[SLUG] Meetings

John Allsopp john at johnallsopp.co.uk
Sun Sep 9 11:12:49 BST 2007


Not true, I have a Mac and have had big, time wasting usability with 
that too.

J

Neil Davies wrote:
> Get a mac   problems solved
> On 8 Sep 2007, at 21:10, John Allsopp wrote:
> 
>> Nope, I don't understand.
>>
>> I must admit I haven't come across reflective screen technology, and I 
>> know that CRT screens caused a few problems, but I'm not seeing a 
>> people's revolution against flat screens. Is there really a huge 
>> problem with them?
>>
>> And I think you started out right .. you said you know nothing about 
>> Linux. You really, really can't say that voluntary help doesn't work. 
>> The whole thing's build on voluntary help for gawd's sake. Linux, 
>> Firefox, all of it. Have a read of the Cathedral and the Bazaar, it 
>> really helped me understand a little more about open source culture.
>>
>> I agree with you though. Using Linux is very, very frustrating and 
>> when you need help, you do have to help yourself a lot too which is a 
>> culture change when normally you'd just take something that doesn't 
>> work back to the shop. But here, you didn't pay for it, and there's no 
>> shop. I have a degree in this stuff and find Linux impossible 
>> sometimes. But most of the time it's pure delight.
>>
>> The answer to getting Linux to use the technology you want is to 
>> volunteer to help people who want to make it happen.
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Lung wrote:
>>> As a Linux user, who knows nothing about Linux, and is an old fogey, 
>>> Ive found that expecting voluntary help when things go wrong or when 
>>> you cannot do extra things you want to, doesnt really work (and is 
>>> unfair on Linux experts anyway). Expecting a mass switch to Linux on 
>>> this voluntary support basis seems to me totally impractical. Linux 
>>> specialists wouldnt have lives of their own, let alone be able to get 
>>> on with their own professional work.
>>> Recruiting young people to become future experts and carriers of the 
>>> open source ethic is another matter. I think you are still really in 
>>> that stage.
>>> As yet M/S still seems to have an effective monopoly on some things 
>>> you might want to do.
>>> With no disrespect to the Linux community, its still restricted use 
>>> seems to reflect real restrictions on lay people who would use it.
>>>  More basicly, there is a problem with monitors that has been grossly 
>>> neglected and that is the stare-into-direct-light eye-strain they all 
>>> cause. (I know one SLG member is concerned with partially sighted 
>>> users.) Considering that Panasonic e-books use reflective screen 
>>> technology from a Cambridge Mass. US firm, it seems a pity that the 
>>> industry is so slow on the uptake for computer monitors to use this 
>>> eye-friendly technology.
>>> from
>>> Richard Lung.
>>> On Friday 07 Sep 2007 17:19, DAVID KNIGHT wrote:
>>>> A prime area for broadening the group would be schools, IT dept and
>>>> students if only to raise awareness that there is another choice. 
>>>> Several
>>>> IT students I've spoken to don't even know what Linux is, many haven't
>>>> tried it. It seems all most are familiar with is Microsoft, Microsoft,
>>>> Microsoft...






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