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From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Feb 1 16:45:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Sat Feb 1 16:45:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] (no subject) Message-ID: <200302011616.h11GGJ501235@server.martindominic.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------1044116179 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all I've noticed recently that i'm getting more and more of: 500 Host server does not support 8bitmime Is there something I can add or edit to fix this problem.. i am running SuSE 7.2.. cheers all apost ----------1044116179-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Feb 2 00:58:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (ray) Date: Sun Feb 2 00:58:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <200302011616.h11GGJ501235@server.martindominic.com> References: <200302011616.h11GGJ501235@server.martindominic.com> Message-ID: <200302020057.03761.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> > I've noticed recently that i'm getting more and more of: > > 500 Host server does not support 8bitmime > > Is there something I can add or edit to fix this problem.. i am running > SuSE 7.2.. This is normally due to trying to send html instead of real e-mail. Depe= nds=20 on what mail client you use, but there should be a setting somewhere to u= se=20 plain text (usually the default) rather than html. In Kmail 1.4.3 it is = in=20 'Configure Kmail' | Security. --=20 ray From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Feb 2 05:46:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (grburns) Date: Sun Feb 2 05:46:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Connecting to BT through surftime Message-ID: Have connected modem and checked log - connection fails at password authentication - I've asked BT about connection through Linux but they were not very helplful George Burns From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Feb 2 05:46:04 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Sun Feb 2 05:46:04 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Epson 660 belt Message-ID: <156.1b309cf0.2b6d9cb4@aol.com> --part1_156.1b309cf0.2b6d9cb4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Allan Read about this by chance. If belt still available, I have been looking for one for a while. Will pay if still there. Cheers Richard --part1_156.1b309cf0.2b6d9cb4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Allan
Read about this by chance. If belt still available, I have been looking for one for a while.

Will pay if still there.

Cheers

Richard --part1_156.1b309cf0.2b6d9cb4_boundary-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Feb 2 07:30:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Robert (Rob) M. Schneider) Date: Sun Feb 2 07:30:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Connecting to BT through surftime References: Message-ID: <3E3CC864.2090501@rmschneider.com> grburns wrote: >Have connected modem and checked log - connection fails at password >authentication - I've asked BT about connection through Linux but they were >not very helplful > >George Burns > > >_______________________________________________ >Scottish mailing list >Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk >http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > > George, Connecting to BT Surftime with a Linux box works fine. I used it for years, but am now on Telewest Broadband. Yes, you won't get assistance from BT as they don't spend the money to provide staff with Linux knowledge or experience, or provide documented guidance on their web site. Whether or not that's the "right" answer for BT and their customers is moot. I would recommend you use the program wvdial. It will greatly simplify setup, and provide you the ability to debug configuration settings for any problems that arise. It may already be installed on your Linux box, if not, easily found via Google. From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Feb 2 10:45:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Sun Feb 2 10:45:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Re: configuring sendmail Message-ID: <200302021016.h12AGKR04912@server.martindominic.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------1044180980 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks Ray, i'll give that a try.. ray wrote .. > > I've noticed recently that i'm getting more and more of: > > > > 500 Host server does not support 8bitmime > > > > Is there something I can add or edit to fix this problem.. i am running > > SuSE 7.2.. > > This is normally due to trying to send html instead of real e-mail. Depe= > nds=20 > on what mail client you use, but there should be a setting somewhere to > u= > se=20 > plain text (usually the default) rather than html. In Kmail 1.4.3 it is > = > in=20 > 'Configure Kmail' | Security. > > --=20 > ray > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ----------1044180980-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Feb 2 11:29:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Phil Deane) Date: Sun Feb 2 11:29:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Connecting to BT through surftime In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200302021128.42237.phil@miracleexpress.force9.co.uk> On Saturday 01 February 2003 11:22 am, grburns wrote: > Have connected modem and checked log - connection fails at password > authentication - I've asked BT about connection through Linux but they = were > not very helplful > I was using Bt Anytime up until a few months ago before they kicked me of= f for=20 staying online for more than 12 hours a day (Only did it twice). No custimized setting, just bog standrad Mandrake settings, Pap/Chap=20 authentication(by defuault it is either PAP or CHAP, but set it to PAP/CH= AP) --=20 Phil Deane http://www.MiracleExpress.force9.co.uk From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Feb 2 15:17:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Gordon JC Pearce) Date: Sun Feb 2 15:17:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Connecting to BT through surftime In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1044198961.1329.4.camel@elric.inet> On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:22, grburns wrote: > Have connected modem and checked log - connection fails at password > authentication - I've asked BT about connection through Linux but they were > not very helplful > > George Burns Ah-ha... I know this one. Is the network configured, and if so, does it have a default route set? Because if it does, it may get upset about authenticating. I had this with my girlfriend's PC, running Debian and connecting to nthellworld. Of course, this presupposes that you've checked you're using the correct name and password... Cheers, Gordon From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Feb 2 15:46:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (ray) Date: Sun Feb 2 15:46:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] KDE 3.1 released Message-ID: <200302021545.07150.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> FYI On January 28th 2003, the KDE Project released KDE 3.1, a major feature=20 upgrade to the successful KDE 3.0 series. http://www.kde.org --=20 rayH From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Feb 2 16:04:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Phil Deane) Date: Sun Feb 2 16:04:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] KDE 3.1 released In-Reply-To: <200302021545.07150.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> References: <200302021545.07150.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> Message-ID: <200302021603.36871.phil@miracleexpress.force9.co.uk> On Sunday 02 February 2003 3:45 pm, ray wrote: > FYI > On January 28th 2003, the KDE Project released KDE 3.1, a major feature > upgrade to the successful KDE 3.0 series. > > http://www.kde.org 4 days now I have been waiting and still no Mandrake packagaes :) I'm not= up=20 to compiling the bugger myself, so hopefully the Mandrake ones will arriv= e=20 soon. They have them for Redhat, Suse, and others though. From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Feb 2 16:21:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Kenny Duffus) Date: Sun Feb 2 16:21:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] BCS talk on Data Protection, Compliant Systems Design Message-ID: <200302021619.h12GJvaB003424@ramsay.cis.strath.ac.uk> Hi Not sure how many of you know of the BCS talk tommorow evening on "Data Protection, Compliant Systems Design": http://www.bcs.org.uk/branches/glasgow/eventsdetails.htm#DATA It sounds as if it could be interesting, the meeting is open to anyone and it will be held in the same place as the last one: http://www.bcs.org.uk/branches/glasgow/venue.htm -- Kenny Duffus Department of Computer & Information Sciences University of Strathclyde, Glasgow, UK Tel: +44 (0)141 548 3592 Fax: +44 (0)141 552 5330 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 3 09:48:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant) Date: Mon Feb 3 09:48:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] modems Message-ID: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F984FC@nationalsavings.uk.com> Michael, isn't that an internal one (sorry if i'm thick) ? I wouldn't mind making a donation any way (as well as paying your cost for posting it) but i need an external one. Thank you, Elise > ---------- > From: Michael Cameron[SMTP:Michael.Cameron@Galston.co.uk] > Reply To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > Sent: 31 January 2003 20:55 > To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: RE: [Scottish] modems > > > > >How many pints :-) ? > >Seriously, thanks for the offer. But i need a 56k one, being moved about > >quite a lot - unfortunately. > > > 56K 3Com/Megahertz Global PC card (model 3CCM156B) inc. cable, might be > able > to post tomorrow. Was going to donate to charity; I send you the modem, > you > make a donation? > > Michael > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > *********************************************************************************** This email and any accompanying files are confidential. 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Thankyou for your co-operation. ************************************************************************************* From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 3 10:20:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Colin McKinnon) Date: Mon Feb 3 10:20:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] modems In-Reply-To: <57EF3F6A7864D211A8D800A0C9E4D20C035B705F@mc04masg.glasgow.scot> References: <57EF3F6A7864D211A8D800A0C9E4D20C035B705F@mc04masg.glasgow.scot> Message-ID: <3E3E41C6.1010101@wew.co.uk> Colin.Speirs@scotland.gsi.gov.uk wrote: > > i bought a serial modem at lunch, a cheap one (was tempted by one that > > promised to make expresso and play music while downloading at > > supernatural > > rate, but went for the cheap option). > > > > Now i just unpacked the thing and $**!(%* the cable ended in > > two female > > plugs that don't seem to connect to anything on the back of my laptop > > (female 15pin plug, female 25pin plug and 2 usbs). > > So i didn't even get to find out if it was compatible or not, > > and i'll have > > the pleasure of an extra trip to Braehead tomorrow to get this problem > > solved/my money back. > > RE: [Scottish] modems > > Or go into Comcal in Bath St and see if you can buy a gender bender > for it. > I've got a few of these going spare - 25F<->9M straight thru (problems: there is very little clearance around the device and there are no screws to secure the 9pin end). You're welcome to have one - mail me offlist with a postal address. Colin > | | From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 3 10:38:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Michael Cameron) Date: Mon Feb 3 10:38:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] modems In-Reply-To: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F984FC@nationalsavings.uk.com> Message-ID: > >isn't that an internal one (sorry if i'm thick) ? I wouldn't mind making a >donation any way (as well as paying your cost for posting it) but >i need an >external one. >Thank you, > >Elise > PC Card aka PCMCIA (not PCI card). I am assuming that your laptop has a PCMCIA slot? I used it on my IBM Thinkpad (laptop) prior to drivers for its built in Winmodem becoming available so it works fine under Linux. I can also dig out the Windows install disks if you want, don't know if you dual boot or not. As for posting it, today does not look promising - thick snow, steep driveway & unsalted road I'm afraid. Michael From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 3 10:49:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant) Date: Mon Feb 3 10:49:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] modems Message-ID: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98500@nationalsavings.uk.com> Michael, sounds good, It does have a PCMCIA slot, though i'll have to rebuild my kernel because i didn't expect to use it anytime soon ... if you find the windows cds that would be handy, i do dual boot. As for the snow, no problem, i'm not really in a position to complain anyway :-) And the snow gave me a good excuse to postpone a trip south, so i'm very forgiving today :-) Thanks, > ---------- > From: Michael Cameron[SMTP:Michael.Cameron@Galston.co.uk] > Reply To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > Sent: 03 February 2003 10:37 > To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: RE: [Scottish] modems > > > > >isn't that an internal one (sorry if i'm thick) ? I wouldn't mind making > a > >donation any way (as well as paying your cost for posting it) but > >i need an > >external one. > >Thank you, > > > >Elise > > > PC Card aka PCMCIA (not PCI card). I am assuming that your laptop has a > PCMCIA slot? I used it on my IBM Thinkpad (laptop) prior to drivers for > its > built in Winmodem becoming available so it works fine under Linux. I can > also dig out the Windows install disks if you want, don't know if you dual > boot or not. As for posting it, today does not look promising - thick > snow, > steep driveway & unsalted road I'm afraid. > > Michael > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > *********************************************************************************** This email and any accompanying files are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, copy or disclose the content. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender by return email and delete this message. Thankyou for your co-operation. ************************************************************************************* From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 5 09:05:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Colin McKinnon) Date: Wed Feb 5 09:05:01 2003 Subject: NTHell - was Re: OT: RE: [Scottish] Good ISP for ADSL busine ss and hosting? Message-ID: <3E40D32F.8070609@wew.co.uk> "Paxton, Darren" wrote: > text.news.ntlworld.com Thanks Darren, I'm now a happy news bunny =:) Colin From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 5 20:44:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Robertson) Date: Wed Feb 5 20:44:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] ISDN adaptors Message-ID: <1044478376.17972.164.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> Hello I am about to take the plunge into ISDN - ADSL not available for the forseeable future. Can anyone recommend an Adaptor> Running R H 8. have seen an external box two line capable. Am installing home highway which normally runs at 64K. Regards -- Ian Robertson Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 6 01:57:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (ray) Date: Thu Feb 6 01:57:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] ISDN adaptors In-Reply-To: <1044478376.17972.164.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> References: <1044478376.17972.164.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <200302060156.44029.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> You should not need an adaptor. The Highway box has an integral USB TA. I have SuSE 8.1 and can connect via a USB cable; although my default route is via ethernet and a switch/router box. The USB TA uses: /lib/modules/2.4.19-4GB/kernel/drivers/isdn/hisax/hisax_st5481.o I also look after other machines that is use AVM FRitz pci cards supplied by BT. They were autodetected by (I think it was) SuSE 7.0 and work fine. -- ray From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 6 08:57:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Michael Cameron) Date: Thu Feb 6 08:57:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] ISDN adaptors In-Reply-To: <200302060156.44029.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> Message-ID: > >You should not need an adaptor. The Highway box has an integral >USB TA. I >have SuSE 8.1 and can connect via a USB cable; although my default >route is >via ethernet and a switch/router box. > >The USB TA uses: >/lib/modules/2.4.19-4GB/kernel/drivers/isdn/hisax/hisax_st5481.o > >I also look after other machines that is use AVM FRitz pci cards >supplied by >BT. They were autodetected by (I think it was) SuSE 7.0 and work fine. > I picked up a Netopia R3100-SP ISDN router on ebay for �25. There are bargains to be had from ISDN customers now covered by DSL/cable. If you are interested in more speed then you probably want something that will give the full 128K rather than just using the single 64K channel and that means finding a reasonable 128K ISP which is no mean feat if you have anything more than minimal usage. Unmetered 128K has only been available since the middle of last year and the main players are all struggling a little between contention (and remember this is contention for a port not for bandwidth so there are times when you will be unable to connect), maximum usage (200 hrs/month is about the max) and cutoffs (2 to 4 hrs). Prices vary by package from as low as �5 (the wee small hours only) to over �50 for anytime with a reasonable package. Personally I just gave up and got an uncontended line from Demon (it is being activated tomorrow). Not cheap though. Finally, if you are a gamer then you probably want to avoid the USB socket, I believe it can easily add in excess of 10ms to pings (which incidentally are probably worse on 128K than 64K). Michael From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 6 09:39:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ben Thorp) Date: Thu Feb 6 09:39:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Certification Centres Message-ID: OK, without getting into a big discussion on the merits of getting Linu= x certification, I was wondering if anyone knew of a (preferably central-belt) training centre where I could take the Linux Professional= Institute exams, without have to take (and pay through the nose for) a = big training course. I just want to pay for and sit the exams. (Oh, and slightly OT, but http://www.sdit.co.uk/products/range.asp?prid= =3D9 have some nice cheap Linux boxes - =A3199 inc VAT + delivery for an AMD= Duron1300, 128Mb RAM, RedHat 8.0 preinstalled!) Ben Thorp (mrBen) = From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 6 11:52:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant) Date: Thu Feb 6 11:52:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Certification Centres Message-ID: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98549@nationalsavings.uk.com> I took it in Glasgow city centre without training : i think it was a VUE centre. Look at the LPI site or the vue site, that's how i found it (i don't remember it being too expensive, and they're flexible on time). I can dig up the address tonight if you can't find it ... ---------- From: Ben Thorp [SMTP:THORPB@uk.ibm.com] Sent: 06 February 2003 09:38 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Scottish] Certification Centres OK, without getting into a big discussion on the merits of getting Linux certification, I was wondering if anyone knew of a (preferably central-belt) training centre where I could take the Linux Professional Institute exams, without have to take (and pay through the nose for) a big training course. I just want to pay for and sit the exams. (Oh, and slightly OT, but http://www.sdit.co.uk/products/range.asp?prid=9 have some nice cheap Linux boxes - ?199 inc VAT + delivery for an AMD Duron1300, 128Mb RAM, RedHat 8.0 preinstalled!) 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Thankyou for your co-operation. ************************************************************************************* From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 6 13:17:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Peter George) Date: Thu Feb 6 13:17:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Certification Centres Message-ID: Ben, Net Resources Ltd in Edinburgh are currently piloting LPIC 1 exam = preparation training.=20 We deliver LPI101 over 4 days at =A3895 + VAT (exam fees additional = =A371 + VAT), LPI102 similarly. These fees are substantially less than = our competitors in England.=20 Experienced candidates can normally get through the required exam = preparation in an intensive 2 day session at 50% cost.=20 If you require exam only, I would recommend calling Prometric to book = the paper on 0800 592 873 and sitiing it at either; Informatics Group UK Edinburgh +44 1312203037 3rd Floor=20 132 Rose Street=20 Edinburgh EH2 3JD=20 =20 Informatics Group UK Glasgow +44 1412252752 163 West George Street=20 2nd Floor=20 Glasgow G2 2JJ=20 If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact = me. Regards, P -- Peter George Training Manager Net Resources Ltd, 26 Palmerston Place, Edinburgh, EH12 5AL T: +44 131 477 7127 F: +44 131 477 7126=20 http://www.netresources.co.uk =20 -----Original Message----- From: scottish-request@mailman.lug.org.uk = [mailto:scottish-request@mailman.lug.org.uk]=20 Sent: 06 February 2003 12:00 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Scottish digest, Vol 1 #121 - 5 msgs Send Scottish mailing list submissions to scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to scottish-request@mailman.lug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at scottish-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than = "Re: Contents of Scottish digest..." Today's Topics: 1. ISDN adaptors (Ian Robertson) 2. Re: ISDN adaptors (ray) 3. RE: ISDN adaptors (Michael Cameron) 4. Certification Centres (Ben Thorp) 5. RE: Certification Centres (Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ian Robertson To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Date: 05 Feb 2003 20:52:54 +0000 Subject: [Scottish] ISDN adaptors Reply-To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Hello I am about to take the plunge into ISDN - ADSL not available for the = forseeable future. Can anyone recommend an Adaptor> Running R H 8. have seen an external = box two line capable. Am installing home highway which normally runs at = 64K. Regards --=20 Ian Robertson Tel +44 (0)1224 624811=20 Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 --__--__-- Message: 2 From: ray To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Scottish] ISDN adaptors Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 01:56:44 +0000 Reply-To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk You should not need an adaptor. The Highway box has an integral USB TA. = I =20 have SuSE 8.1 and can connect via a USB cable; although my default route = is=20 via ethernet and a switch/router box. The USB TA uses: = /lib/modules/2.4.19-4GB/kernel/drivers/isdn/hisax/hisax_st5481.o I also look after other machines that is use AVM FRitz pci cards = supplied by=20 BT. They were autodetected by (I think it was) SuSE 7.0 and work fine. --=20 ray --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Michael Cameron" To: Subject: RE: [Scottish] ISDN adaptors Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:56:34 -0000 Reply-To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > >You should not need an adaptor. The Highway box has an integral USB=20 >TA. I have SuSE 8.1 and can connect via a USB cable; although my=20 >default route is >via ethernet and a switch/router box. > >The USB TA uses:=20 >/lib/modules/2.4.19-4GB/kernel/drivers/isdn/hisax/hisax_st5481.o > >I also look after other machines that is use AVM FRitz pci cards=20 >supplied by BT. They were autodetected by (I think it was) SuSE 7.0=20 >and work fine. > I picked up a Netopia R3100-SP ISDN router on ebay for =A325. There are = bargains to be had from ISDN customers now covered by DSL/cable. If you = are interested in more speed then you probably want something that will = give the full 128K rather than just using the single 64K channel and = that means finding a reasonable 128K ISP which is no mean feat if you = have anything more than minimal usage. Unmetered 128K has only been = available since the middle of last year and the main players are all = struggling a little between contention (and remember this is contention = for a port not for bandwidth so there are times when you will be unable = to connect), maximum usage (200 hrs/month is about the max) and cutoffs = (2 to 4 hrs). Prices vary by package from as low as =A35 (the wee small = hours only) to over =A350 for anytime with a reasonable package. = Personally I just gave up and got an uncontended line from Demon (it is = being activated tomorrow). Not cheap though. Finally, if you are a = gamer then you probably want to avoid the USB socket, I believe it can = easily add in excess of 10ms to pings (which incidentally are probably = worse on 128K than 64K). Michael --__--__-- Message: 4 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk From: "Ben Thorp" Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:38:21 +0000 Subject: [Scottish] Certification Centres Reply-To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk OK, without getting into a big discussion on the merits of getting = Linu=3D x certification, I was wondering if anyone knew of a (preferably central-belt) training centre where I could take the Linux = Professional=3D Institute exams, without have to take (and pay through the nose for) a = =3D big training course. I just want to pay for and sit the exams. (Oh, and slightly OT, but = http://www.sdit.co.uk/products/range.asp?prid=3D =3D3D9 have some nice cheap Linux boxes - =3DA3199 inc VAT + delivery for an = AMD=3D Duron1300, 128Mb RAM, RedHat 8.0 preinstalled!) Ben Thorp (mrBen) =3D --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant" To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: RE: [Scottish] Certification Centres Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:56:36 -0000=20 Reply-To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk I took it in Glasgow city centre without training : i think it was a VUE = centre. Look at the LPI site or the vue site, that's how i found it (i = don't remember it being too expensive, and they're flexible on time). I = can dig up the address tonight if you can't find it ... ---------- From: Ben Thorp [SMTP:THORPB@uk.ibm.com] Sent: 06 February 2003 09:38 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Scottish] Certification Centres OK, without getting into a big discussion on the merits of getting = Linux certification, I was wondering if anyone knew of a (preferably central-belt) training centre where I could take the Linux Professional Institute exams, without have to take (and pay through the nose for) a = big training course. I just want to pay for and sit the exams. (Oh, and slightly OT, but = http://www.sdit.co.uk/products/range.asp?prid=3D9 have some nice cheap Linux boxes - ?199 inc VAT + delivery for an AMD Duron1300, 128Mb RAM, RedHat 8.0 preinstalled!) Ben Thorp (mrBen) _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish *************************************************************************= ********** This email and any accompanying files are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, copy or disclose the content. If you have received this email in error please contact the=20 sender by return email and delete this message.=20 Thankyou for your co-operation. *************************************************************************= ************ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk = http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish End of Scottish Digest From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 6 23:48:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (ray) Date: Thu Feb 6 23:48:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] KDE 3.1 released In-Reply-To: <200302021603.36871.phil@miracleexpress.force9.co.uk> References: <200302021545.07150.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> <200302021603.36871.phil@miracleexpress.force9.co.uk> Message-ID: <200302062347.29489.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> Mostly the 3.1 upgrade (I used the SuSE rpms) was easy and worthwhile, BUT KMail 1.5 caused a minor panic. It does not support GnuPG without a plug-in that has to be installed and configured separately. http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html -- rayH From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 7 13:27:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mark Robinson) Date: Fri Feb 7 13:27:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Certification Centres In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35263100588.20030207132621@reason-technology.com> Hello Ben, Thursday, 06 February 2003, you wrote: BT> OK, without getting into a big discussion on the merits of getting Linux BT> certification, I was wondering if anyone knew of a (preferably BT> central-belt) training centre where I could take the Linux Professional BT> Institute exams, without have to take (and pay through the nose for) a big BT> training course. I just want to pay for and sit the exams. I check into that late last year, and there is a testing centre in Dunfermline, VUE I think it was... I just called the enquiries number on their website. Mark From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 7 13:31:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ben Thorp) Date: Fri Feb 7 13:31:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Certification Centres Message-ID: Thanks for all the replies - I had a look at the VUE website (now I remember that I had been before, but the training centre locator was not working that day) and discovered that, among a couple of other places, Cardonald College in the centre of Glasgow does the exams, so I'll be going down that route I think. Ben Thorp From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 7 13:37:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mark Robinson) Date: Fri Feb 7 13:37:01 2003 Subject: Re[2]: [Scottish] ISDN adaptors In-Reply-To: <200302060156.44029.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> References: <1044478376.17972.164.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> <200302060156.44029.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> Message-ID: <159263696405.20030207133617@reason-technology.com> Hello ray, Thursday, 06 February 2003, you wrote: r> You should not need an adaptor. The Highway box has an integral USB TA. I r> have SuSE 8.1 and can connect via a USB cable; although my default route is r> via ethernet and a switch/router box. r> The USB TA uses: r> /lib/modules/2.4.19-4GB/kernel/drivers/isdn/hisax/hisax_st5481.o r> I also look after other machines that is use AVM FRitz pci cards supplied by r> BT. They were autodetected by (I think it was) SuSE 7.0 and work fine. They changed to AVM Felix cards (no longer hisax), which don't work in kernels < 2.4.19 (IIRC, end last time I looked that driver was marked experimental... I use any winbond 6992 based card just fine, eg Sitecom - although the card now listed on their site looks different to the ones I've bought in the past! Don't use an external TA, the ISDN subsytem is great, and I think the throughput will be slightly better with a PCI card. Mark From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 7 13:46:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Elwell, AD (Andrew)) Date: Fri Feb 7 13:46:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Re: ISDN stuff Message-ID: I've used several (ta ebay) BT Speedway cards of the hisax flavour OK However - has anyone played with compression under debian? I did have this working a while ago on demon/HomeHighway but can't remember what I did. (I know that I needed stac9 in the demon end. The module used to be good for mail / usenet downloads - could get about 14k peak off a single channel, but every now n then would hang while it reset itself with a flurry of errors to syslog. Anyone used a more recent implementation? & have any tips.. Ta, Andrew From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 7 16:41:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Colin McKinnon) Date: Fri Feb 7 16:41:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Certification Centres In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E43E103.80506@wew.co.uk> Ben Thorp wrote: >Cardonald College in the centre of Glasgow does the exams, so I'll be going >down that route I think. > > Hardly the centre, but it does have a good train service! I used to work there - they were big on Microsoft - tried to convert to the one true path to enlightenment - looks like I might have succeeded after all! Colin From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Feb 8 13:11:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mark Hillary) Date: Sat Feb 8 13:11:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] KDE 3.1 released In-Reply-To: <200302062347.29489.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> References: <200302021545.07150.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> <200302021603.36871.phil@miracleexpress.force9.co.uk> <200302062347.29489.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> Message-ID: <200302081309.12256.mark@no33.co.uk> --Boundary-02=_3FQR+qyiXkwp6lV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline Kmail does support gpg out of the box. What those plugins allow you to do i= s=20 sign and encrypt all message parts. Which is something kmail has not been=20 able to do before. It also can use certs. On Thursday 06 Feb 2003 11:47 pm, ray wrote: > Mostly the 3.1 upgrade (I used the SuSE rpms) was easy and worthwhile, BUT > KMail 1.5 caused a minor panic. It does not support GnuPG without a > plug-in that has to be installed and configured separately. > http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html > > -- > rayH > Mark Hillary --Boundary-02=_3FQR+qyiXkwp6lV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+RQF3RUCnoUaou0kRAmq8AJ4o723cI2QM3cG5ioMAlMqOGf7gOgCfXidB qXxYGIQRML8WUlko6fyTMxo= =STLJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_3FQR+qyiXkwp6lV-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Feb 8 15:21:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (ray) Date: Sat Feb 8 15:21:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] KDE 3.1 released In-Reply-To: <200302081309.12256.mark@no33.co.uk> References: <200302021545.07150.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> <200302062347.29489.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> <200302081309.12256.mark@no33.co.uk> Message-ID: <200302081520.45304.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, > Kmail does support gpg out of the box. What those plugins allow you to do > is sign and encrypt all message parts. Which is something kmail has not > been able to do before. It also can use certs. I do not understand what has happened here. I use gpg signing a lot, mostl= y because I am a Nominet tag holder and signed mail to the Nominet Auotomat= on is how domain registrations are managed. With KDE3.05/Kmail1.4.3 I coul= d choose from Options to send sugned mail and on reading signed messages th= ey were recognised as such and signaled as verified or not. I upgraded to KDE3.1 by downloading the SuSE8.1 rpms, dropping out of the g= raphical environment, su root, rpm -Fvh ..., back out of root, and startx. = Seemed painless. When I tried to sign a message in KMail1.5 the option was= not available. When I recieved a signed messsage a dialogue popped up: Problem: OpenPGP plug-in was not specified. Use the 'Settings->Configure KMail->Security' dialog to specify the plug-i= n or ask your system administrator to do that for you. I downloaded the files for the plug-in and then discovered that I needed so= me developer libs, then ran out of time so just used another machine with K= DE3.05 to send signed messages. I had however moved the gpg options file t= o ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf and have probably closed and opened Kmail. Today I find that the 'Sign Message' option is back, and am about to try i= t.=20 Incoming signed mail (e.g. your message to this thread) still produces the= warning dialogue.=20 Older signed messages that had been retrieved with KMail1.4.3 does not prod= uce the dialoge, and does display the status of the signature. =2D --=20 rayH =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+RSA/rfBg8yGgGC0RAgeuAJ4yuhr2DiFkB1cQV/OGHq5XWpd/OgCgpq2Q 9uGl3wQcEiaaZESAI69bo74=3D =3DEYqn =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Feb 8 15:37:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mark Hillary) Date: Sat Feb 8 15:37:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] KDE 3.1 released In-Reply-To: <200302081520.45304.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> References: <200302021545.07150.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> <200302081309.12256.mark@no33.co.uk> <200302081520.45304.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> Message-ID: <200302081535.25264.mark@no33.co.uk> --Boundary-02=_8OSR+NzZ+te+ION Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline Hey, Ok, think I see. Basicly the built in GnuPG support in kmail, can not handl= e=20 multi part message, SMIME. This is still true. But with the plugins it can.= =20 When using the plugins, if you compose an email you are given the option of= =20 which to use on the email.=20 I am using the plugins, so the sig data is in a septate part then the messa= ge.=20 This is what is causing the problem, because kmail 1.5 knows what the messa= ge=20 is, and looks if there is a plugin to check the message.=20 Mark Hillary --Boundary-02=_8OSR+NzZ+te+ION Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+RSO8RUCnoUaou0kRAjq9AKCdGyTITNtmQtmLJqw9bYO9AYsCOACeLjdw /0ro+nnUNg4KOSuzJlSdVIo= =388F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_8OSR+NzZ+te+ION-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Feb 8 16:47:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (ray) Date: Sat Feb 8 16:47:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] KDE 3.1 released In-Reply-To: <200302081535.25264.mark@no33.co.uk> References: <200302021545.07150.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> <200302081520.45304.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> <200302081535.25264.mark@no33.co.uk> Message-ID: <200302081646.31570.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> That seems reasonable. Ithink that what I did to make it work was change from the options to gpg.conf files and restart KMail. I think that what you are using is the IETF endorsed OpenPGP, which is described in MIME Security with Pretty Good Privacy, RFC 3156. S/MIME is proprietory and favoured by the fans of Bill G. Ref: http://www.imc.org/smime-pgpmime.html -- rayH From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Feb 8 22:35:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (grburns) Date: Sat Feb 8 22:35:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] BT connection Message-ID: Thanks for the useful info - I'm out of the country for two weeks. I'll get back to it when I return Thanks George Burns From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Feb 8 22:35:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Sat Feb 8 22:35:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Python training Message-ID: <57EF3F6A7864D211A8D800A0C9E4D20C035B707D@mc04masg.glasgow.scotland.gov.uk> This message is in MIME format. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C2CDFD.5B0C2DE0-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 11:55:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (willie fleming) Date: Tue Feb 11 11:55:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop Message-ID: <200302111155.32237.slug@itscotland.demon.co.uk> either this list is broken or nothing interesting is happening. -- Best Regards Willie Fleming willie@itscotland.demon.co.uk From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 11:58:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Allan Whiteford) Date: Tue Feb 11 11:58:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop References: <200302111155.32237.slug@itscotland.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E48E3BB.7C93DB89@whiteford.org.uk> willie fleming wrote: > > > > either this list is broken or nothing interesting is happening. > -- > Best Regards > Willie Fleming > willie@itscotland.demon.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Or, we're all just sitting here, poised to reply. Thanks, Allan -- This sentence have three erors. From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 12:05:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant) Date: Tue Feb 11 12:05:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop Message-ID: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98579@nationalsavings.uk.com> i have a question, but it's probably not very interesting : forgot my boot disk at home, is there any way i could get Linux running ? If no, that's alright, i'm asking out of curiosity. I do have partition magic if that would help. ---------- From: Allan Whiteford [SMTP:allan@whiteford.org.uk] Sent: 11 February 2003 11:51 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Scottish] Pin drop willie fleming wrote: > > > > either this list is broken or nothing interesting is happening. > -- > Best Regards > Willie Fleming > willie@itscotland.demon.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Or, we're all just sitting here, poised to reply. Thanks, Allan -- This sentence have three erors. _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish *********************************************************************************** This email and any accompanying files are confidential. 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Thankyou for your co-operation. ************************************************************************************* From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 12:15:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Drake, IT, CIR, SE Dunbartonshire) Date: Tue Feb 11 12:15:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop Message-ID: willie, did you just drop one? -----Original Message----- From: willie fleming [mailto:slug@itscotland.demon.co.uk] Sent: 11 February 2003 11:56 To: scottish@lists.lug.org.uk Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop either this list is broken or nothing interesting is happening. -- Best Regards Willie Fleming willie@itscotland.demon.co.uk _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 12:23:03 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ismail Murat Dilek) Date: Tue Feb 11 12:23:03 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql Message-ID: <3E48EB11.8030508@zoom.co.uk> Hi, I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then hits submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part works fine. Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits submit button. my php script check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it works for some email addresses, e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql database so script should take to download page but it is taking me registration page instead any ideas From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 13:07:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Graeme Chambers) Date: Tue Feb 11 13:07:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql In-Reply-To: <3E48EB11.8030508@zoom.co.uk> References: <3E48EB11.8030508@zoom.co.uk> Message-ID: <1044969027.5746.85.camel@xena.graeme-chambers.co.uk> Hi, The For loop on first execution sends the redirect header based on first test 9i.e. first email address returned from database). Suggest you include email address from form into SELECT query and decide what to do on basis of number of records returned. HTH Graeme On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 12:22, Ismail Murat Dilek wrote: > Hi, > I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then hits > submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part works fine. > Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits > submit button. my php script > check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to > download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. > Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it works > for some email addresses, > e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql database > so script should take to download page but it is taking me registration > page instead > any ideas > //Author: Ismail Murat Dilek > > require("conn.php"); > /// ======================================================== > // following part read values of entered details and prepares them for > mysql data input format > > $email = $HTTP_POST_VARS["email"]; > ///======================================================== > > > $query ="Select email from details"; // selects email field from details > table > $result = mysql_query($query); //executes sql select query > $num_result = mysql_num_rows($result); > /* searches database for email, if email dosent exist writes details to > database,then redirects user to download page > */ > for ($i=0; $i<$num_result; $i++) > { > $row= mysql_fetch_array($result); > $eml = stripslashes($row[email]); > $email = trim($email); > $eml = trim($eml); > $eq = strcmp($email,$eml); > if ($eq != 0) > { > header("Location:register.php"); > > } > else > { > header("Location:download.php"); > } > > > > }//end for > > ?> > From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 16:36:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ismail Murat Dilek) Date: Tue Feb 11 16:36:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql Message-ID: <3E49263F.9070509@zoom.co.uk> Hi, I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then hits submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part works fine. Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits submit button. my php script check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it works for some email addresses, e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql database so script should take to download page but it is taking me registration page instead any ideas From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 16:40:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Paxton, Darren) Date: Tue Feb 11 16:40:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql Message-ID: <4FDF5383D0FFD311A40900D0B747509A8A0346@wedintms01.uk.wmmercer.com> Looks vaugely familiar! -----Original Message----- From: Ismail Murat Dilek [mailto:olive@zoom.co.uk] Sent: 11 February 2003 16:35 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql Hi, I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then hits submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part works fine. Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits submit button. my php script check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it works for some email addresses, e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql database so script should take to download page but it is taking me registration page instead any ideas _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you received this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should destroy the e-mail message and any attachments or copies, and you are prohibited from retaining, distributing, disclosing or using any information contained herein. Please inform us of the erroneous delivery by return e-mail. Thank you for your co-operation. Mercer Human Resource Consulting Limited is regulated by the Financial Services Authority and is a member of the General Insurance Standards Council. Registered in England No. 984275. Registered Office: Telford House, 14 Tothill Street, London SW1H 9NB From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 16:44:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ismail Murat Dilek) Date: Tue Feb 11 16:44:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql References: <3E48EB11.8030508@zoom.co.uk> <1044969027.5746.85.camel@xena.graeme-chambers.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E492825.4080600@zoom.co.uk> Hi Sillly me. Removing redirect header to out side for loop and adding exit solved it, Graeme Chambers wrote: >Hi, > >The For loop on first execution sends the redirect header based on first >test 9i.e. first email address returned from database). > >Suggest you include email address from form into SELECT query and decide >what to do on basis of number of records returned. > >HTH > >Graeme > >On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 12:22, Ismail Murat Dilek wrote: > > >>Hi, >>I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then hits >>submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part works fine. >>Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits >>submit button. my php script >>check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to >>download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. >>Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it works >>for some email addresses, >>e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql database >>so script should take to download page but it is taking me registration >>page instead >>any ideas >>>//Author: Ismail Murat Dilek >> >>require("conn.php"); >>/// ======================================================== >>// following part read values of entered details and prepares them for >>mysql data input format >> >>$email = $HTTP_POST_VARS["email"]; >>///======================================================== >> >> >>$query ="Select email from details"; // selects email field from details >>table >>$result = mysql_query($query); //executes sql select query >>$num_result = mysql_num_rows($result); >>/* searches database for email, if email dosent exist writes details to >>database,then redirects user to download page >>*/ >>for ($i=0; $i<$num_result; $i++) >>{ >> $row= mysql_fetch_array($result); >> $eml = stripslashes($row[email]); >> $email = trim($email); >> $eml = trim($eml); >> $eq = strcmp($email,$eml); >> if ($eq != 0) >> { >> header("Location:register.php"); >> >> } >> else >> { >> header("Location:download.php"); >> } >> >> >> >>}//end for >> >>?> >> >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Scottish mailing list >Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk >http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > > > > From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 16:48:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Paul Millar) Date: Tue Feb 11 16:48:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql In-Reply-To: <1044969027.5746.85.camel@xena.graeme-chambers.co.uk> Message-ID: On 11 Feb 2003, Graeme Chambers wrote: > Suggest you include email address from form into SELECT query and decide > what to do on basis of number of records returned. Good idea, but bear in mind the usual caveats of including unchecked user input into a SQL statement ... suppose the user gives their email address as: "paulm@astro.gla.ac.uk; DELETE FROM details" }:^> Paul. > On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 12:22, Ismail Murat Dilek wrote: > > Hi, > > I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then hits > > submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part works fine. > > Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits > > submit button. my php script > > check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to > > download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. > > Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it works > > for some email addresses, > > e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql database > > so script should take to download page but it is taking me registration > > page instead > > any ideas > > > //Author: Ismail Murat Dilek > > > > require("conn.php"); > > /// ======================================================== > > // following part read values of entered details and prepares them for > > mysql data input format > > > > $email = $HTTP_POST_VARS["email"]; > > ///======================================================== > > > > > > $query ="Select email from details"; // selects email field from details > > table > > $result = mysql_query($query); //executes sql select query > > $num_result = mysql_num_rows($result); > > /* searches database for email, if email dosent exist writes details to > > database,then redirects user to download page > > */ > > for ($i=0; $i<$num_result; $i++) > > { > > $row= mysql_fetch_array($result); > > $eml = stripslashes($row[email]); > > $email = trim($email); > > $eml = trim($eml); > > $eq = strcmp($email,$eml); > > if ($eq != 0) > > { > > header("Location:register.php"); > > > > } > > else > > { > > header("Location:download.php"); > > } > > > > > > > > }//end for > > > > ?> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Particle Physics (Theory & Experimental) Groups Dr Paul Millar Department of Physics and Astronomy paulm@astro.gla.ac.uk University of Glasgow paulm@physics.gla.ac.uk Glasgow, G12 8QQ, Scotland http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/paulm +44 (0)141 330 4717 A54C A9FC 6A77 1664 2E4E 90E3 FFD2 704B BF0F 03E9 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 16:50:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (george) Date: Tue Feb 11 16:50:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql In-Reply-To: <3E49263F.9070509@zoom.co.uk> References: <3E49263F.9070509@zoom.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E4929A6.8050807@experimentalmonkey.co.uk> You probably want to change your conditional block to if(!$eq) { header("Location:register.php"); } else { header("Location:download.php"); } George Ismail Murat Dilek wrote: > Hi, > I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then hits > submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part works fine. > Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits > submit button. my php script > check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to > download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. > Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it works > for some email addresses, > e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql database > so script should take to download page but it is taking me registration > page instead > any ideas > //Author: Ismail Murat Dilek > > require("conn.php"); > /// ======================================================== > // following part read values of entered details and prepares them for > mysql data input format > > $email = $HTTP_POST_VARS["email"]; > ///======================================================== > > > $query ="Select email from details"; // selects email field from details > table > $result = mysql_query($query); //executes sql select query > $num_result = mysql_num_rows($result); > /* searches database for email, if email dosent exist writes details to > database,then redirects user to download page > */ > for ($i=0; $i<$num_result; $i++) > { > $row= mysql_fetch_array($result); > $eml = stripslashes($row[email]); > $email = trim($email); > $eml = trim($eml); > $eq = strcmp($email,$eml); > if ($eq != 0) > { > header("Location:register.php"); > > } > else > { > header("Location:download.php"); > } > > > > }//end for > > ?> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 16:52:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Graeme Chambers) Date: Tue Feb 11 16:52:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql In-Reply-To: <4FDF5383D0FFD311A40900D0B747509A8A0346@wedintms01.uk.wmmercer.com> References: <4FDF5383D0FFD311A40900D0B747509A8A0346@wedintms01.uk.wmmercer.com> Message-ID: <1044982552.5746.124.camel@xena.graeme-chambers.co.uk> On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 16:39, Paxton, Darren wrote: > Looks vaugely familiar! > Maybe another For loop has gone wrong? :) -- Graeme Chambers From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 16:55:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Drake, IT, CIR, SE Dunbartonshire) Date: Tue Feb 11 16:55:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql Message-ID: waiter waiter! there's a bug in my loop! -----Original Message----- From: Graeme Chambers [mailto:graeme@download-systems.co.uk] Sent: 11 February 2003 16:56 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: RE: [Scottish] php and my sql On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 16:39, Paxton, Darren wrote: > Looks vaugely familiar! > Maybe another For loop has gone wrong? :) -- Graeme Chambers _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 17:03:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (george) Date: Tue Feb 11 17:03:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql In-Reply-To: <3E492825.4080600@zoom.co.uk> References: <3E48EB11.8030508@zoom.co.uk> <1044969027.5746.85.camel@xena.graeme-chambers.co.uk> <3E492825.4080600@zoom.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E492C9D.3080204@experimentalmonkey.co.uk> I would tend to use a while loop while($row=mysql_fetch_array($results)) { // Do some stuff } to be perfectly honest I would probably use mysql_feetch_object() instead George Ismail Murat Dilek wrote: > Hi > Sillly me. Removing redirect header to out side for loop and adding > exit solved it, > > Graeme Chambers wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The For loop on first execution sends the redirect header based on first >> test 9i.e. first email address returned from database). >> >> Suggest you include email address from form into SELECT query and decide >> what to do on basis of number of records returned. >> >> HTH >> >> Graeme >> >> On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 12:22, Ismail Murat Dilek wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then >>> hits submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part >>> works fine. >>> Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits >>> submit button. my php script >>> check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to >>> download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. >>> Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it >>> works for some email addresses, >>> e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql >>> database so script should take to download page but it is taking me >>> registration page instead >>> any ideas >>> >> //Author: Ismail Murat Dilek >>> >>> require("conn.php"); >>> /// ======================================================== >>> // following part read values of entered details and prepares them >>> for mysql data input format >>> >>> $email = $HTTP_POST_VARS["email"]; >>> ///======================================================== >>> >>> >>> $query ="Select email from details"; // selects email field from >>> details table >>> $result = mysql_query($query); //executes sql select query >>> $num_result = mysql_num_rows($result); >>> /* searches database for email, if email dosent exist writes details to >>> database,then redirects user to download page >>> */ >>> for ($i=0; $i<$num_result; $i++) >>> { >>> $row= mysql_fetch_array($result); >>> $eml = stripslashes($row[email]); >>> $email = trim($email); >>> $eml = trim($eml); >>> $eq = strcmp($email,$eml); >>> if ($eq != 0) >>> { >>> header("Location:register.php"); >>> } >>> else >>> { >>> header("Location:download.php"); >>> } >>> }//end for >>> >>> ?> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Scottish mailing list >> Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk >> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish >> >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 17:06:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (george) Date: Tue Feb 11 17:06:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql In-Reply-To: <3E492C9D.3080204@experimentalmonkey.co.uk> References: <3E48EB11.8030508@zoom.co.uk> <1044969027.5746.85.camel@xena.graeme-chambers.co.uk> <3E492825.4080600@zoom.co.uk> <3E492C9D.3080204@experimentalmonkey.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E492D0F.4090208@experimentalmonkey.co.uk> That should be fetch G george wrote: > I would tend to use a while loop > > while($row=mysql_fetch_array($results)) > { > // Do some stuff > } > > to be perfectly honest I would probably use mysql_feetch_object() instead > > George > > Ismail Murat Dilek wrote: > >> Hi >> Sillly me. Removing redirect header to out side for loop and adding >> exit solved it, >> >> Graeme Chambers wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The For loop on first execution sends the redirect header based on first >>> test 9i.e. first email address returned from database). >>> >>> Suggest you include email address from form into SELECT query and decide >>> what to do on basis of number of records returned. >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Graeme >>> >>> On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 12:22, Ismail Murat Dilek wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then >>>> hits submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part >>>> works fine. >>>> Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits >>>> submit button. my php script >>>> check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to >>>> download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. >>>> Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it >>>> works for some email addresses, >>>> e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql >>>> database so script should take to download page but it is taking me >>>> registration page instead >>>> any ideas >>>> >>> //Author: Ismail Murat Dilek >>>> >>>> require("conn.php"); >>>> /// ======================================================== >>>> // following part read values of entered details and prepares them >>>> for mysql data input format >>>> >>>> $email = $HTTP_POST_VARS["email"]; >>>> ///======================================================== >>>> >>>> >>>> $query ="Select email from details"; // selects email field from >>>> details table >>>> $result = mysql_query($query); //executes sql select query >>>> $num_result = mysql_num_rows($result); >>>> /* searches database for email, if email dosent exist writes details to >>>> database,then redirects user to download page >>>> */ >>>> for ($i=0; $i<$num_result; $i++) >>>> { >>>> $row= mysql_fetch_array($result); >>>> $eml = stripslashes($row[email]); >>>> $email = trim($email); >>>> $eml = trim($eml); >>>> $eq = strcmp($email,$eml); >>>> if ($eq != 0) >>>> { >>>> header("Location:register.php"); >>>> } >>>> else >>>> { >>>> header("Location:download.php"); >>>> } >>>> }//end for >>>> >>>> ?> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scottish mailing list >>> Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk >>> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Scottish mailing list >> Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk >> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 17:39:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (george) Date: Tue Feb 11 17:39:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] OT: Conga Message-ID: <3E493438.8070002@experimentalmonkey.co.uk> ont suppose anyone in this list has any experience using Conga http://opendoors.com/html/conga.htm George From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 18:16:03 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Paul Millar) Date: Tue Feb 11 18:16:03 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop In-Reply-To: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98579@nationalsavings.uk.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote: > i have a question, but it's probably not very interesting : forgot my boot > disk at home, is there any way i could get Linux running ? If no, that's > alright, i'm asking out of curiosity. I do have partition magic if that > would help. Depends what you're after. If you're trying to get Linux up and running when MS has trashed your MBR then get a prebuilt kernel from somewhere and dd if=kernel of=/dev/fd0 rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda1 (or wherever your root partition is). Although this does rather require a Linux machine up and running. Alternatively, if you want a "full" Linux distro, try getting Tom's root and boot, install it onto a floppy and reboot. HTH Paul. > > ---------- > From: Allan Whiteford [SMTP:allan@whiteford.org.uk] > Sent: 11 February 2003 11:51 > To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Scottish] Pin drop > > willie fleming wrote: > > > > > > > > either this list is broken or nothing interesting is happening. > > -- > > Best Regards > > Willie Fleming > > willie@itscotland.demon.co.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Scottish mailing list > > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > > Or, we're all just sitting here, poised to reply. > > Thanks, > > Allan > -- > This sentence have three erors. > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > *********************************************************************************** > This email and any accompanying files are confidential. If you are > not the intended recipient you must not use, copy or disclose the > content. If you have received this email in error please contact the > sender by return email and delete this message. > Thankyou for your co-operation. > ************************************************************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Particle Physics (Theory & Experimental) Groups Dr Paul Millar Department of Physics and Astronomy paulm@astro.gla.ac.uk University of Glasgow paulm@physics.gla.ac.uk Glasgow, G12 8QQ, Scotland http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/paulm +44 (0)141 330 4717 A54C A9FC 6A77 1664 2E4E 90E3 FFD2 704B BF0F 03E9 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 18:26:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant) Date: Tue Feb 11 18:26:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop Message-ID: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98585@nationalsavings.uk.com> Sounds interesting : i'll try Tom's root&boot. MS hasn't trashed anything (yet), it just doesn't allow me to write Lilo on the MBR (NTFS), and so i use a floppy to boot Linux from hdb1. Which i forgot at home. Thanks, ---------- From: Paul Millar [SMTP:paulm@astro.gla.ac.uk] Sent: 11 February 2003 18:16 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Cc: 'Allan Whiteford' Subject: RE: [Scottish] Pin drop On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote: > i have a question, but it's probably not very interesting : forgot my boot > disk at home, is there any way i could get Linux running ? If no, that's > alright, i'm asking out of curiosity. I do have partition magic if that > would help. Depends what you're after. If you're trying to get Linux up and running when MS has trashed your MBR then get a prebuilt kernel from somewhere and dd if=kernel of=/dev/fd0 rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda1 (or wherever your root partition is). Although this does rather require a Linux machine up and running. Alternatively, if you want a "full" Linux distro, try getting Tom's root and boot, install it onto a floppy and reboot. HTH Paul. > > ---------- > From: Allan Whiteford [SMTP:allan@whiteford.org.uk] > Sent: 11 February 2003 11:51 > To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [Scottish] Pin drop > > willie fleming wrote: > > > > > > > > either this list is broken or nothing interesting is happening. > > -- > > Best Regards > > Willie Fleming > > willie@itscotland.demon.co.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Scottish mailing list > > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > > Or, we're all just sitting here, poised to reply. > > Thanks, > > Allan > -- > This sentence have three erors. > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > **************************************************************************** ******* > This email and any accompanying files are confidential. If you are > not the intended recipient you must not use, copy or disclose the > content. If you have received this email in error please contact the > sender by return email and delete this message. > Thankyou for your co-operation. > **************************************************************************** ********* > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Particle Physics (Theory & Experimental) Groups Dr Paul Millar Department of Physics and Astronomy paulm@astro.gla.ac.uk University of Glasgow paulm@physics.gla.ac.uk Glasgow, G12 8QQ, Scotland http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/paulm +44 (0)141 330 4717 A54C A9FC 6A77 1664 2E4E 90E3 FFD2 704B BF0F 03E9 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish *********************************************************************************** This email and any accompanying files are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, copy or disclose the content. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender by return email and delete this message. Thankyou for your co-operation. ************************************************************************************* From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 19:02:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (ray) Date: Tue Feb 11 19:02:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop In-Reply-To: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98585@nationalsavings.uk.com> References: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98585@nationalsavings.uk.com> Message-ID: <200302111854.45049.ray@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> On Tuesday 11 February 2003 18:26, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote: > Sounds interesting : i'll try Tom's root&boot. MS hasn't trashed anything > (yet), it just doesn't allow me to write Lilo on the MBR (NTFS), and so i > use a floppy to boot Linux from hdb1. Which i forgot at home. > Thanks, I used to have a multi-boot NT4/NT5/Linux machine and used the NT boot manager (boot.ini) to choose. I found instructions at http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/larriera.html that looks as if it is the method that I used. I also used some software to mount an ext2 partition into NT. -- rayH From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 11 21:51:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Peter George) Date: Tue Feb 11 21:51:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] RE: Scottish digest, Vol 1 #125 - 2 msgs Message-ID: It's a bit noisier over at EdLug. Maybe we should come over ;) P -----Original Message----- From: scottish-request@mailman.lug.org.uk = [mailto:scottish-request@mailman.lug.org.uk]=20 Sent: 11 February 2003 12:00 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Scottish digest, Vol 1 #125 - 2 msgs Send Scottish mailing list submissions to scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to scottish-request@mailman.lug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at scottish-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than = "Re: Contents of Scottish digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Pin drop (willie fleming) 2. Re: Pin drop (Allan Whiteford) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: willie fleming Organization: SLUG To: "scottish@lists.lug.org.uk" Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:55:32 +0000 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop Reply-To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk either this list is broken or nothing interesting is happening. --=20 Best Regards Willie Fleming willie@itscotland.demon.co.uk --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:51:23 +0000 From: Allan Whiteford To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Scottish] Pin drop Reply-To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk willie fleming wrote: >=20 > >=20 > either this list is broken or nothing interesting is happening. > -- > Best Regards > Willie Fleming > willie@itscotland.demon.co.uk >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk=20 > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Or, we're all just sitting here, poised to reply. Thanks, Allan --=20 This sentence have three erors. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk = http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish End of Scottish Digest From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 11:31:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Colin McKinnon) Date: Wed Feb 12 11:31:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop In-Reply-To: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98585@nationalsavings.uk.com> References: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98585@nationalsavings.uk.com> <200302111854.45049.ray@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E4A3000.2010602@wew.co.uk> ray wrote: >On Tuesday 11 February 2003 18:26, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote: > > >>Sounds interesting : i'll try Tom's root&boot. MS hasn't trashed anything >> >> > >I used to have a multi-boot NT4/NT5/Linux machine and used the NT boot manager >(boot.ini) to choose. I found instructions at >http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/larriera.html that looks as if it is the > > Without wanting to go down the 'my bootloder is better than yours' path....having used lilo for years, I've now converted to grub. It reads ext2/3, reiser and various other fs so you can boot up from a floppy disk, and if you can remember where you parked your kernel start up your original installation. I've not tried it on dual-boot box though. Colin From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 12:58:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Wed Feb 12 12:58:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop Message-ID: <57EF3F6A7864D211A8D800A0C9E4D20C035B7084@mc04masg.glasgow.scotland.gov.uk> This message is in MIME format. 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> either this list is broken or nothing interesting i= s happening.

I have 2 questions

1) Why do I always have to have my messages moderated bef= ore they get posted. I do an answer to a problem and I look like

a spastic when the message turns up 5 hours = after everyone else has had a go and the thread's mutated into a
discussion on the difference in shoe sizes = between NT4 and Solaris 9

2) Do I assume noone knows about actual Python training c= ourses in Glasgow? (Thanks Gordon for the tutorial Info but the

work is actually willing to pay for training= for the first time in years) The only course I could find was in a
village near Bath.

cds

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D1C6.60934830-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 12:58:03 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ismail Murat Dilek) Date: Wed Feb 12 12:58:03 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql References: <3E48EB11.8030508@zoom.co.uk> <1044969027.5746.85.camel@xena.graeme-chambers.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E48FB60.2040202@zoom.co.uk> --------------070600040809040605060603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Siilly me. Removing redirect header to out side for loop solved the problem. Murat Graeme Chambers wrote: >Hi, > >The For loop on first execution sends the redirect header based on first >test 9i.e. first email address returned from database). > >Suggest you include email address from form into SELECT query and decide >what to do on basis of number of records returned. > >HTH > >Graeme > >On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 12:22, Ismail Murat Dilek wrote: > > >>Hi, >>I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then hits >>submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part works fine. >>Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits >>submit button. my php script >>check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to >>download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. >>Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it works >>for some email addresses, >>e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql database >>so script should take to download page but it is taking me registration >>page instead >>any ideas >>>//Author: Ismail Murat Dilek >> >>require("conn.php"); >>/// ======================================================== >>// following part read values of entered details and prepares them for >>mysql data input format >> >>$email = $HTTP_POST_VARS["email"]; >>///======================================================== >> >> >>$query ="Select email from details"; // selects email field from details >>table >>$result = mysql_query($query); //executes sql select query >>$num_result = mysql_num_rows($result); >>/* searches database for email, if email dosent exist writes details to >>database,then redirects user to download page >>*/ >>for ($i=0; $i<$num_result; $i++) >>{ >> $row= mysql_fetch_array($result); >> $eml = stripslashes($row[email]); >> $email = trim($email); >> $eml = trim($eml); >> $eq = strcmp($email,$eml); >> if ($eq != 0) >> { >> header("Location:register.php"); >> >> } >> else >> { >> header("Location:download.php"); >> } >> >> >> >>}//end for >> >>?> >> >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Scottish mailing list >Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk >http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > > > > --------------070600040809040605060603 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi
Siilly me. Removing redirect header to out side for loop solved the problem.
Murat

Graeme Chambers wrote:

Hi,

The For loop on first execution sends the redirect header based on first
test 9i.e. first email address returned from database).

Suggest you include email address from form into SELECT query and decide
what to do on basis of number of records returned.

HTH

Graeme

On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 12:22, Ismail Murat Dilek wrote:

Hi,
I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills  the form then  hits 
submit button and  all data posted to mysql database.This part works fine.
Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits 
submit button. my php script
check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to 
download page, if not exist takes them to registration page.
Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it works 
for some email addresses,
e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql database 
so script should take to download page but it is taking me registration 
page instead
any ideas
<?
//Author: Ismail Murat Dilek

require("conn.php");
/// ========================================================
// following part read values of entered details and prepares them for 
mysql data input format

$email = $HTTP_POST_VARS["email"];
///========================================================


$query ="Select email from details"; // selects email field from details 
table
$result = mysql_query($query); //executes sql select query
$num_result = mysql_num_rows($result);
/* searches database for email, if email dosent exist writes details to
database,then redirects user to download page
*/
for ($i=0; $i<$num_result; $i++)
{
    $row= mysql_fetch_array($result);
    $eml = stripslashes($row[email]);
    $email = trim($email);
    $eml = trim($eml);
    $eq = strcmp($email,$eml);
    if ($eq != 0)
    {
    header("Location:register.php");
   
    }
    else
    {
    header("Location:download.php");
    }
   
   
   
}//end for

?>




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--------------070600040809040605060603-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 12:58:08 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Gary Campbell) Date: Wed Feb 12 12:58:08 2003 Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql Message-ID: Try something like this instead..... Gary > -----Original Message----- > From: Ismail Murat Dilek [SMTP:olive@zoom.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:23 PM > To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: [Scottish] php and my sql > > Hi, > I ve created a mysql database. Basically user fills the form then hits > submit button and all data posted to mysql database.This part works fine. > Next time user return the page enters their email address and hits > submit button. my php script > check if email address exist in our database if exist takes user to > download page, if not exist takes them to registration page. > Some strange reason this comparasing is not working properly. it works > for some email addresses, > e.g. my email address olive@zoom.co.uk is registered in mysql database > so script should take to download page but it is taking me registration > page instead > any ideas > //Author: Ismail Murat Dilek > > require("conn.php"); > /// ======================================================== > // following part read values of entered details and prepares them for > mysql data input format > > $email = $HTTP_POST_VARS["email"]; > ///======================================================== > > > $query ="Select email from details "; // selects email field from details > table > $result = mysql_query($query); //executes sql select query > $num_result = mysql_num_rows($result); > /* searches database for email, if email dosent exist writes details to > database,then redirects user to download page > */ > for ($i=0; $i<$num_result; $i++) > { > $row= mysql_fetch_array($result); > $eml = stripslashes($row[email]); > $email = trim($email); > $eml = trim($eml); > $eq = strcmp($email,$eml); > if ($eq != 0) > { > header("Location:register.php"); > > } > else > { > header("Location:download.php"); > } > > > > }//end for > > ?> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 12:58:10 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (bob renshaw) Date: Wed Feb 12 12:58:10 2003 Subject: [Scottish] samba Message-ID: <200302111820.29649.bob@smithy> Can anyone assist me in setting up a network of three machines 2 running = linux=20 suse 7.3 and the other windows 98 and printer. Ive tried getting to grips with samba and sofar failed. bob From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 12:58:12 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (ray) Date: Wed Feb 12 12:58:12 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop In-Reply-To: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98585@nationalsavings.uk.com> References: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98585@nationalsavings.uk.com> Message-ID: <200302111854.45049.ray@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> On Tuesday 11 February 2003 18:26, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote: > Sounds interesting : i'll try Tom's root&boot. MS hasn't trashed anything > (yet), it just doesn't allow me to write Lilo on the MBR (NTFS), and so i > use a floppy to boot Linux from hdb1. Which i forgot at home. > Thanks, I used to have a multi-boot NT4/NT5/Linux machine and used the NT boot manager (boot.ini) to choose. I found instructions at http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/larriera.html that looks as if it is the method that I used. I also used some software to mount an ext2 partition into NT. -- ray From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 13:21:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Darren Paxton) Date: Wed Feb 12 13:21:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] samba References: <200302111820.29649.bob@smithy> Message-ID: <003601c2d299$87fb5560$363dc80a@deviance> Do you have SWAT installed as part of the samba installation? I found it really good to use that instead of trying to write an smb.conf file Darren ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob renshaw" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: [Scottish] samba Can anyone assist me in setting up a network of three machines 2 running linux suse 7.3 and the other windows 98 and printer. Ive tried getting to grips with samba and sofar failed. bob _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 15:56:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (bob renshaw) Date: Wed Feb 12 15:56:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] samba Message-ID: <200302121558.02507.bob@halkirk.org.uk> darren yes I have swat installed will try that. regards bob From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 15:58:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Graeme Boyd) Date: Wed Feb 12 15:58:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] samba In-Reply-To: <200302111820.29649.bob@smithy> Message-ID: Hi Bob, Do you want to access the windows box from Linux? Do you want to access the Linux boxes from Windows? You only need Samba running for the latter. Suse probably has Samba installed in which case all you need to do is write an smb.conf file which is quite easy. I just edited the default file. Once that's done you need to ensure Samba is started at boot. The only difficulties with Samba stem from password encryption (which changed for Windows 2000) and remembering to setup the passwords for the users connecting correctly with Samba. Samba tutorial: http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-unofficial-multiple.html I suggest you post your smb.conf file and details of error messages if the link doesn't help. Graeme On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 06:20 pm, bob renshaw wrote: > Can anyone assist me in setting up a network of three machines 2 > running linux > suse 7.3 and the other windows 98 and printer. > Ive tried getting to grips with samba and sofar failed. > > bob > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 15:58:04 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Aidan Skinner) Date: Wed Feb 12 15:58:04 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop In-Reply-To: <3E4A3000.2010602@wew.co.uk> References: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98585@nationalsavings.uk.com> <200302111854.45049.ray@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> <3E4A3000.2010602@wew.co.uk> Message-ID: <20030212155749.GL2067@velvet.net> On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 11:29:04AM +0000, Colin McKinnon wrote > path....having used lilo for years, I've now converted to grub. It reads > ext2/3, reiser and various other fs so you can boot up from a floppy > disk, and if you can remember where you parked your kernel start up your > original installation. I've not tried it on dual-boot box though. Grub works incredibly well for multi-boot setups, including chainloading and similar nifty things. I've sucesfully had rhl73, rhl80, freebsd and windows XP cohabitting under grub without pain. - Aidan -- aidan@velvet.net http://www.velvet.net/~aidan/ aim:aidans42 http://www.livejournal.com/users/aidan_skinner/ finger for pgp key: 01AA 1594 2DB0 09E3 B850 C2D0 9A2C 4CC9 3EC4 75E1 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 16:10:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant) Date: Wed Feb 12 16:10:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop Message-ID: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F9859F@nationalsavings.uk.com> Do you boot from a floppy, or did you install XP on another partition than the first, or is there some way to overwrite the mbr when XP is on the first partition ? (lilo won't load because it doesn't like NTFS) (I might try grub anyway) ---------- From: Aidan Skinner [SMTP:aidan@velvet.net] Sent: 12 February 2003 15:58 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Scottish] Pin drop On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 11:29:04AM +0000, Colin McKinnon wrote > path....having used lilo for years, I've now converted to grub. It reads > ext2/3, reiser and various other fs so you can boot up from a floppy > disk, and if you can remember where you parked your kernel start up your > original installation. I've not tried it on dual-boot box though. Grub works incredibly well for multi-boot setups, including chainloading and similar nifty things. I've sucesfully had rhl73, rhl80, freebsd and windows XP cohabitting under grub without pain. - Aidan -- aidan@velvet.net http://www.velvet.net/~aidan/ aim:aidans42 http://www.livejournal.com/users/aidan_skinner/ finger for pgp key: 01AA 1594 2DB0 09E3 B850 C2D0 9A2C 4CC9 3EC4 75E1 _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish *********************************************************************************** This email and any accompanying files are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, copy or disclose the content. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender by return email and delete this message. Thankyou for your co-operation. ************************************************************************************* From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 16:45:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Aidan Skinner) Date: Wed Feb 12 16:45:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Pin drop In-Reply-To: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F9859F@nationalsavings.uk.com> References: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F9859F@nationalsavings.uk.com> Message-ID: <20030212164423.GM2067@velvet.net> On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 04:10:24PM -0000, Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant wrote > Do you boot from a floppy, > or did you install XP on another partition than the first, > or is there some way to overwrite the mbr when XP is on the first partition > ? (lilo won't load because it doesn't like NTFS) > (I might try grub anyway) I have grub on the MBR, and XP installed on the 3rd partition of the first hard disk. Grub is setup to boot the XP partition using the chainload method. I would recocomend reading the grub documentation for your system, make boot floppys and giving it a shot. Worked really well for me. :) - Aidan -- aidan@velvet.net http://www.velvet.net/~aidan/ aim:aidans42 http://www.livejournal.com/users/aidan_skinner/ finger for pgp key: 01AA 1594 2DB0 09E3 B850 C2D0 9A2C 4CC9 3EC4 75E1 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 12 20:52:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Robertson) Date: Wed Feb 12 20:52:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Redhat install/Running Message-ID: <1045083814.1481.6.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> Hello Recently installed R/H 8 on one system. Having problems with Ximian Evolution when attempting to print M/S generated e-mail in html. Ximian blows up. have reported fault but ..... Also on install, Tried to load R/H 8 on older system with PCI graphics card. Install insists on probing for monitor and hangs. Other than installing new graphics card any way round? Have tried text install with the same result. -- Ian Robertson Specialist Skating Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 13 10:37:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Michael Cameron) Date: Thu Feb 13 10:37:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] OT: Serial cables In-Reply-To: <1045083814.1481.6.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Anyone suggest decent mail order for non-standard serial cables (i.e. custom made)? Michael From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 13 13:42:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Gordon JC Pearce) Date: Thu Feb 13 13:42:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] OT: Serial cables In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1045143696.22224.3.camel@elric.inet> On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 10:36, Michael Cameron wrote: > Anyone suggest decent mail order for non-standard serial cables (i.e. custom > made)? > > Michael What do you need? Gordon From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 13 13:52:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Elwell, AD (Andrew)) Date: Thu Feb 13 13:52:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] OT: Serial cables Message-ID: black box I *think* they used to do them, but can't see it on current website http://www.blackbox.co.uk (if you need loads and are prepared to extrude cash though your nasal cavity.) > Anyone suggest decent mail order for non-standard serial > cables (i.e. custom > made)? -- HPCx - Size Matters http://www.hpcx.ac.uk From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 13 13:57:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Michael Cameron) Date: Thu Feb 13 13:57:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] OT: Serial cables In-Reply-To: <1045143696.22224.3.camel@elric.inet> Message-ID: > >On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 10:36, Michael Cameron wrote: >> Anyone suggest decent mail order for non-standard serial cables >(i.e. custom >> made)? >> >> Michael > >What do you need? > >Gordon 9 pin D female --> 15 pin D male TXD 3 ----------- 11 RXD RXD 2 ----------- 10 TXD DTR 4 \ DSR 6 -> CTS 8 / GND 5 ----------- 9 GND It's to flash my KVM switch... From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 13 14:10:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Drake, IT, CIR, SE Dunbartonshire) Date: Thu Feb 13 14:10:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] OT: Serial cables Message-ID: Looks like a ver standard DCE to DTE cable, ie a serail modem cable should do the job. Rgds, Ian -----Original Message----- From: Michael Cameron [mailto:Michael.Cameron@Galston.co.uk] Sent: 13 February 2003 13:56 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: RE: [Scottish] OT: Serial cables > >On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 10:36, Michael Cameron wrote: >> Anyone suggest decent mail order for non-standard serial cables >(i.e. custom >> made)? >> >> Michael > >What do you need? > >Gordon 9 pin D female --> 15 pin D male TXD 3 ----------- 11 RXD RXD 2 ----------- 10 TXD DTR 4 \ DSR 6 -> CTS 8 / GND 5 ----------- 9 GND It's to flash my KVM switch... _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 14 21:03:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Robertson) Date: Fri Feb 14 21:03:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] ISDN control Message-ID: <1045257204.1499.16.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> Hello can anyone advise how to switch down to 1 channel for ISDN. Using R/H 8 system seems to be making connection but using 2 channels when service to ISP says i should only be using one -- Ian Robertson Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 19 21:25:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (george) Date: Wed Feb 19 21:25:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Not anopther OT post Message-ID: <3E53F63A.1070303@experimentalmonkey.co.uk> I seem to remember someone on this list is involved with a wireless network project for Glasgow. Can someone point me in the right direction to find out more info. George From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 19 21:33:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Irvine) Date: Wed Feb 19 21:33:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Not anopther OT post In-Reply-To: <3E53F63A.1070303@experimentalmonkey.co.uk> References: <3E53F63A.1070303@experimentalmonkey.co.uk> Message-ID: <1045690292.1285.40.camel@debian> On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 21:25, george wrote: > > I seem to remember someone on this list is involved with a wireless > network project for Glasgow. Can someone point me in the right direction > to find out more info. > There are quite a few of us, but you probably want to get in touch with Kyle Gordon (bagpuss at lodge dot glasgownet dot com) there is a resource www.glasgownet.com which will be up again realsoonnow(tm) if its not already back. hth D > George > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 20 12:08:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Tam McLaughlin) Date: Thu Feb 20 12:08:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Where does KDE3.1 kaddressbook store addresses? Message-ID: <200302201205.54117.tamm@scotlegal.com> I upgraded to kde3.1 and imported my addresses from previous kde but the import has causes the names to be displayed with quotation marks. I want to manually edit the address book but cannot find it anywhere. I have checked the kmailrc and kaddressbookrc files and even used lsof to check for open files but cannot find where kaddressbook stores its data. Any ideas? From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 20 20:20:00 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (ray) Date: Thu Feb 20 20:20:00 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Where does KDE3.1 kaddressbook store addresses? In-Reply-To: <200302201205.54117.tamm@scotlegal.com> References: <200302201205.54117.tamm@scotlegal.com> Message-ID: <200302202019.01904.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> found with grep: ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf -- rayH From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 20 20:22:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Phil Deane) Date: Thu Feb 20 20:22:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Where does KDE3.1 kaddressbook store addresses? In-Reply-To: <200302201205.54117.tamm@scotlegal.com> References: <200302201205.54117.tamm@scotlegal.com> Message-ID: <200302202021.15056.phil@miracleexpress.force9.co.uk> On Thursday 20 February 2003 12:05 pm, Tam McLaughlin wrote: > I upgraded to kde3.1 and imported my addresses from previous kde > but the import has causes the names to be displayed with quotation mark= s. > I want to manually edit the address book but cannot find it anywhere. > I have checked the kmailrc and kaddressbookrc files and even used lsof > to check for open files but cannot find where kaddressbook stores its d= ata. > Any ideas? Try /home/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf Works in Mandrake anyway --=20 Phil Deane http://www.MiracleExpress.force9.co.uk From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 21 06:21:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Robertson) Date: Fri Feb 21 06:21:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. Message-ID: <1045809265.2811.1108.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> hello I have a number of bits some folk may be able to use: 133 Processor & Motherboard inc 64Mb memory, cd reader, s3 graphics card, and keyboard. 1 Abit BP6 twin processor motherboard inc 1 Celeron 400 processor. 2 hard disk drives: 1 x 3Gb Seagate 1 X 8Gb Quantum - needs low level formatting. All above free to good home, buyer collects/pays transit. Kit just south of Aberdeen(Portlethen). I also have a spare HP 1100 Printer for which I am prepared to sell not much used - any offers? Regards Ian -- Ian Robertson Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 21 08:01:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ben Thorp) Date: Fri Feb 21 08:01:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. Message-ID: I'd be interested in one or other of the harddrives and the mobo+processor - although I have very little exp (ie none) with twin boards - I am assuming it is fully Linux compat, and would I be able to slot it nicely into a standard ATX case. Ben Thorp Hitachi Global Storage Technologies Support Centre ibm.com Service Centre, EMEA Tel: 0870-010 2866 Ext: 69688 Visit our ibm.com Web sites: External: http://www.ibm.com Internal: http://w3.emea.ibm.com/ssc Ian Robertson cc: Sent by: Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. scottish-admin@mailman .lug.org.uk 21/02/03 06:35 Please respond to scottish hello I have a number of bits some folk may be able to use: 133 Processor & Motherboard inc 64Mb memory, cd reader, s3 graphics card, and keyboard. 1 Abit BP6 twin processor motherboard inc 1 Celeron 400 processor. 2 hard disk drives: 1 x 3Gb Seagate 1 X 8Gb Quantum - needs low level formatting. All above free to good home, buyer collects/pays transit. Kit just south of Aberdeen(Portlethen). I also have a spare HP 1100 Printer for which I am prepared to sell not much used - any offers? Regards Ian -- Ian Robertson Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 21 08:35:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Tam McLaughlin) Date: Fri Feb 21 08:35:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Where does KDE3.1 kaddressbook store addresses? In-Reply-To: <200302202019.01904.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> References: <200302201205.54117.tamm@scotlegal.com> <200302202019.01904.sysman@engineering-intelligence.co.uk> Message-ID: <200302210833.43130.tamm@scotlegal.com> On Thursday 20 Feb 2003 8:19 pm, ray wrote: > found with grep: > ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf Thanks I saw kabc but never thought of looking in there. I thought it was some kind of spelling program. However now that you mention it, I should just have used find/grep to search for a known email address. From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 21 13:27:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Peter George) Date: Fri Feb 21 13:27:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] UKUUG Linux Developers Conference 2003 Message-ID: UmVtaW5kZXIgdGhhdCB0aGlzIHllYXJzIFVLVVVHIExpbnV4IERldmVsb3BlcnMgQ29uZmVyZW5j ZSB3aWxsIGJlIGF0IEdlb3JnZSBXYXRzb25zIENvbGxlZ2UgaW4gRWRpbmJ1cmdoIFRodXJzZGF5 IDMxc3QgSnVseSAtIFN1bmRheSAzcmQgQXVndXN0Lg0KIA0KaHR0cDovL3d3dy51a3V1Zy5vcmcv ZXZlbnRzL2xpbnV4MjAwMy8NCiANClBsZWFzZSBub3RlIHRoZSBjYWxsIGZvciBwYXBlcnMgZGVh ZGxpbmUgb2YgTWFyY2ggMTZ0aCwgaXQgd291bGQgYmUgZ3JlYXQgdG8gaGF2ZSBzb21lIHRhbGtz IGZyb20gdGhlIFNjb3R0aXNoIExpbnV4IGRldmVsb3BlciBjb21tdW5pdHkuDQogDQpDb25mZXJl bmNlIHByZXBhcmF0aW9uIGlzIGJlaW5nIGNvb3JkaW5hdGVkIG9uIHRoZSBVS1VVRyBMMjAwMyBs aXN0LCB0byB3aGljaCB5b3UgY2FuIHN1YnNjcmliZSBieSBzZW5kaW5nICdzdWJzY3JpYmUgbGlu dXgyMDAzJyB0byBtYWpvcmRvbW9AdWt1dWcub3JnIA0KIA0KVGhlcmUgYXJlIHJlZ3VsYXIgY29v cmRpbmF0aW9uIG1lZXRpbmdzIGJlaW5nIGhlbGQgaW4gRWRpbmJ1cmdoIGlmIHlvdSBoYXZlIHRp bWUgdG8gdm9sdW50ZWVyLiBUaGUgbmV4dCBvbmUgaXMgb24gVHVlc2RheSA0dGggTWFyY2ggMjA6 MDAtMjE6MzAgYXQgTmV0IFJlc291cmNlcyBMdGQgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5uZXRyZXNvdXJjZXMuY28u dWsvY29udGFjdC5odG1sDQogDQpSZWdhcmRzLA0KIA0KUA0KIA0KLS0NClBldGVyIEdlb3JnZQ0K VHJhaW5pbmcgTWFuYWdlcg0KTmV0IFJlc291cmNlcyBMdGQsIDI2IFBhbG1lcnN0b24gUGxhY2Us IEVkaW5idXJnaCwgRUgxMiA1QUwNClQ6ICs0NCAxMzEgNDc3IDcxMjcgIEY6ICs0NCAxMzEgNDc3 IDcxMjYgDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm5ldHJlc291cmNlcy5jby51aw0K From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 21 16:24:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Cameron Logie) Date: Fri Feb 21 16:24:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Distributed.net Update - A Friday afternoon call to action ;) Message-ID: <1711.192.168.3.20.1045844589.squirrel@mail2.intranet.rushbrookit.com> Hi all, Just a quick update on the ScotLUG Distributed.net RC5-72 key cracking, for those that are vagely interested. We (or I more specifically), have mangaged to get the team into 1041st place, which gives us a 1 in 7,427 chance that'll we'll win the money for the beer kitty. Remember that the individual that finds the key gets $1000 with the team getting $1000 too. That should buy a few rounds at least and possibly a portable distro server for the meetings. Even just a few more machines doing some background crunching would be greatly appreciated, so if you can spare some of your Friday afternoon (and some CPU cycles), please download the client for your machine and get cracking. :) Some URLs for you now; Check the current ScotLUG stats at http://stats.distributed.net/team/tmsummary.php?project_id=8&team=940186139 To see how the dosh gets dished out go to http://stats.distributed.net/misc/money.php?project_id=8 To download the clients for your platform go to http://distributed.net/download/clients.html To join the ScotLUG team, just configure the client with your email address, wait a few days for your info the appear on the stats page and join the team at http://stats.distributed.net/participant/pjointeam.php?team=940186139 That's all for now folks. I hope that the mere mention of prize money and beer stirs the soul. Have a good weekend. Regards, Cammy. -- Cameron Logie - Rushbrook IT Internet | Systems | Security Linux solutions for forward thinkers [W] http://www.rushbrookit.com/ [E] cameron.logie@rushbrookit.com [T] 0870 765 0620 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 21 17:00:03 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Miller) Date: Fri Feb 21 17:00:03 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. References: <1045809265.2811.1108.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E55EE04.BC23BD29@cis.strath.ac.uk> Ian Robertson wrote: > > hello > > I have a number of bits some folk may be able to use: > > 133 Processor & Motherboard inc 64Mb memory, cd reader, s3 graphics > card, and keyboard. > > 1 Abit BP6 twin processor motherboard inc 1 Celeron 400 processor. > > 2 hard disk drives: > > 1 x 3Gb Seagate > > 1 X 8Gb Quantum - needs low level formatting. > > All above free to good home, buyer collects/pays transit. Kit just south > of Aberdeen(Portlethen). > > I also have a spare HP 1100 Printer for which I am prepared to sell not much used - any offers? > I would love the double cpu board if its still up for grabs? Always wanted to play with one! :) From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 21 19:28:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Robertson) Date: Fri Feb 21 19:28:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. In-Reply-To: <3E55EE04.BC23BD29@cis.strath.ac.uk> References: <1045809265.2811.1108.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> <3E55EE04.BC23BD29@cis.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1045856560.2812.1140.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 09:14, David Miller wrote: > Ian Robertson wrote: > > > > hello > > > > I have a number of bits some folk may be able to use: > > > > 133 Processor & Motherboard inc 64Mb memory, cd reader, s3 graphics > > card, and keyboard. > > > > 1 Abit BP6 twin processor motherboard inc 1 Celeron 400 processor. > > > > 2 hard disk drives: > > > > 1 x 3Gb Seagate > > > > 1 X 8Gb Quantum - needs low level formatting. > > > > All above free to good home, buyer collects/pays transit. Kit just south > > of Aberdeen(Portlethen). > > > > I also have a spare HP 1100 Printer for which I am prepared to sell not much used - any offers? > > > > I would love the double cpu board if its still up for grabs? > > Always wanted to play with one! :) > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Hello Give us a phone. there is one celeron processor on board. I have another and I feel it still outperforms the single processor of many times faster? Regards Ian -- Ian Robertson Specialist Skating Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Feb 21 19:38:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Allan Bruce) Date: Fri Feb 21 19:38:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. References: <1045809265.2811.1108.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <02ee01c2d9e0$a87fe190$0100a8c0@Picard> How much are you looking for the printer? Cheers Allan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Robertson" To: Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:35 AM Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. > hello > > I have a number of bits some folk may be able to use: > > 133 Processor & Motherboard inc 64Mb memory, cd reader, s3 graphics > card, and keyboard. > > 1 Abit BP6 twin processor motherboard inc 1 Celeron 400 processor. > > 2 hard disk drives: > > 1 x 3Gb Seagate > > 1 X 8Gb Quantum - needs low level formatting. > > All above free to good home, buyer collects/pays transit. Kit just south > of Aberdeen(Portlethen). > > I also have a spare HP 1100 Printer for which I am prepared to sell not much used - any offers? > > Regards > > Ian > > -- > Ian Robertson > > Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 > Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Feb 22 19:01:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Robertson) Date: Sat Feb 22 19:01:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. In-Reply-To: <02ee01c2d9e0$a87fe190$0100a8c0@Picard> References: <1045809265.2811.1108.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> <02ee01c2d9e0$a87fe190$0100a8c0@Picard> Message-ID: <1045941334.8069.1151.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 19:37, Allan Bruce wrote: > How much are you looking for the printer? > Cheers > Allan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Robertson" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:35 AM > Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. > > > > hello > > > > I have a number of bits some folk may be able to use: > > > > 133 Processor & Motherboard inc 64Mb memory, cd reader, s3 graphics > > card, and keyboard. > > > > 1 Abit BP6 twin processor motherboard inc 1 Celeron 400 processor. > > > > 2 hard disk drives: > > > > 1 x 3Gb Seagate > > > > 1 X 8Gb Quantum - needs low level formatting. > > > > All above free to good home, buyer collects/pays transit. Kit just south > > of Aberdeen(Portlethen). > > > > I also have a spare HP 1100 Printer for which I am prepared to sell not > much used - any offers? > > > > Regards > > > > Ian > > > > -- > > Ian Robertson > > > > Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 > > Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Scottish mailing list > > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Hello make me a sendsible offer. printer still on original toner - not much used. Regards Ian -- Ian Robertson Specialist Skating Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Feb 22 19:13:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Robertson) Date: Sat Feb 22 19:13:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1045942073.2812.1158.camel@sskatings.demon.co.uk> On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 07:59, Ben Thorp wrote: > > I'd be interested in one or other of the harddrives and the mobo+processor > - although I have very little exp (ie none) with twin boards - I am > assuming it is fully Linux compat, and would I be able to slot it nicely > into a standard ATX case. > > Ben Thorp > Hitachi Global Storage Technologies Support Centre > ibm.com Service Centre, EMEA > Tel: 0870-010 2866 > Ext: 69688 > > Visit our ibm.com Web sites: > External: http://www.ibm.com > Internal: http://w3.emea.ibm.com/ssc > > > > Ian Robertson > o.uk> cc: > Sent by: Subject: [Scottish] Free to a good home. > scottish-admin@mailman > .lug.org.uk > > > 21/02/03 06:35 > Please respond to > scottish > > > > > > hello > > I have a number of bits some folk may be able to use: > > 133 Processor & Motherboard inc 64Mb memory, cd reader, s3 graphics > card, and keyboard. > > 1 Abit BP6 twin processor motherboard inc 1 Celeron 400 processor. > > 2 hard disk drives: > > 1 x 3Gb Seagate > > 1 X 8Gb Quantum - needs low level formatting. > > All above free to good home, buyer collects/pays transit. Kit just south > of Aberdeen(Portlethen). > > I also have a spare HP 1100 Printer for which I am prepared to sell not > much used - any offers? > > Regards > > Ian > > -- > Ian Robertson > > Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 > Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish Give us a phone 1st come 1st served. Several people want the Abit board. Both drives and cabinet mboard, processor still available. Regards ian -- Ian Robertson Specialist Skating Tel +44 (0)1224 624811 Tel/Fax +44 (0)1224 781326 From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 08:38:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Mon Feb 24 08:38:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Sharing a Linux Proxy Server across networks Message-ID: <200302240808.h1O88fL19844@server.martindominic.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------1046074121 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Group I have a simple query here that someone might be able to help me with. I have a lInux Server (SuSE) with Squid running on 192.168.10.1.. I have windows clients that access the outside world thru' the proxy but would now like to split the clients into three separate networks.. I know I can just change the workgroup name but want to be able to hide all services on each of the three networks but still allow access to all thru'' the proxy server.. is this possible without compromising the integrity of the individual win networks.. man thanks for any help and advice apostolus ----------1046074121-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 08:56:03 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Neil MacColl) Date: Mon Feb 24 08:56:03 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Sharing a Linux Proxy Server across networks References: <200302240808.h1O88fL19844@server.martindominic.com> Message-ID: <008201c2dbe2$bbad8c00$506464c4@dogmatix> What services are you looking to hide? Maby I'm wrong but would you not need to stick each workgroup on a different network, maby have a linux router between them? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: [Scottish] Sharing a Linux Proxy Server across networks > Hi Group > > I have a simple query here that someone might be able to help me with. I have a lInux Server (SuSE) with Squid running on 192.168.10.1.. I have windows clients that access the outside world thru' the proxy but would now like to split the clients into three separate networks.. I know I can just change the workgroup name but want to be able to hide all services on each of the three networks but still allow access to all thru'' the proxy server.. is this possible without compromising the integrity of the individual win networks.. > > man thanks for any help and advice > apostolus From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 09:20:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Gordon Pearce) Date: Mon Feb 24 09:20:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Sharing a Linux Proxy Server across networks In-Reply-To: <200302240808.h1O88fL19844@server.martindominic.com> References: <200302240808.h1O88fL19844@server.martindominic.com> Message-ID: <1046078377.1004.9.camel@gordon> On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 08:08, apostolus@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > Hi Group > > I have a simple query here that someone might be able to help me with. I have a lInux Server (SuSE) with Squid running on 192.168.10.1.. I have windows clients that access the outside world thru' the proxy but would now like to split the clients into three separate networks.. I know I can just change the workgroup name but want to be able to hide all services on each of the three networks but still allow access to all thru'' the proxy server.. is this possible without compromising the integrity of the individual win networks.. > > man thanks for any help and advice > apostolus I believe you could set up three different subnets, like 192.168.10.x, 192.168.11.x and 192.168.12.x and alias the "internal" interface with aliases for these. -- Gordon Pearce From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 09:34:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (willie fleming) Date: Mon Feb 24 09:34:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] This months meeting ** with new added tea & coffee ** ** including mystery celebrity guest ** Message-ID: <200302240929.25030.slug@itscotland.demon.co.uk> February's meeting will be in the usual place...... CS Common Room, Floor 11, Livingstone Tower, Strathclyde Univ --- follow the penguin signs at the slightly earlier time ......... 7:15 PM so we can enjoy a cup of tea or coffee, kindly provided by Kenny Duffus. Bring your own bikkies. on the usual day....... last Thursday of the month which happens to be the 27th this time. We have one confirmed speaker, Martin McCarthy on the care and feeding of regular expressions and a yet-to-be-confirmed special celebrity surprise.. There will also be a general Q&A session. Any other volunteers for a short talk are very welcome also (if we can squeeze anyone else into what promises to be an eventful evening) Following the "formal" part of the meeting, we will go to the Counting House George Sq from about 9pm onwards for further discussion and treatment of thirst-related problems. Everybody welcome, bring a friend if you have one. If you have several, bring more than one. Kenny has a lot of teabags and he is determined that none of them will be drowned in vain. For those who haven't been before, here's the maps Livvy Tower -- just at the "O" in Richmond St http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?X=259750&Y=665500&width=700&height=400&client=public&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&scale=5000&advanced=&multimap.x=278&multimap.y=266 and the Counting House is at the SW corner of George Square http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?X=259250&Y=665500&width=700&height=400&client=public&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&scale=5000&advanced=&multimap.x=279&multimap.y=274 enter by the George Sq door and look for the geeks with the fluffy penguin. PS Can someone remember to bring a fluffy penguin this month? PPS Don't forget your autograph books!!! -- Best Regards Willie Fleming willie@itscotland.demon.co.uk From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 09:44:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Paul Millar) Date: Mon Feb 24 09:44:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Sharing a Linux Proxy Server across networks In-Reply-To: <200302240808.h1O88fL19844@server.martindominic.com> Message-ID: Hi Apostolus, On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 apostolus@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > I have a simple query here that someone might be able to help me with. > I have a lInux Server (SuSE) with Squid running on 192.168.10.1.. I > have windows clients that access the outside world thru' the proxy but > would now like to split the clients into three separate networks.. I > know I can just change the workgroup name but want to be able to hide > all services on each of the three networks but still allow access to all > thru'' the proxy server.. is this possible without compromising the > integrity of the individual win networks.. In principle, yes. You can alias a single physical interface (eth0, for example) to multiple IP addresses; but your last sentence is a bit worrying. If your after some "integrity" (i.e. security) you might have to think this through a bit. IP addresses are assign at "layer 3" of the OSI model. At layer 2 (MAC), IP addresses are more like suggestions. For example, a malicious or badly configured machine will potentially "see" the other machines and could cause problems. To reduce this effect, you can: use switches instead of hubs - this effectively makes the network topology point-to-point (rather than shared-bus). A badly configured machine would only see network-broadcast and multicast packets. If those broadcast packets were RIPs, for example, this could still cause problems. use virtual LANs (aka VLANs) - this simulates the effect of having separate wiring for each virtual lan, making the three LANs completely separate (provided your switch supports this). The good news is Linux supports network aliases via 802.1Q VLAN tagging. If you can configure your switch to send the encoded packets to the Linux box, then it can then straddle the three VLANs and act as a common service to the three. HTH Paul. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Particle Physics (Theory & Experimental) Groups Dr Paul Millar Department of Physics and Astronomy paulm@astro.gla.ac.uk University of Glasgow paulm@physics.gla.ac.uk Glasgow, G12 8QQ, Scotland http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/paulm +44 (0)141 330 4717 A54C A9FC 6A77 1664 2E4E 90E3 FFD2 704B BF0F 03E9 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 09:58:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Colin McKinnon) Date: Mon Feb 24 09:58:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Sharing a Linux Proxy Server across networks In-Reply-To: <200302240808.h1O88fL19844@server.martindominic.com> References: <200302240808.h1O88fL19844@server.martindominic.com> Message-ID: <3E59EBFD.7080907@wew.co.uk> apostolus@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: >I have a simple query here that someone might be able to help me with. I have a lInux Server (SuSE) with Squid running on 192.168.10.1.. I have windows clients that access the outside world thru' the proxy but would now like to split the clients into three separate networks.. I know I can just change the workgroup name but want to be able to hide all services on each of the three networks but still allow access to all thru'' the proxy server.. is this possible without compromising the integrity of the individual win networks.. > Yes. You could keep the same IP addresses and set the scope id (1). Or you could use three ip subnets and set up ip aliases on the interface of the proxy (2). Or you could use subnets and three seperate network cards (3). Or you could set up routers to converge the subnets onto the proxy (4). If I spent some more time thinking about it, there are probably other ways of doing it as well (OK so (1) is a bit silly). Are they running on the same phyiscal ethernet segment? Are individual machines likely to move between subnets? Is each sub-net to be completely isolated apart from the shared proxy (no common printers / PDCs / mail server / ...?) ? Is network bandwidth an issue? Number of clients? Colin From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 11:10:13 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Mon Feb 24 11:10:13 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Sharing a Linux Proxy Server across networks Message-ID: <200302241040.h1OAeQh20777@server.martindominic.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------1046083226 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yup.. each subnet would need to be isolated except for the proxy.. in terms of clients on each sub.. a max of 3 at any one time and once in place they will remain static.. i would propose to put them on the same ethernet segment unless this is not such a good idea.. Colin McKinnon wrote .. > apostolus@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > > >I have a simple query here that someone might be able to help me with. > I have a lInux Server (SuSE) with Squid running on 192.168.10.1.. I have > windows clients that access the outside world thru' the proxy but would > now like to split the clients into three separate networks.. I know I > can just change the workgroup name but want to be able to hide all services > on each of the three networks but still allow access to all thru'' the > proxy server.. is this possible without compromising the integrity of > the individual win networks.. > > > Yes. You could keep the same IP addresses and set the scope id (1). Or > you could use three ip subnets and set up ip aliases on the interface of > the proxy (2). Or you could use subnets and three seperate network cards > (3). Or you could set up routers to converge the subnets onto the proxy > (4). If I spent some more time thinking about it, there are probably > other ways of doing it as well (OK so (1) is a bit silly). Are they > running on the same phyiscal ethernet segment? Are individual machines > likely to move between subnets? Is each sub-net to be completely > isolated apart from the shared proxy (no common printers / PDCs / mail > server / ...?) ? Is network bandwidth an issue? Number of clients? > > Colin > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ----------1046083226-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 11:40:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Mon Feb 24 11:40:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Scottish User Group Message-ID: Hello, New to Linux ....... and looking at putting it in to some extent within Standard Life - I notice there is a user group in Glasgow usually the last Thursday of the month. Any of you know if the meet is ok for this Thursday in the usual place (as advertised on the website for the LUG). Any info you have would be greatly appreciated Many thanks Paul For more information on Standard Life, visit our website http://www.standardlife.com/ The Standard Life Assurance Company, Standard Life House, 30 Lothian Road, Edinburgh EH1 2DH, is registered in Scotland (No. SZ4) and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Tel: 0131 225 2552 - calls may be recorded or monitored. This confidential e-mail is for the addressee only. If received in error, do not retain/copy/disclose it without our consent and please return it to us. We virus scan and monitor all e-mails but are not responsible for any damage caused by a virus or alteration by a third party after it is sent. From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 11:51:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Colin McKinnon) Date: Mon Feb 24 11:51:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Scottish User Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E5A0665.5090508@wew.co.uk> paul_w_cormack@standardlife.com wrote: >Any of you know if the meet is ok for this Thursday in the usual place (as >advertised on the website for the LUG). > > Yes, details sent off list. Colin From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 13:05:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Colin McKinnon) Date: Mon Feb 24 13:05:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Sharing a Linux Proxy Server across networks In-Reply-To: <200302241040.h1OAeQh20777@server.martindominic.com> References: <200302241040.h1OAeQh20777@server.martindominic.com> Message-ID: <3E5A17F0.4080005@wew.co.uk> apostolus@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: >yup.. each subnet would need to be isolated except for the proxy.. in terms of clients on each sub.. a max of 3 at any one time and once in place they will remain static.. i would propose to put them on the same ethernet segment unless this is not such a good idea.. > > Then the easiest solution is to set up three aliases on the proxies ethernet card e.g. ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.252 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.2.252 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.3.252 netmask 255.255.255.0 Remember you'll need to overhaul your squid acls to allow all the clients access. What is it that you're trying to acheive by splitting up the client base? Colin From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Feb 24 14:35:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Mon Feb 24 14:35:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Sharing a Linux Proxy Server across networks Message-ID: <200302241405.h1OE5b821763@server.martindominic.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------1046095537 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a shared broadband connection Colin.. it's a small business environment that could make use of one connection at a relatively low cost split three ways.. each net though would have to be hidden.. thanks for your help.. now time to try it.. Colin McKinnon wrote .. > apostolus@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > > >yup.. each subnet would need to be isolated except for the proxy.. in > terms of clients on each sub.. a max of 3 at any one time and once in > place they will remain static.. i would propose to put them on the same > ethernet segment unless this is not such a good idea.. > > > > > Then the easiest solution is to set up three aliases on the proxies > ethernet card e.g. > > ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.252 netmask 255.255.255.0 > ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.2.252 netmask 255.255.255.0 > ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.3.252 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > Remember you'll need to overhaul your squid acls to allow all the > clients access. What is it that you're trying to acheive by splitting up > the client base? > > Colin > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish ----------1046095537-- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 15:13:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Allan Bruce) Date: Tue Feb 25 15:13:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] 2 Sound cards Message-ID: <001601c2dce0$3aad0dc0$0100a8c0@Picard> Hi there, I have 2 soundcards in my RH8 machine and typically, RH uses the wrong one as default! Somebody told me a while back, how to select the sound card but I have forgotten, could somebody please refresh my mind? Thanks Allan From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 15:26:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Paul Millar) Date: Tue Feb 25 15:26:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] 2 Sound cards In-Reply-To: <001601c2dce0$3aad0dc0$0100a8c0@Picard> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Allan Bruce wrote: > I have 2 soundcards in my RH8 machine and typically, RH uses the wrong one > as default! > Somebody told me a while back, how to select the sound card but I have > forgotten, could somebody please refresh my mind? AFAIK, its stored in the /etc/modules.conf with a line like: alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio There may be a RedHat GUI to edit this file, but you should be able to just use vi (or emacs, pico, ...) HTH Paul. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Particle Physics (Theory & Experimental) Groups Dr Paul Millar Department of Physics and Astronomy paulm@astro.gla.ac.uk University of Glasgow paulm@physics.gla.ac.uk Glasgow, G12 8QQ, Scotland http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/paulm +44 (0)141 330 4717 A54C A9FC 6A77 1664 2E4E 90E3 FFD2 704B BF0F 03E9 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 16:07:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ben Thorp) Date: Tue Feb 25 16:07:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Anyone got...... Message-ID: Now that everyone has shiny new WLAN cards, does anyone have a PCMCIA ethernet NIC going cheap? (*cheep cheep*) Ben Thorp ben_thorp@bigfoot.com thorpb@uk.ibm.com From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 16:24:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Allan Bruce) Date: Tue Feb 25 16:24:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] 2 Sound cards in a linux box References: <200302241405.h1OE5b821763@server.martindominic.com> Message-ID: <001d01c2dcdd$6f881e70$0100a8c0@Picard> Hi there, I have 2 sound cards in my machine and unfortunately for me RedHat 8 defaults to the wrong one. Somebody told me before how to select the card but I cant remember how. Could somebody please refresh my memory? Thanks Allan From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 16:39:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Tue Feb 25 16:39:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Media Player Message-ID: <1046191088.3e5b9bf03a510@netmail.pipex.net> What media player does everyobdy use? I am hoping to find one that will play divx/xvid/vcd/svcd/mpeg2 Is this too much to ask? Thanks Allan From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 17:03:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Paul Millar) Date: Tue Feb 25 17:03:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Media Player In-Reply-To: <1046191088.3e5b9bf03a510@netmail.pipex.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 allanmb@dsl.pipex.com wrote: > What media player does everyobdy use? > I am hoping to find one that will play divx/xvid/vcd/svcd/mpeg2 > Is this too much to ask? I use mplayer and xine (from CVS -- living on the edge!). I think both support vcd and divx don't know about the other formats. Paul. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Particle Physics (Theory & Experimental) Groups Dr Paul Millar Department of Physics and Astronomy paulm@astro.gla.ac.uk University of Glasgow paulm@physics.gla.ac.uk Glasgow, G12 8QQ, Scotland http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/paulm +44 (0)141 330 4717 A54C A9FC 6A77 1664 2E4E 90E3 FFD2 704B BF0F 03E9 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 17:08:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Gavin McCord) Date: Tue Feb 25 17:08:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Media Player In-Reply-To: <1046191088.3e5b9bf03a510@netmail.pipex.net> References: <1046191088.3e5b9bf03a510@netmail.pipex.net> Message-ID: <1046192004.590.6.camel@hal> On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 16:38, allanmb@dsl.pipex.com wrote: > > What media player does everyobdy use? > I am hoping to find one that will play divx/xvid/vcd/svcd/mpeg2 > Is this too much to ask? > Thanks > Allan > > mplayer - http://mplayerhq.hu rocks. From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 17:17:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Martin McCarthy) Date: Tue Feb 25 17:17:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Anyone got...... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030225170317.GA18084@ancient-scotland.co.uk> > Now that everyone has shiny new WLAN cards, does anyone have a PCMCIA > ethernet NIC going cheap? (*cheep cheep*) If I remember to bring it along on Thursday, you can have a 3com 3C589D. But don't come crying to me if all the cool kids laugh and point! M -- Martin McCarthy /\ http://www.ancient-scotland.co.uk / mplayer seems to be GREAT (says everyone) (but i only got halfway in installing it because the README is a bit bare - will make a second attempt when more time and courage) ---------- From: allanmb@dsl.pipex.com [SMTP:allanmb@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 25 February 2003 16:38 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Scottish] Media Player What media player does everyobdy use? I am hoping to find one that will play divx/xvid/vcd/svcd/mpeg2 Is this too much to ask? Thanks Allan _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish *********************************************************************************** This email and any accompanying files are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, copy or disclose the content. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender by return email and delete this message. Thankyou for your co-operation. ************************************************************************************* From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 18:52:42 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Allan Bruce) Date: Tue Feb 25 18:52:42 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Media Player References: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98671@nationalsavings.uk.com> Message-ID: <007f01c2dcfe$f7135b40$0100a8c0@Picard> I cant get on to the media player web page, how big is the download? Thanks Allan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: RE: [Scottish] Media Player > mplayer seems to be GREAT (says everyone) > (but i only got halfway in installing it because the README is a bit bare - > will make a second attempt when more time and courage) > > > ---------- > From: allanmb@dsl.pipex.com [SMTP:allanmb@dsl.pipex.com] > Sent: 25 February 2003 16:38 > To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > Subject: [Scottish] Media Player > > > What media player does everyobdy use? > I am hoping to find one that will play divx/xvid/vcd/svcd/mpeg2 > Is this too much to ask? > Thanks > Allan > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > **************************************************************************** ******* > This email and any accompanying files are confidential. If you are > not the intended recipient you must not use, copy or disclose the > content. If you have received this email in error please contact the > sender by return email and delete this message. > Thankyou for your co-operation. > **************************************************************************** ********* > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 19:42:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mark Marsella) Date: Tue Feb 25 19:42:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Media Player In-Reply-To: <007f01c2dcfe$f7135b40$0100a8c0@Picard> References: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98671@nationalsavings.uk.com> <007f01c2dcfe$f7135b40$0100a8c0@Picard> Message-ID: <200302251941.59167.mark@lismark.org> On Tuesday 25 February 2003 6:51 pm, Allan Bruce wrote: > I cant get on to the media player web page, how big is the download? > Thanks > Allan Its not that large, but there should be a binary somewhere for your distro. -- Thanks Mark Marsella From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 21:05:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Tue Feb 25 21:05:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Media Player Message-ID: <1046190689.3e5b9a6113e73@netmail.pipex.net> What media player does everyobdy use? I am hoping to find one that will play divx/xvid/vcd/svcd/mpeg2 Is this too much to ask? Thanks Allan From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 21:05:08 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Tue Feb 25 21:05:08 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Media Player In-Reply-To: <1046191088.3e5b9bf03a510@netmail.pipex.net> Message-ID: I use mplayer, both under linux and mac os X. works pretty fawlessly on every format i've thrown at it. although, i havent tried an svcd with it. should work though On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 04:38 PM, wrote: > > What media player does everyobdy use? > I am hoping to find one that will play divx/xvid/vcd/svcd/mpeg2 > Is this too much to ask? > Thanks > Allan > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 22:57:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Phil Deane) Date: Tue Feb 25 22:57:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Media Player In-Reply-To: <1046192004.590.6.camel@hal> References: <1046191088.3e5b9bf03a510@netmail.pipex.net> <1046192004.590.6.camel@hal> Message-ID: <200302252256.52959.phil@miracleexpress.force9.co.uk> On Tuesday 25 February 2003 4:53 pm, Gavin McCord wrote: > On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 16:38, allanmb@dsl.pipex.com wrote: > > What media player does everyobdy use? > > I am hoping to find one that will play divx/xvid/vcd/svcd/mpeg2 > > Is this too much to ask? > > Thanks > > Allan > > mplayer - http://mplayerhq.hu rocks. I have to admit I like Xine, Never tried it on Divx, but plays VCDs perfe= ctly,=20 Mplayer for me has never worked right, seems very clunky, and I have a lo= t of=20 problems getting good sound on it, or any sound in certain cirscumstances= =2E=20 All the Facia's for it are a bit complicated wereas Xine is simple and wo= rks --=20 Phil Deane http://www.MiracleExpress.force9.co.uk From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Feb 25 23:46:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Irvine) Date: Tue Feb 25 23:46:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Anyone got...... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1046212855.31901.257.camel@Iolaus> On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 16:05, Ben Thorp wrote: > Now that everyone has shiny new WLAN cards, does anyone have a PCMCIA > ethernet NIC going cheap? (*cheep cheep*) > Not personally, but have a look at www.corega.com, they were the mutts nuts for me last year, very cheap and very good stuff imho. They are pretty good at making sure there stuff works with linux too. Also the netgear FA11 adaptor is reasonably cheap and works with the tulip pcmcia driver. D > Ben Thorp > ben_thorp@bigfoot.com > thorpb@uk.ibm.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 26 09:13:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Michael Cameron) Date: Wed Feb 26 09:13:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Anyone got...... In-Reply-To: <1046212855.31901.257.camel@Iolaus> Message-ID: > >Not personally, but have a look at www.corega.com, they were the mutts >nuts for me last year, very cheap and very good stuff imho. > Or maybe www.corega.co.uk ? :) From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Feb 26 23:44:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Neil McKillop) Date: Wed Feb 26 23:44:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] gpg key signing Message-ID: <1046303008.29743.27.camel@sherkan> Hi everybody, A few of the #scotlug'ers and I have decided at the last minute to bring our key information to the meeting for an informal key signing session. i.e. key-size[and type], hexid, userid, fingerprint. e.g. 1024D, 90850BD5, "Neil Mckillop ", 314D CCF7 0663 B5FA FAC4 A829 F1FD 77F2 9085 0BD5 and some sort of photo identification: a passport or drivers licence probably. If anybody else would like to join in, just bring the above information with you. I plan to hold a formal key signing next month (March 27th) to the guidelines written here, http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/gpg-party.html. If you have any advice or recommendations regarding organising the key signing I'd like to hear them, this will be the first I've ran and I'd like it to go smoothly. If you'd like to take part in the organised key signing, could you please send your public key to me at trust@nvmtech.co.uk before March 27th and I'll prepare key signing forms etc If you don't have a gpg key yet or you want to know more there is a good FAQ on the offical website, http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/faqs.html Neil. From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 27 14:34:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Allan Bruce) Date: Thu Feb 27 14:34:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] Media Player References: <1046191088.3e5b9bf03a510@netmail.pipex.net> <1046192004.590.6.camel@hal> <200302252256.52959.phil@miracleexpress.force9.co.uk> Message-ID: <004701c2de6d$3a0b0f00$0100a8c0@Picard> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Deane" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [Scottish] Media Player > On Tuesday 25 February 2003 4:53 pm, Gavin McCord wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 16:38, allanmb@dsl.pipex.com wrote: > > > What media player does everyobdy use? > > > I am hoping to find one that will play divx/xvid/vcd/svcd/mpeg2 > > > Is this too much to ask? > > > Thanks > > > Allan > > > > mplayer - http://mplayerhq.hu rocks. > > I have to admit I like Xine, Never tried it on Divx, but plays VCDs perfectly, > Mplayer for me has never worked right, seems very clunky, and I have a lot of > problems getting good sound on it, or any sound in certain cirscumstances. > All the Facia's for it are a bit complicated wereas Xine is simple and works > > I tried mplayer from source - took about 4-5 minutes to compile :-o Anyway, it crashed while trying to use fullscreen mode, so I`ll give xine a shot. On another note, does anybody know how to make Linux use the extended ASCII character set? I have re-written my game (hexmine) in c++ and under windows I used some chars in the range 128-255 but under standard shell these all come out as '?'s. Thanks Allan From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 27 14:46:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (bob renshaw) Date: Thu Feb 27 14:46:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] ditto max tape drive Message-ID: <200302271447.48712.bob@halkirk.org.uk> has anyone got a ditto max tape drive to work under linux. Its a device=20 connected to the printer port. bob From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 27 15:20:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Drake, IT, CIR, SE Dunbartonshire) Date: Thu Feb 27 15:20:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] CPU Testing Message-ID: I'm currently setting up MRTG to graph my CPU usage, but I need something to help prove what I've done works, anyone got a short piece of C code that'll push the gas peddle on my Linux box and keep the cpu cycles high for a few mins? Rgds, Ian PS I'm basically doing :- cat /proc/stat | /usr/bin/awk '/cpu /{print $2+$3; print $2+$3+$4; print "quite some time"; print "home"} in my MRTG conf file From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 27 15:23:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Elwell, AD (Andrew)) Date: Thu Feb 27 15:23:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] CPU Testing Message-ID: > help prove what I've done works, anyone got a short piece of > C code that'll > push the gas peddle on my Linux box and keep the cpu cycles > high for a few > mins? setiathome, distributed.net, hmm, just 1 cpu? :-) Andrew -- HPXc UK National Supercomputer facility From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 27 15:26:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Paul Millar) Date: Thu Feb 27 15:26:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] CPU Testing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For an interesting IO/cpu job: find /usr -type f -print|while read f; do md5sum "$f" >/dev/null 2>&1; done For CPU bound, do md5sum /dev/zero For IO bound, do dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null Torturing your computer in three lines ;^) Paul. On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Ian Drake, IT, CIR, SE Dunbartonshire wrote: > I'm currently setting up MRTG to graph my CPU usage, but I need something to > help prove what I've done works, anyone got a short piece of C code that'll > push the gas peddle on my Linux box and keep the cpu cycles high for a few > mins? > > Rgds, > > Ian > > PS I'm basically doing :- > > cat /proc/stat | /usr/bin/awk '/cpu /{print $2+$3; print $2+$3+$4; print > "quite some time"; print "home"} > in my MRTG conf file > > > > _______________________________________________ > Scottish mailing list > Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Particle Physics (Theory & Experimental) Groups Dr Paul Millar Department of Physics and Astronomy paulm@astro.gla.ac.uk University of Glasgow paulm@physics.gla.ac.uk Glasgow, G12 8QQ, Scotland http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/paulm +44 (0)141 330 4717 A54C A9FC 6A77 1664 2E4E 90E3 FFD2 704B BF0F 03E9 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 27 15:27:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Michael Cameron) Date: Thu Feb 27 15:27:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] CPU Testing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > keep the cpu cycles high for a few mins > Install XP? ;0) MC From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 27 15:37:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Gordon Pearce) Date: Thu Feb 27 15:37:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] CPU Testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1046360212.3093.0.camel@gordon> On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 15:15, Ian Drake, IT, CIR, SE Dunbartonshire wrote: > I'm currently setting up MRTG to graph my CPU usage, but I need something to > help prove what I've done works, anyone got a short piece of C code that'll > push the gas peddle on my Linux box and keep the cpu cycles high for a few > mins? > > Rgds, > > Ian > shell (`$0 & $0 &') From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 27 16:04:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Iain Conochie) Date: Thu Feb 27 16:04:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] CPU Testing References: Message-ID: <3E5E2F26.5050906@uk.colt.net> Ian Drake, IT, CIR, SE Dunbartonshire wrote: >I'm currently setting up MRTG to graph my CPU usage, but I need something to >help prove what I've done works, anyone got a short piece of C code that'll >push the gas peddle on my Linux box and keep the cpu cycles high for a few >mins? > > Don't run this on a production box!!!! int main () { fork() } That should stress your box to the level of killing it :) >Rgds, > >Ian > >PS I'm basically doing :- > >cat /proc/stat | /usr/bin/awk '/cpu /{print $2+$3; print $2+$3+$4; print >"quite some time"; print "home"} >in my MRTG conf file > > > >_______________________________________________ >Scottish mailing list >Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk >http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish > > > From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 27 16:34:01 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Huard, Elise - D C&W Consultant) Date: Thu Feb 27 16:34:01 2003 Subject: [Scottish] CPU Testing Message-ID: <1BAE6E8E523ED51197BF00508BA38E3D02F98697@nationalsavings.uk.com> doesn't work here excuse my infinite lack of knowledge, but is that Perl ? (would explain it not working) What does it do ? ---------- From: Gordon Pearce [SMTP:gordonjcp@gjcp.net] Sent: 27 February 2003 15:37 To: scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Scottish] CPU Testing On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 15:15, Ian Drake, IT, CIR, SE Dunbartonshire wrote: > I'm currently setting up MRTG to graph my CPU usage, but I need something to > help prove what I've done works, anyone got a short piece of C code that'll > push the gas peddle on my Linux box and keep the cpu cycles high for a few > mins? > > Rgds, > > Ian > shell (`$0 & $0 &') _______________________________________________ Scottish mailing list Scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scottish *********************************************************************************** This email and any accompanying files are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, copy or disclose the content. 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How about: int main(void) { label: fork(); goto label; } Thanks, Allan -- Intel: We put the 'um...' in Pentium. From scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Feb 27 16:39:02 2003 From: scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk (Martin McCarthy) Date: Thu Feb 27 16:39:02 2003 Subject: [Scottish] CPU Testing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030227163804.GA2659@ancient-scotland.co.uk> > I'm currently setting up MRTG to graph my CPU usage, but I need something to > help prove what I've done works, anyone got a short piece of C code that'll > push the gas peddle on my Linux box and keep the cpu cycles high for a few > mins? Since we all get to post our favourites :-), you can do this at a shell prompt (bash, ksh, zsh, Bourne shell - dunno about csh): while(true) do : ; done and that should give you 100% CPU usage but no danger of actually hanging your machine with fork bombs. M -- Martin McCarthy /\ http://www.ancient-scotland.co.uk /