<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:13px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3818"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3817">Hi all, this saturday is good for me. I'll be dropping the wife off at work just before 2, so 2 o'clock is a good time. How will we know one another?</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3819"><span>Nick</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3872"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3877" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3876"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3875"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3874"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3873"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "preston-request@mailman.lug.org.uk" <preston-request@mailman.lug.org.uk><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> preston@mailman.lug.org.uk <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 12 July 2016, 21:24<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Preston Digest, Vol 222, Issue 3<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3878"><br>Send Preston mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3884">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3885">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:preston-request@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston-request@mailman.lug.org.uk" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468356078741_3886">preston-request@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a ymailto="mailto:preston-owner@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston-owner@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston-owner@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Preston digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: A LUG needs a purpose (B McLellan)<br> 2. Re: A LUG needs a purpose (Mark Walton)<br> 3. Re: A LUG needs a purpose (Daryl Knight)<br> 4. Re: A LUG needs a purpose (Ken Walker)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:53:53 +0100<br>From: B McLellan <<a ymailto="mailto:bob.mclellan@gmail.com" href="mailto:bob.mclellan@gmail.com">bob.mclellan@gmail.com</a>><br>To: Preston and Lancashire Linux User Group<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>>, Ken Walker <<a ymailto="mailto:keneawalker@gmail.com" href="mailto:keneawalker@gmail.com">keneawalker@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:markwalton1967@aol.com" href="mailto:markwalton1967@aol.com">markwalton1967@aol.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose<br>Message-ID:<br> <CAEO=H1JcwPyVdLrU3F9M0GCiShtRC56qGh7m9b038t+<a ymailto="mailto:cdi5hXA@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:cdi5hXA@mail.gmail.com">cdi5hXA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Its a while since I've had any involvement with the education sector but if<br>you are looking to get involved with schools I suspect coding would be the<br>way to go. The old IT curriculum was basically an MS Office course which<br>added to the MS lock in. I believe there are now some programming elements<br>with python one of the preferred languages. Old school IT teachers with<br>little programming experience would probably welcome assistance and a few<br>Raspberry Pi/Micro bits would be the only hardware required.<br>Just my 2p<br><br>;)<br>On 12 Jul 2016 10:37 a.m., "Ken Walker via Preston" <<br><a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Hi Mark.<br>><br>> I was wondering whether this group was still alive as it has appeared to<br>> be gone and forgotten. I was a member of the Lancaster lug but that seems<br>> to have gone quiet now. My plan there was to start a project but no idea on<br>> what to do. This would have given people don't practical skills in<br>> learning how to code or for some of us reminding us how to to code. Any<br>> purpose is good though so I'm up for anything like you're suggesting.<br>><br>> If you get something arranged I'll try and make it.<br>> On 11 Jul 2016 21:10, "Mark Walton via Preston" <<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> Hi there,<br>>><br>>> I've spent some of the recent rainy weekends putting together an LTSP<br>>> server based on Linux Mint with XFCE.<br>>> I got there by starting with Edubuntu 14.04, then my own build on Ubuntu<br>>> 16.04 and finally working through the forums to get Mint 17.3 to build.<br>>><br>>> Now it's up and running it's ridiculously easy to host thin clients (old<br>>> Gigabyte Brix) from my equally old netbook. loaded with all the common<br>>> educational applications this would run any Primary school classroom for<br>>> KS2 and KS3.<br>>><br>>> Since it was an educational distro that got me going on this I began to<br>>> wonder why the LUGs do not reach out to the local schools and offer their<br>>> help in establishing Linux as a viable classroom alternative; given that<br>>> distros like Mint are now so new-user friendly. It can only be lack of<br>>> exposure to Linux and fear of the unknown that holds back Linux in the<br>>> Edtech sector.<br>>><br>>> This thought itself was a reflection on the time I spent briefly keeping<br>>> in touch with the Blackpool LUG last year, until they moved to their new<br>>> premises; they found a purpose in "makerspace" and all things kinetic<br>>> connected to Raspberry Pi's along with 3D Printers etc. This has not only<br>>> held their LUG together, but extended their appeal by giving the group a<br>>> puropse, rather than all sitting around with old laptops and playing with<br>>> the latest distro release's which was becoming a little stale.<br>>><br>>> Which gets me to the real point of my note...would anyone on this mailing<br>>> list like to refresh the Preston LUG, have a get-together, and maybe<br>>> discuss such options as working with the schools, or any other ideas that<br>>> would give us a "raison d'etre" to overcome this dormant state?<br>>><br>>> Come on, I know you're out there...you keep buying all the Linux<br>>> Voice/User mags before I can get to them in Morrisons or Sainsbury's :)<br>>><br>>> Mark Walton<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Preston mailing list<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>>> <a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston</a><br>>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Preston mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>> <a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston</a><br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/preston/attachments/20160712/71fe6842/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/preston/attachments/20160712/71fe6842/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:19:15 +0100<br>From: Mark Walton <<a ymailto="mailto:markwalton1967@aol.com" href="mailto:markwalton1967@aol.com">markwalton1967@aol.com</a>><br>To: B McLellan <<a ymailto="mailto:bob.mclellan@gmail.com" href="mailto:bob.mclellan@gmail.com">bob.mclellan@gmail.com</a>>, Preston and Lancashire Linux<br> User Group <<a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>>, Ken Walker<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:keneawalker@gmail.com" href="mailto:keneawalker@gmail.com">keneawalker@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:qwna45ioab9t58gmyqt45xrc.1468347555790@email.android.com" href="mailto:qwna45ioab9t58gmyqt45xrc.1468347555790@email.android.com">qwna45ioab9t58gmyqt45xrc.1468347555790@email.android.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Bob, Ken, Daryl, Nick and Olly,<br>Thanks for the responses, its good to see that there is life out there on the old mailing list.<br>All your points are valid and very topical. Im especially interested in Nicks views from inside the edtech sector and the opportunity this presents. There could be a very beneficial relationship to be forged by the LUGs with the schools now having more direct control over their IT, but having limited insight into alternatives beyond MS, Apple and Google; or the downsides to these options that the marketing materials tactfully avoid.<br>I also had a thought about coding, but using Sonic-pi, Scratch and possibly Squeek or Turtle.<br><br>It feels like there may be some interest in a meet up.<br><br>If I suggested somewhere like Cafe Nero opposite the train station in Preston on Saturday afternoon, dropping in/out say 2pm to 5pm would that be possible for anyone, or would an alternate date/venue be easier for the majority?<br><br>Mark<br><br>Sent from my ASUS<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/preston/attachments/20160712/4d7a99bf/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/preston/attachments/20160712/4d7a99bf/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:46:01 +0100<br>From: Daryl Knight <<a ymailto="mailto:cyberdot153@hotmail.com" href="mailto:cyberdot153@hotmail.com">cyberdot153@hotmail.com</a>><br>To: PLUG Preston Linux Users Group <<a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose<br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:DUB124-W44E15F5CCE50A58A3BAC63E8300@phx.gbl" href="mailto:DUB124-W44E15F5CCE50A58A3BAC63E8300@phx.gbl">DUB124-W44E15F5CCE50A58A3BAC63E8300@phx.gbl</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Hi Ken,<br>The date and venue are fine for me... but a 3 hour window is a bit vague (guess I like precision a tad too much).If someone could let me know what time they'd be arriving then I'll pop along at the same time, to avoid sitting for up to 2-3 hours waiting for people.<br>- Daryl<br><br><br><br>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:19:15 +0100<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:bob.mclellan@gmail.com" href="mailto:bob.mclellan@gmail.com">bob.mclellan@gmail.com</a>; <a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>; <a ymailto="mailto:keneawalker@gmail.com" href="mailto:keneawalker@gmail.com">keneawalker@gmail.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose<br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br><br>Bob, Ken, Daryl, Nick and Olly,<br>Thanks for the responses, its good to see that there is life out there on the old mailing list.<br>All your points are valid and very topical. Im especially interested in Nicks views from inside the edtech sector and the opportunity this presents. There could be a very beneficial relationship to be forged by the LUGs with the schools now having more direct control over their IT, but having limited insight into alternatives beyond MS, Apple and Google; or the downsides to these options that the marketing materials tactfully avoid.<br>I also had a thought about coding, but using Sonic-pi, Scratch and possibly Squeek or Turtle.<br><br>It feels like there may be some interest in a meet up.<br><br>If I suggested somewhere like Cafe Nero opposite the train station in Preston on Saturday afternoon, dropping in/out say 2pm to 5pm would that be possible for anyone, or would an alternate date/venue be easier for the majority?<br><br>Mark<br><br>Sent from my ASUS<br>_______________________________________________<br>Preston mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston </a> <br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/preston/attachments/20160712/9e46664c/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/preston/attachments/20160712/9e46664c/attachment-0001.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:24:15 +0100<br>From: Ken Walker <<a ymailto="mailto:keneawalker@gmail.com" href="mailto:keneawalker@gmail.com">keneawalker@gmail.com</a>><br>To: Daryl Knight <<a ymailto="mailto:cyberdot153@hotmail.com" href="mailto:cyberdot153@hotmail.com">cyberdot153@hotmail.com</a>>, Preston and Lancashire<br> Linux User Group <<a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose<br>Message-ID:<br> <CAMu2c3p9msw=kcVCx1GDV+auQz-s5DRFV7P3Z6zuqSQ+<a ymailto="mailto:QAwqbw@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:QAwqbw@mail.gmail.com">QAwqbw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Sorry mate Saturdays not good for me as I'll be at grasshoppers at the beer<br>festival followed by my mates wedding.<br>On 12 Jul 2016 20:46, "Daryl Knight via Preston" <<a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>><br>wrote:<br><br>> Hi Ken,<br>><br>> The date and venue are fine for me... but a 3 hour window is a bit vague<br>> (guess I like precision a tad too much).<br>> If someone could let me know what time they'd be arriving then I'll pop<br>> along at the same time, to avoid sitting for up to 2-3 hours waiting for<br>> people.<br>><br>> - Daryl<br>><br>><br>><br>> ------------------------------<br>> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:19:15 +0100<br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:bob.mclellan@gmail.com" href="mailto:bob.mclellan@gmail.com">bob.mclellan@gmail.com</a>; <a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a>;<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:keneawalker@gmail.com" href="mailto:keneawalker@gmail.com">keneawalker@gmail.com</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose<br>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>><br>> Bob, Ken, Daryl, Nick and Olly,<br>> Thanks for the responses, its good to see that there is life out there on<br>> the old mailing list.<br>> All your points are valid and very topical. Im especially interested in<br>> Nicks views from inside the edtech sector and the opportunity this<br>> presents. There could be a very beneficial relationship to be forged by the<br>> LUGs with the schools now having more direct control over their IT, but<br>> having limited insight into alternatives beyond MS, Apple and Google; or<br>> the downsides to these options that the marketing materials tactfully avoid.<br>> I also had a thought about coding, but using Sonic-pi, Scratch and<br>> possibly Squeek or Turtle.<br>><br>> It feels like there may be some interest in a meet up.<br>><br>> If I suggested somewhere like Cafe Nero opposite the train station in<br>> Preston on Saturday afternoon, dropping in/out say 2pm to 5pm would that be<br>> possible for anyone, or would an alternate date/venue be easier for the<br>> majority?<br>><br>> Mark<br>><br>> Sent from my ASUS<br>> _______________________________________________ Preston mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>> <a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston</a><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Preston mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>> <a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston</a><br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/preston/attachments/20160712/3ec53254/attachment.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/preston/attachments/20160712/3ec53254/attachment.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Preston mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk">Preston@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston" target="_blank">https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston</a><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of Preston Digest, Vol 222, Issue 3<br>***************************************<br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>