I have <cough!> acquired a couple of files purporting to be a ripped DVD. One is xx.fooobar.kvcd.bin, at 790M about right to be an AVI version of the disk, and the other is a 127byte .cue file: hexdump -C xx.fooobar.kvcd.cue xx.fooobar.kvcd.cue -- John Stumbles mobile 0780 866 8204 plumbing:heating:electrical:property maintenance home 0118 954 2406