[SLUG] RE: Scarborough digest, Vol 1 #45 - 3 msgs

Wed Oct 30 14:01:01 GMT 2002

So does that mean a game of Unreal Tournament is out of the Question tonight
then?

:))

Mark the Windows 2000 User.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: FTP (Gavin Baker)
   2. IRC MEET TONIGHT - 7.30 (Adams, Jamie)
   3. If its not broken, dont (attempt to) fix it? (Adams, Jamie)

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Message: 1
Subject: Re: [SLUG] FTP
From: Gavin Baker <gavbaker at ntlworld.com>
To: scarborough at mailman.lug.org.uk
Date: 29 Oct 2002 16:28:53 +0000
Reply-To: scarborough at mailman.lug.org.uk

On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 20:44, aardvark llama wrote:

> >(ps, the GSSAPI and KERBEROS_v4 are security extensions to the ftp
> >protocol defined in rfc2228, not many ftp servers actually use them)
> Sure. Whatever. It doesn't mean that you *have to* implement it!

No. It doesn't.

> (I was somewhat puzzled by it's inclusion as a package with Mandrake.
> Although my ability to have my gast flabbered is probably rather low...)
>
> :)w
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Regards,
Gav

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Message: 2
From: "Adams, Jamie" <JAMIE.ADAMS at HOMEGROUP.ORG.UK>
To: "'scarborough at mailman.lug.org.uk'" <scarborough at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:35:54 -0000
Subject: [SLUG] IRC MEET TONIGHT - 7.30
Reply-To: scarborough at mailman.lug.org.uk

Server / Channel details:
irc.lug.org.uk / scarboroughlug

My computer is knacked once again (see my next email titled "If its not
broken, dont fix it", so it will probably be a bit later on that I am there,
hopefully there should be someone in the channel from 7.30 ish.

Cya then...
Jamie
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Message: 3
From: "Adams, Jamie" <JAMIE.ADAMS at HOMEGROUP.ORG.UK>
To: "'scarborough at mailman.lug.org.uk'" <scarborough at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:02:23 -0000
Subject: [SLUG] If its not broken, dont (attempt to) fix it?
Reply-To: scarborough at mailman.lug.org.uk

Everything was going swimmingly last night. I got my sound card working, got
my swirly debian logo at logon, and my loverly coloured file names (cheers
gavin). It was all running perfectly.

Then everything went horribly wrong. Really horribly wrong.

Debian had a lot of services running at bootup that I didn't think I needed,
such as leafnode and wwwoffle and other such things that I have never heard
of. So I thought I would have a crack at getting rid of some of them.

It used to be a fairly painless process in Mandrake, you could do it through
the control center. In Redhat I used to use the ksysv utility, which worked
fine. I plumped for ksysv, told it that I was using Debian and started to
remove the ones I didn't want. It all looked okay, so I saved my changes and
skipped past the warning that doing it all wrong could bugger up my system.

On bootup I noticed that there was a lot (loads) more information than usual
scrolling past, most of it said something about forcing loads and tainting
the kernel. It looked like this was something to do with the USB modules so
I used the modconf utility and removed them from the kernel. I dont use any
USB stuff anyway.

Now all the other modules are complaining about forced loads and kernel
tainting (whatever that is) and I have no mouse or keyboard in X....
arrrrrgggggggggggg!!!!! If I did not have such a pretty case I would have
kicked the bloody thing through the window!!

Anyway, it looks like it will be quicker to reinstall the whole thing than
fixing it. I should be able to install it pretty quickly now that I know
roughly what im doing, but its frustrating that I dont know what I did to
create all these problems in the first place.

Can anyone suggest a foolproof was or removing the extra redundant services
at startup? ksysv might not have been the problem, but I have vowed never to
use it again!
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