<html><head></head><body>We know Stuart's point of view, but I don't think it's a consensus for change.<br><br>All in favour of changing venue, say Aye. All not in favour of a change of venue say Nay.<br><br>My vote is Nay.<br><br>Matt<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 February 2022 14:09:04 GMT, Mark De Souza-Wilson via Sclug <sclug@sclug.org.uk> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre dir="auto" class="k9mail">Completely agree with Keith.<br><br>I strongly disagree with any change of venue being made for the purpose<br>of making a political statement.<br><br>Whatever your views on Tim Martin or Brexit, I think we need to respect<br>that people have different thoughts, opinions and priorities - some of<br>which might be controversial and ones we do not agree with.<br><br>Personally Wetherspoons would not be my first choice of venue. <br>However, SCLUG has successfully held meetings there throughout the<br>[almost] 15 years whilst I've been a member. And there are a number of<br>good reasons why SCLUG should continue to meet at the same venue, on<br>the second Wednesday of each month.<br><br>- Some members have not attended in years and might not be aware of<br>changes in venue or meeting timimgs.<br>- Low prices for food and drink at Back of Beyond make the meetings<br>accessible to more people.<br>- Back of Beyond has a huge selection of drinks whether you prefer<br>ales, lagers or ciders etc.<br>- Back of Beyond has no music or sound from TVs, so it's generally easy<br>to hear each other speak.<br>- Back of Beyond is a very large pub with plenty of seating. This has<br>allowed us to move tables and chairs to accommodate the group at times<br>when we've had a larger number of attendees.<br><br>The first question we need to ask is whether there is a need to change<br>venue.<br><br>If we can agree a need to change venue, then I think we need to agree<br>what we're looking for in a new venue so that we can be objective.<br><br><br>Mark<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Keith Edmunds via Sclug <sclug@sclug.org.uk><br>Reply-To: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com><br>To: sclug@sclug.org.uk<br>Subject: Re: [sclug] Starting up real meetings again.<br>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:25:14 +0000<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">I and some others took <br>issue with the owner of Wetherspoons Tim Martin and his support for<br>Brexit.<br></blockquote><br>Is it appropriate to bring one's own political views to the LUG? There<br>may<br>well be others who strongly support Tim Martin's view, but neither<br>support<br>nor opposition to his views on Brexit should influence the choice of<br>venue.<br><br>It doesn't make any difference to me - I'm 100 miles away so won't be<br>there - but it's a slippery slope to allow a business owner's political<br>stance to influence how the LUG behaves.<br><br><br><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>