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<font color="#000000">Firstly I have posted this to the PHPWM group as
well as I would be interested if the other members are experiencing the
same hassle - the list is a professional / social network for like
minded professionals not a tool for recruitment agencies that said
relevant job postings are welcome and valuable to a proportion of the
list...... HOWEVER<br>
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Karl, <br>
<br>
Why have you bothered responding this - which part of "i don't want to
wast your time or my time" is ambiguous. And I thought the phrase "we
do not under any circumstances use recruitment agencies" was precise
and straight to the point. <br>
<br>
I don't mind the fact that you used the PHPWM list to identify
potential companies to place your clients and I certainly don't mind
you contacting us about it - I do however object to pushy salesmen who
will not take a polite no for an answer. <br>
<br>
You have contacted our reception by phone for our representative to
politely said no thank you having confirmed directly with me first.
Following this you emailed me direct, again I don't mind the
persistence as it only takes a moment to respond to the enquiry.<br>
<br>
You then try and engage me in a conversation about recruitment
processes and how to go about it but I think we are smart enough to
think of plan b,c,d,e... if plan a fails. Then to top all of this off I
get an automated data audit email from your oracle system to tell me
I'm on your systems and these are your data protections rules and
regulations - <i>great so I'm now going to get harassed by all the
other agents at computer futures. </i><br>
<br>
1. Please try to understand - as I can not make it any plainer than my
original response<br>
<br>
Karl, <br>
<br>
Thanks but placing a call would be a waste of both your time and my
time, we do not under any circumstances use recruitment agencies. <br>
<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
2. Remove any reference to me or my company from your recruitment
database<br>
<br>
Dave</font>
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Lightfoot, Karl wrote:
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<div><span class="848404811-07072009"><font color="#0000ff"
face="Arial" size="2">Thanks for the quick response- I know that Adi
generally uses adverts- what would happen if that doesnt work?</font></span></div>
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lang="en-us"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> Dave Holmes [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dave@neteffekt.co.uk">mailto:dave@neteffekt.co.uk</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 July 2009 12:38<br>
<b>To:</b> Lightfoot, Karl<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: PHP roles at Neteffekt<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Karl, <br>
<br>
Thanks but placing a call would be a waste of both you time and my
time, we do not under any circumstances use recruitment agencies. <br>
<br>
Dave<br>
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Lightfoot, Karl wrote:
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Dave,<br>
<br>
I hope you are well. <br>
<br>
For the last 9 years, I have specialised in recruiting Internet staff
in the Midlands region. In this time I have placed over 300 staff and
have the best track record in this patch. <br>
<br>
The reason for the contact is that as part of my recent work, I am now
a member of the PHP West Midlands forum that Dave Goodwin runs. Looking
down the list of members looks like my placement list as I have worked
and placed with many of them in the past. <br>
<br>
I was interested to reintroduce myself to you and given my track
record, I hope that we can work together in the future. <br>
<br>
As most of my clients make decisions as to which agency to use based on
the quality of their candidates, I have included examples to give you
an idea of my capabilities. <br>
<br>
I shall put a call in soon but if you have any questions please do not
hesitate to call me on 0121 6075858.<br>
<br>
With regards<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Karl Lightfoot<br>
<br>
Computer Futures<br>
6th Floor<br>
Phoenix House<br>
1-3 Newhall Street<br>
Birmingham<br>
United Kingdom<br>
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