BR>With
regards<BR><BR><BR><BR>Karl Lightfoot<BR><BR>Computer Futures<BR>6th
Floor<BR>Phoenix House<BR>1-3 Newhall Street<BR>Birmingham<BR>United
Kingdom<BR>B3 3NH<BR><BR>Phone 0121 607 5858<BR>email <A
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