From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 23 00:36:00 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight)
Date: Thu Aug 22 23:36:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] New list
Message-ID: <200208222241.38631.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
Looks like the migration to Mailman has been completed.=20
I'm going to spend a while playing with the configuration, so bear with u=
s for=20
a day or two.
The new list doesn't appear to like HTML mail and marks it as spam so ple=
ase=20
turn off HTML mail when posting or expect to wait until I get around to=20
approving it.
Normal service will be resumed shortly ;)
Dominic.
From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 23 00:40:01 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (astraguy)
Date: Thu Aug 22 23:40:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:Install Day
Message-ID: <003001c249b2$a7d29f80$baddfea9@oemcomputer>
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in the libraries at Swadlincote and Burton-on-trent ,
You could also get in touch with Radio Derby and ask them=20
to put advertise your Install Day on the radio, =20
Not sure if any other radio station would do this for you ,
I would be able to put a couple of posters at the shop=20
I work at in Burton and a few flyers on the counter if=20
you think it might help,
Mike.
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Mike.
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From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 23 00:40:02 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (astraguy)
Date: Thu Aug 22 23:40:02 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:C++
Message-ID: <001901c249ba$9e7e0980$dc924c51@oemcomputer>
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Hello Dom,
Can you please tell me if you are still doing the C++=20
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Mike
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From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 23 00:40:02 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (astraguy)
Date: Thu Aug 22 23:40:02 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE: Install Day
Message-ID: <002201c249c4$1724caa0$dc924c51@oemcomputer>
Hello Members ,
I have been reading about your ideas for the Install
day and wondered if you had thought of putting a poster
in the libraries at Swadlincote and Burton-on-trent ,
You could also get in touch with Radio Derby and ask them
to put advertise your Install Day on the radio,
Not sure if any other radio station would do this for you ,
I would be able to put a couple of posters at the shop
I work at in Burton and a few flyers on the counter if
you think it might help,
Mike.
From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 23 08:18:00 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk)
Date: Fri Aug 23 07:18:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] New list
In-Reply-To: <200208222241.38631.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
Message-ID: <000601c24a6d$5c2cb640$0900a8c0@stakaron>
WOOHOO!
I finally only recieve 1 copy of Sderby, not 2!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk]On Behalf Of Dominic Knight
Sent: 22 August 2002 23:42
To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [Sderby] New list
Looks like the migration to Mailman has been completed.
I'm going to spend a while playing with the configuration, so bear with us
for
a day or two.
The new list doesn't appear to like HTML mail and marks it as spam so please
turn off HTML mail when posting or expect to wait until I get around to
approving it.
Normal service will be resumed shortly ;)
Dominic.
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From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 23 16:26:00 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (Mark Lewis)
Date: Fri Aug 23 15:26:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] [Announce] IMPORTANT: Mailing List Change
Message-ID: <200208230941080505.0750CE43@192.168.168.2>
Dear LUG.ORG.UK List Member,
This is an important announcement.
My name is Mark Lewis and I, alongside a small team of Admins run the
lug.org.uk server.
I am taking the opportunity to send this email to every list member to
advise of a change that happened last night.
As a little background, the present server was donated by a company called
Transtec, though we have a new and higher specification machine donated by
a company called Xinit Systems. What we are trying to do is migrate the
services from the Transtec machine to the new Xinit machine. The reason for
this has it's obvious benefits including performance and newer services.
One of the service benefits is the introduction of Mailman
(http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html) as the Mailing List
Manager on Xinit to replace Majordomo on Transtec, which has been a request
by many List Managers for many moons now. Alas and to this end, we took the
bulls by the horns and migrated things last night.
As part of this process you should have received an email from Mailman
giving posting instructions for your subscribed list(s), a password and a
URL for the web interface. This password is personal to you and allows you
as a list member to configure your preferences via the web interface and
unless your List Manager has switched it off, you will get confirmation of
this password from Mailman at the end of each month.
You may find a full listing of Mailman lists on the LUG server at
http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/
The other important fact to note is based upon posting. Under Majordomo you
were posting to $listsname@lists.lug.org.uk while from now and under
Mailman, you will need to use the syntax $listname@mailman.lug.org.uk (note
'lists' is now 'mailman'). We have updated Domain Name Services and the MTA
to reflect this, but you may experience problems in the interim if the
mailman.lug.org.uk hostname is not used.
Thank you for reading this mail and I hope you as a list member find the
features of Mailman a benefit.
One last thing before I go, other services will be changed shortly as well.
So, if you find anything spurious happening, please inform your List
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From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 23 16:26:01 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (Dave Coulson)
Date: Fri Aug 23 15:26:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:C++
References: <001901c249ba$9e7e0980$dc924c51@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <001101c24aa9$0cbc7140$b716883e@oemcomputer>
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Hi Mike
I am doing the C/C++ lessons and hope to complete C in October. If by =
popular demand I am asked to continue then we will C++ what we can do.
Cheers dave coulson
----- Original Message -----=20
From: astraguy=20
To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk=20
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: [Sderby] RE:C++
Hello Dom,
Can you please tell me if you are still doing the C++=20
programming lessons ,
Mike
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I am doing the C/C++ lessons and hope =
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what we=20
can do.
Cheers dave coulson
----- Original Message -----
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astraguy=20
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 =
10:02=20
AM
Subject: [Sderby] RE:C++
Hello Dom,
Can you please tell me if you are =
still doing the=20
C++
programming lessons ,
Mike
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From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 23 16:35:01 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight)
Date: Fri Aug 23 15:35:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] New list & no-mail
In-Reply-To: <000601c24a6d$5c2cb640$0900a8c0@stakaron>
References: <000601c24a6d$5c2cb640$0900a8c0@stakaron>
Message-ID: <200208230928.39084.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
On Friday 23 August 2002 06:21, auriga@aurigaonline.co.uk wrote:
> WOOHOO!
>
> I finally only recieve 1 copy of Sderby, not 2!!!
>
Well you did sign up thrice ;) (auriga/alan/mike)
I know why your sub to the projects list fails now, I set it up to delive=
r to=20
com instead of co.uk. Will change it later.
Dom
From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 23 21:51:00 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (astraguy)
Date: Fri Aug 23 20:51:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:C++
References: <001901c249ba$9e7e0980$dc924c51@oemcomputer> <001101c24aa9$0cbc7140$b716883e@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <005001c24a75$5dbea740$286a893e@oemcomputer>
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Hi Dave,
Thank you for your message, I have been programming in Delphi but I have =
not done much programming for about 18 months now, My Parents are now =
improving and I should have more time now to start again,And now I am =
hoping to use Linux instead of Windows I thought that maybe C/C+ was =
the way to go now, And maybe use the code in Windows or Linux if this is =
possible using a different compiler, I have at the moment SuSe 8.0 and =
Windows ME dual booting i have been having problems with dual booting my =
computer and decided to order a copy of Mandrake 8.2 complete with =
manuals and use this instead of SuSe , I have now found out the SuSe =
tech gave me the wrong information several weeks ago and now my computer =
is working ok I am not sure about putting Mandrake on has well, I am not =
sure if I should go for C++ or Visual C++ Can you please advice me I =
have a book on C and 2 books on C++ I have not bought the software yet =
with the compiler ,I have been reading about Borlands C++ and this maybe =
the right way for me ? What do you think please.
Cheers Mike
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dave Coulson=20
To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk=20
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:C++
Hi Mike
I am doing the C/C++ lessons and hope to complete C in October. If by =
popular demand I am asked to continue then we will C++ what we can do.
Cheers dave coulson
----- Original Message -----=20
From: astraguy=20
To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk=20
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: [Sderby] RE:C++
Hello Dom,
Can you please tell me if you are still doing the C++=20
programming lessons ,
Mike
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Hi Dave,
Thank you for your message, I have been =
programming=20
in Delphi but I have not done much programming for about 18 months now, =
My=20
Parents are now improving and I should have more time now to start =
again,And now=20
I am hoping to use Linux instead of Windows I thought that maybe =
C/C+ was=20
the way to go now, And maybe use the code in Windows or Linux if this is =
possible using a different compiler, I have at the moment SuSe 8.0 and =
Windows=20
ME dual booting i have been having problems with dual booting my =
computer and=20
decided to order a copy of Mandrake 8.2 complete with manuals and use =
this=20
instead of SuSe , I have now found out the SuSe tech gave me the wrong=20
information several weeks ago and now my computer is working ok I am not =
sure=20
about putting Mandrake on has well, I am not sure if I should go for C++ =
or=20
Visual C++ Can you please advice me I have a book on C and 2 books on =
C++ I have=20
not bought the software yet with the compiler ,I have been reading about =
Borlands C++ and this maybe the right way for me ? What do you think=20
please.
Cheers Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:=20
Dave Coulson
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 =
2:29=20
PM
Subject: Re: [Sderby] =
RE:C++
Hi Mike
I am doing the C/C++ lessons and hope =
to complete=20
C in October. If by popular demand I am asked to continue then we will =
C++=20
what we can do.
Cheers dave coulson
----- Original Message -----
From:=20
astraguy=20
Sent: Thursday, August 22, =
2002 10:02=20
AM
Subject: [Sderby] =
RE:C++
Hello Dom,
Can you please tell me if you are =
still doing=20
the C++
programming lessons ,
Mike
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From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 23 22:18:02 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight)
Date: Fri Aug 23 21:18:02 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Mail list - your options.
Message-ID: <200208232016.02113.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
You should all by now know we have changed our list. Here are some of the=
=20
options now available to you.
no mail: you can choose to not receive mail when you subscribe an address=
,=20
this is useful if you want to write from work and only receive mail at ho=
me.
ack: Receive an acknowledgement when you post to the list (automated rece=
ipt)
not metoo: Don't want to get copies of your own posts - click this one
Digest mode: you can also get our mail in a daily digest, or 30k of mail=20
whichever comes first.
hide: this hides the fact that you are subscribed from other people. poin=
tless=20
as you are all automatically hidden anyway.
We also archive mail. To view the archive visit=20
http://www.mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/sderby
to change your details visit http://www.mailman.lug.org.uk/listinfo/sderb=
y
One problem we may have is sending multiple mail to one domain. It is lik=
ely=20
that only one copy will be sent to the domain address in some cases.=20
Have fun,
Dominic.
From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 24 16:19:02 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (David Coulson)
Date: Sat Aug 24 15:19:02 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:C++
References: <001901c249ba$9e7e0980$dc924c51@oemcomputer> <001101c24aa9$0cbc7140$b716883e@oemcomputer> <005001c24a75$5dbea740$286a893e@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <3D67972E.A271ADFF@coulsn.freeserve.co.uk>
> astraguy wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
> Thank you for your message, I have been programming in Delphi but I
> have not done much programming for about 18 months now, My Parents are
> now improving and I should have more time now to start again,And now I
> am hoping to use Linux instead of Windows I thought that maybe C/C+
> was the way to go now, And maybe use the code in Windows or Linux if
> this is possible using a different compiler, I have at the moment SuSe
> 8.0 and Windows ME dual booting i have been having problems with dual
> booting my computer and decided to order a copy of Mandrake 8.2
> complete with manuals and use this instead of SuSe , I have now found
> out the SuSe tech gave me the wrong information several weeks ago and
> now my computer is working ok I am not sure about putting Mandrake on
> has well, I am not sure if I should go for C++ or Visual C++ Can you
> please advice me I have a book on C and 2 books on C++ I have not
> bought the software yet with the compiler ,I have been reading about
> Borlands C++ and this maybe the right way for me ? What do you think
> please.
>
> Cheers Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Coulson
> To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:C++
>
> Hi Mike
> I am doing the C/C++ lessons and hope to complete C in
> October. If by popular demand I am asked to continue then we
> will C++ what we can do.
> Cheers dave coulson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: astraguy
> To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:02 AM
> Subject: [Sderby] RE:C++
>
> Hello Dom,
> Can you please tell me if you are still doing the
> C++
> programming lessons ,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
I should forget about Visual C++, it's intended for Windows Users, as is
C# which has recently come into use. Any version of C++, Borland or
otherwise should help, but its easier if you know some C to start with.
Dvae C
From sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 24 19:05:01 2002
From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk (astraguy)
Date: Sat Aug 24 18:05:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:C++
References: <001901c249ba$9e7e0980$dc924c51@oemcomputer> <001101c24aa9$0cbc7140$b716883e@oemcomputer> <005001c24a75$5dbea740$286a893e@oemcomputer> <3D67972E.A271ADFF@coulsn.freeserve.co.uk>
Message-ID: <00d001c24b27$91802f60$9a9e4c51@oemcomputer>
Thank you for your reply,
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Coulson"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:C++
> > astraguy wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> > Thank you for your message, I have been programming in Delphi but I
> > have not done much programming for about 18 months now, My Parents are
> > now improving and I should have more time now to start again,And now I
> > am hoping to use Linux instead of Windows I thought that maybe C/C+
> > was the way to go now, And maybe use the code in Windows or Linux if
> > this is possible using a different compiler, I have at the moment SuSe
> > 8.0 and Windows ME dual booting i have been having problems with dual
> > booting my computer and decided to order a copy of Mandrake 8.2
> > complete with manuals and use this instead of SuSe , I have now found
> > out the SuSe tech gave me the wrong information several weeks ago and
> > now my computer is working ok I am not sure about putting Mandrake on
> > has well, I am not sure if I should go for C++ or Visual C++ Can you
> > please advice me I have a book on C and 2 books on C++ I have not
> > bought the software yet with the compiler ,I have been reading about
> > Borlands C++ and this maybe the right way for me ? What do you think
> > please.
> >
> > Cheers Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dave Coulson
> > To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:C++
> >
> > Hi Mike
> > I am doing the C/C++ lessons and hope to complete C in
> > October. If by popular demand I am asked to continue then we
> > will C++ what we can do.
> > Cheers dave coulson
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: astraguy
> > To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:02 AM
> > Subject: [Sderby] RE:C++
> >
> > Hello Dom,
> > Can you please tell me if you are still doing the
> > C++
> > programming lessons ,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> I should forget about Visual C++, it's intended for Windows Users, as is
> C# which has recently come into use. Any version of C++, Borland or
> otherwise should help, but its easier if you know some C to start with.
> Dvae C
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
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>
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 27 08:46:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Gerry Mayfield)
Date: Tue Aug 27 07:46:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] (no subject)
Message-ID: <34B6D99B8212C7448418399D6D67147911AF34@mserver_1.hq.bemrosebooth.com>
My question is emabarrassingly simple, but as complete Linux novice (and =
Unix) I need to check what is, for most people, obvious.
Our Linux box has been set up by a supplier and has 3 partitions (/, =
swap and /home). The / directory has only 3% free space and I believe =
this is sometimes causing problems. I need to understand the boundarys =
of each partition. =20
There is a directory called 'home' is everything uner that directory the =
'/home' partition, and if so I cannot see anything called 'swap', but =
once identified, presumably the rest is '/'?
I am probably miles off the mark, but really need some help =
understanding this.
Thanks for any help anyone can render.
Gerry M
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 27 10:30:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Clive Jones)
Date: Tue Aug 27 09:30:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <34B6D99B8212C7448418399D6D67147911AF34@mserver_1.hq.bemrosebooth.com>
References: <34B6D99B8212C7448418399D6D67147911AF34@mserver_1.hq.bemrosebooth.com>
Message-ID: <200208270928.21266.clive@tux-it.co.uk>
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On Tuesday 27 Aug 2002 7:40 am, Gerry Mayfield wrote:
> Our Linux box has been set up by a supplier and has 3 partitions (/, swap
> and /home). The / directory has only 3% free space and I believe this is
> sometimes causing problems. I need to understand the boundarys of each
> partition.
fdisk -l /dev/hda
will list the partition information of the drive /dev/hda
> There is a directory called 'home' is everything uner that directory the
> '/home' partition,
yes
> and if so I cannot see anything called 'swap', but once
> identified, presumably the rest is '/'?
try
swapon -s
to show swap into.
> I am probably miles off the mark, but really need some help understanding
> this.
Other useful commands wrt disk usage are df and du.
> Thanks for any help anyone can render.
3% doesn't sound like much free space - has it always been only 3%, or is
usage of the partition still growing? There may be temporary files which are
not being cleaned up, or a problem with log rotation etc etc. You can use du
to identify where space is being used.
HTH
C.
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From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 27 12:47:03 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Gerry Mayfield)
Date: Tue Aug 27 11:47:03 2002
Subject: [Sderby] (no subject)
Message-ID: <34B6D99B8212C7448418399D6D67147911AF3C@mserver_1.hq.bemrosebooth.com>
Continuing with my problem,
Clive Jones (whose e-mail crashes my outlook, but never mind) has given =
me some help and I deduce that the folder '/root/Desktop2/Trash' is then =
part of the the '/' directory. This folder has HUNDREDS of entries and =
while I have deleted some I need a safe way of clearing these. I assume =
this is the trash can from the GUI. Can this be done from Webmin?
I am running Caldera Openlinux. I believe there is a command to launch =
the GUI (it currently is running in command line). Can someoe assist =
with yhis command?
Thanks
Gerry Mayfield
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 27 13:36:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Clive Jones)
Date: Tue Aug 27 12:36:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <34B6D99B8212C7448418399D6D67147911AF3C@mserver_1.hq.bemrosebooth.com>
References: <34B6D99B8212C7448418399D6D67147911AF3C@mserver_1.hq.bemrosebooth.com>
Message-ID: <200208271234.26868.clive@tux-it.co.uk>
On Tuesday 27 Aug 2002 11:38 am, Gerry Mayfield wrote:
> Clive Jones (whose e-mail crashes my outlook, but never mind)
My email isn't anything fancy - it is in plain text but is digitally signed.
This email isn't signed so shouldn't hit any bugs in Outlook.
> some help and I deduce that the folder '/root/Desktop2/Trash' is then part
> of the the '/' directory. This folder has HUNDREDS of entries and while I
> have deleted some I need a safe way of clearing these. I assume this is
> the trash can from the GUI. Can this be done from Webmin?
The home directory of root is /root/, not /home/root/. This means that the
/home partition can fill up and you can still log in as root to sort the
problem out. Your problem is the other way around though :-(
It is the GUI trashcan. Deleting the files will probably be easier using a
command shell. I'd start with 'rm -f filenamemask' in the trash directory to
erase a few of the bigger files.
> I am running Caldera Openlinux. I believe there is a command to launch the
> GUI (it currently is running in command line). Can someoe assist with yhis
> command?
Try startx when already logged on. I'd erase some of the files manually first
though, as a GUI will require additional temporary hard disk space which you
may not have.
HTH
C.
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 27 21:28:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (astraguy)
Date: Tue Aug 27 20:28:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
Message-ID: <008401c24d9a$35541380$dadc883e@oemcomputer>
Hi all,
Can anyone help me ans tell me if there is a full and
good working C++ program in SuSE 8 that contains
all the library and include files please ,
There are so many C++ files on the cds that I am
not sure which goes with what and which is the best
one to go for,
Cheers Mike.
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 27 22:48:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk)
Date: Tue Aug 27 21:48:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
References: <008401c24d9a$35541380$dadc883e@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <0bd501c24e0b$8d6a83d0$0400a8c0@pc4>
Mike
Mike
You should have all the C++ bits and pieces you need as part of the SUSE8
install. The install process uses gcc (i.e the GNU C++ compiler) to build
the linux kernel, so if you have a working system you have gcc with all its
headers and libraries. Most problems in running C++ arise from the fact that
within the editor the environmental variables have not been set up properly.
In this case you will get errors when you compile because gcc is not looking
in the correct directories for the headers,libraries etc.
I am still making the transition from Microsoft C++ to gcc so I wont be much
help on the specifics of the set up process.
Hope this helps.
Andre
----- Original Message -----
From: "astraguy"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:20 AM
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> Hi all,
> Can anyone help me ans tell me if there is a full and
> good working C++ program in SuSE 8 that contains
> all the library and include files please ,
> There are so many C++ files on the cds that I am
> not sure which goes with what and which is the best
> one to go for,
> Cheers Mike.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sderby mailing list
> Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
>
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 28 02:09:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Gerry Mayfield)
Date: Wed Aug 28 01:09:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] (no subject)
Message-ID: <34B6D99B8212C7448418399D6D67147911AF41@mserver_1.hq.bemrosebooth.com>
Sorry, being thick here.. (by the way removing that signature clears my =
problem, Thanks)
I have:-
/
/etc
/home
/root
/usr
(editted as an example)
The /home is the '/home' partition ?
the /root is the '/' partition
so which partition (for example) is the /usr in? I am struggling to =
understand the boundaries of these 3 partitions.
(I don't have a /home/root entry by the way, just /root)
Sorry for being thick
Gerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Clive Jones [mailto:clive@tux-it.co.uk]
Sent: 27 August 2002 12:34
To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Sderby] (no subject)
On Tuesday 27 Aug 2002 11:38 am, Gerry Mayfield wrote:
> Clive Jones (whose e-mail crashes my outlook, but never mind)=20
My email isn't anything fancy - it is in plain text but is digitally =
signed.
This email isn't signed so shouldn't hit any bugs in Outlook.
> some help and I deduce that the folder '/root/Desktop2/Trash' is then =
part
> of the the '/' directory. This folder has HUNDREDS of entries and =
while I
> have deleted some I need a safe way of clearing these. I assume this =
is
> the trash can from the GUI. Can this be done from Webmin?
The home directory of root is /root/, not /home/root/. This means that =
the=20
/home partition can fill up and you can still log in as root to sort the =
problem out. Your problem is the other way around though :-(
It is the GUI trashcan. Deleting the files will probably be easier =
using a=20
command shell. I'd start with 'rm -f filenamemask' in the trash =
directory to=20
erase a few of the bigger files.
> I am running Caldera Openlinux. I believe there is a command to =
launch the
> GUI (it currently is running in command line). Can someoe assist with =
yhis
> command?
Try startx when already logged on. I'd erase some of the files manually =
first=20
though, as a GUI will require additional temporary hard disk space which =
you=20
may not have.
HTH
C.
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From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 28 02:47:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Clive Jones)
Date: Wed Aug 28 01:47:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <34B6D99B8212C7448418399D6D67147911AF41@mserver_1.hq.bemrosebooth.com>
References: <34B6D99B8212C7448418399D6D67147911AF41@mserver_1.hq.bemrosebooth.com>
Message-ID: <200208280145.22255.clive@tux-it.co.uk>
On Tuesday 27 Aug 2002 2:36 pm, Gerry Mayfield wrote:
> Sorry, being thick here.. (by the way removing that signature clears my
> problem, Thanks)
Apparently Eudora and the bat are both more capable mail clients if you want a
workaround for this bug?
> I have:-
>
> /
> /etc
> /home
> /root
> /usr
>
> (editted as an example)
>
> The /home is the '/home' partition ?
> the /root is the '/' partition
> so which partition (for example) is the /usr in? I am struggling to
> understand the boundaries of these 3 partitions.
/ is the root of the tree. In unix everything is treated as a file, and gets
'plumbed in' this tree structure, including devices.
When the OS boots, the / partiton is mounted at / (/ is the root partition.
/root/ is associated with the user root, and is just a subdir not the root
partition). /home/ is an empty subdirectory on / initially. When your other
partition is mounted as /home/ it replaces this subdirectory. /usr/ is
therefore on the '/' partition unless another partition has been mounted at
that point in the tree. In your case it hasn't. The command mount will show
which partions are mounted at which points in the tree.
> Sorry for being thick
This doesn't make you thick, it just means it hasn't been explained properly
yet ;)
C.
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 28 16:15:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dave Coulson)
Date: Wed Aug 28 15:15:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
References: <008401c24d9a$35541380$dadc883e@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <000901c24e9e$178e5b80$bf0f883e@oemcomputer>
It really depends on what you are doing, since different libraries exist for
different purposes. Most of the libraries contain class definitions for the
specific purpose. The most basic is the iostream.h header file which defines
cin and cout for input and output. You should be able to get an idea which
libraries you need by looking at the header file code.
Sorry that I can't be more explicit. You can use standard C headers as well.
Dave C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "astraguy"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:20 AM
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> Hi all,
> Can anyone help me ans tell me if there is a full and
> good working C++ program in SuSE 8 that contains
> all the library and include files please ,
> There are so many C++ files on the cds that I am
> not sure which goes with what and which is the best
> one to go for,
> Cheers Mike.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sderby mailing list
> Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
>
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 28 20:49:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (astraguy)
Date: Wed Aug 28 19:49:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
References: <008401c24d9a$35541380$dadc883e@oemcomputer> <000901c24e9e$178e5b80$bf0f883e@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <000c01c24e5d$c6ec5fa0$238b4c51@oemcomputer>
Hello Dave,
Thank you for your advice,I did have C++ lessons a few years ago
but the person who was teaching me moved away from the area .
I then used the Zortech C++ compiler then which contained all
the libraries needed me tutor wrote is own if he needed some other
libraries
I have been thinking about starting again and noticed the notice on
the web site and wondered if lessons started at Moira I would
be like to join them.and I wondered what software you used
and if you are multi platforms Windows/Linux, i am hoping to
be at the next meeting at Moira.
Cheers Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Coulson"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> It really depends on what you are doing, since different libraries exist
for
> different purposes. Most of the libraries contain class definitions for
the
> specific purpose. The most basic is the iostream.h header file which
defines
> cin and cout for input and output. You should be able to get an idea which
> libraries you need by looking at the header file code.
> Sorry that I can't be more explicit. You can use standard C headers as
well.
> Dave C.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "astraguy"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:20 AM
> Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
>
>
> > Hi all,
> > Can anyone help me ans tell me if there is a full and
> > good working C++ program in SuSE 8 that contains
> > all the library and include files please ,
> > There are so many C++ files on the cds that I am
> > not sure which goes with what and which is the best
> > one to go for,
> > Cheers Mike.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sderby mailing list
> > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> >
>
>
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>
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 28 20:50:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (astraguy)
Date: Wed Aug 28 19:50:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
References: <008401c24d9a$35541380$dadc883e@oemcomputer> <0bd501c24e0b$8d6a83d0$0400a8c0@pc4>
Message-ID: <001301c24e5d$f07f6100$238b4c51@oemcomputer>
Hello Andre,
Thank you for your advice,I did have C++ lessons a few years ago
but the person who was teaching me moved away from the area .
I then used the Zortech C++ compiler then which contained all
the libraries needed me tutor wrote is own if he needed some other
libraries
I have been thinking about starting again and noticed the notice on
the web site and wondered if lessons started at Moira I would
be like to join them.and I wondered what software you used
and if you are multi platforms Windows/Linux, i am hoping to
be at the next meeting at Moira.
Cheers Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> Mike
>
> Mike
>
> You should have all the C++ bits and pieces you need as part of the SUSE8
> install. The install process uses gcc (i.e the GNU C++ compiler) to build
> the linux kernel, so if you have a working system you have gcc with all
its
> headers and libraries. Most problems in running C++ arise from the fact
that
> within the editor the environmental variables have not been set up
properly.
> In this case you will get errors when you compile because gcc is not
looking
> in the correct directories for the headers,libraries etc.
>
> I am still making the transition from Microsoft C++ to gcc so I wont be
much
> help on the specifics of the set up process.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Andre
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "astraguy"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:20 AM
> Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
>
>
> > Hi all,
> > Can anyone help me ans tell me if there is a full and
> > good working C++ program in SuSE 8 that contains
> > all the library and include files please ,
> > There are so many C++ files on the cds that I am
> > not sure which goes with what and which is the best
> > one to go for,
> > Cheers Mike.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sderby mailing list
> > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> >
>
>
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>
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 28 22:38:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk)
Date: Wed Aug 28 21:38:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
References: <008401c24d9a$35541380$dadc883e@oemcomputer> <0bd501c24e0b$8d6a83d0$0400a8c0@pc4> <001301c24e5d$f07f6100$238b4c51@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <006501c24ed3$535376c0$0400a8c0@pc4>
Mike
I am planning to be at the next meeting at Moira. I would be interested in
getting involved with the C++ lessons myself.
Andre
----- Original Message -----
From: "astraguy"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> Hello Andre,
> Thank you for your advice,I did have C++ lessons a few years ago
> but the person who was teaching me moved away from the area .
> I then used the Zortech C++ compiler then which contained all
> the libraries needed me tutor wrote is own if he needed some other
> libraries
>
> I have been thinking about starting again and noticed the notice on
> the web site and wondered if lessons started at Moira I would
> be like to join them.and I wondered what software you used
> and if you are multi platforms Windows/Linux, i am hoping to
> be at the next meeting at Moira.
> Cheers Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
>
>
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > You should have all the C++ bits and pieces you need as part of the
SUSE8
> > install. The install process uses gcc (i.e the GNU C++ compiler) to
build
> > the linux kernel, so if you have a working system you have gcc with all
> its
> > headers and libraries. Most problems in running C++ arise from the fact
> that
> > within the editor the environmental variables have not been set up
> properly.
> > In this case you will get errors when you compile because gcc is not
> looking
> > in the correct directories for the headers,libraries etc.
> >
> > I am still making the transition from Microsoft C++ to gcc so I wont be
> much
> > help on the specifics of the set up process.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Andre
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "astraguy"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:20 AM
> > Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > Can anyone help me ans tell me if there is a full and
> > > good working C++ program in SuSE 8 that contains
> > > all the library and include files please ,
> > > There are so many C++ files on the cds that I am
> > > not sure which goes with what and which is the best
> > > one to go for,
> > > Cheers Mike.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sderby mailing list
> > > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sderby mailing list
> > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> >
>
>
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From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 29 02:04:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight)
Date: Thu Aug 29 01:04:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
In-Reply-To: <008401c24d9a$35541380$dadc883e@oemcomputer>
References: <008401c24d9a$35541380$dadc883e@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <200208282353.21697.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
If you are thinking of something like an IDE interface, along the lines o=
f=20
those windows thingies, maybe some are available? The done thing in Linux=
is=20
to plan ahead and then fire up a text editor to type it up, Using SuSE 8=
.0=20
you may want to try the (no longer) experimental gcc3.0 which will not ha=
ve=20
been installed by default but is apparently far more standardized as well=
as=20
ca[able of compiling faster code. Better yet would be to get the latest=20
version from net (check our websites link page) it's a huge download thou=
gh=20
so maybe it is possible to install what you have and patch up.=20
For simple graphical interfaces, it's well worth checking out the ncurses=
=20
library.
For non-standard pre-written free linux C/C++ libraries, depends what you=
want=20
but try google.com.
Regards,
Dom.
On Tuesday 27 August 2002 07:20, astraguy wrote:
> Hi all,
> Can anyone help me ans tell me if there is a full and
> good working C++ program in SuSE 8 that contains
> all the library and include files please ,
> There are so many C++ files on the cds that I am
> not sure which goes with what and which is the best
> one to go for,
> Cheers Mike.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sderby mailing list
> Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 29 11:40:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dave Coulson)
Date: Thu Aug 29 10:40:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
References: <008401c24d9a$35541380$dadc883e@oemcomputer> <000901c24e9e$178e5b80$bf0f883e@oemcomputer> <000c01c24e5d$c6ec5fa0$238b4c51@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <000901c24f40$e1a54080$1b17883e@oemcomputer>
Hi Mike
I have not done anything so formal as to prescribe compilers etc, having
only recently come to Linux myself. However gcc and if you want a nice
pretty interface then KDesigner looks OK.
I am finishing off C in October, as far as I know, so you would be welcome
to come along. C++ is next on the list.
Cheers Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "astraguy"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> Hello Dave,
> Thank you for your advice,I did have C++ lessons a few years ago
> but the person who was teaching me moved away from the area .
> I then used the Zortech C++ compiler then which contained all
> the libraries needed me tutor wrote is own if he needed some other
> libraries
>
> I have been thinking about starting again and noticed the notice on
> the web site and wondered if lessons started at Moira I would
> be like to join them.and I wondered what software you used
> and if you are multi platforms Windows/Linux, i am hoping to
> be at the next meeting at Moira.
> Cheers Mike
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Coulson"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
>
>
> > It really depends on what you are doing, since different libraries exist
> for
> > different purposes. Most of the libraries contain class definitions for
> the
> > specific purpose. The most basic is the iostream.h header file which
> defines
> > cin and cout for input and output. You should be able to get an idea
which
> > libraries you need by looking at the header file code.
> > Sorry that I can't be more explicit. You can use standard C headers as
> well.
> > Dave C.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "astraguy"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:20 AM
> > Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > Can anyone help me ans tell me if there is a full and
> > > good working C++ program in SuSE 8 that contains
> > > all the library and include files please ,
> > > There are so many C++ files on the cds that I am
> > > not sure which goes with what and which is the best
> > > one to go for,
> > > Cheers Mike.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sderby mailing list
> > > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sderby mailing list
> > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> >
>
>
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From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 29 18:50:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight)
Date: Thu Aug 29 17:50:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
Message-ID: <200208290806.47407.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
We have three HD's donated so far so can equip three of the twelve machin=
es as=20
dual boot on Sept 8th, we still need another nine or so (depending on siz=
e)=20
so keep rooting out those cupboards. Many thanks to those who have donate=
d=20
equipment.
We will be setting these machines up as dual boot so will have to spend s=
ome=20
time with both this and partitioning for those who want to come along and=
=20
learn about these subjects.
Regards,
Dominic.
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 29 23:26:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (astraguy)
Date: Thu Aug 29 22:26:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
References: <008401c24d9a$35541380$dadc883e@oemcomputer> <000901c24e9e$178e5b80$bf0f883e@oemcomputer> <000c01c24e5d$c6ec5fa0$238b4c51@oemcomputer> <000901c24f40$e1a54080$1b17883e@oemcomputer>
Message-ID: <000601c24f3c$ac0906e0$41974c51@oemcomputer>
Hi Dave/Dom,
Thank you both for your message and he information
,I am sorry but I thought that you had done a lot of C++
and Linux programming you seem very good ,I have been
phoning around today trying to find information on Linux
programming,
Borland do a program that runs C++ and Delphi on the Linux
Platform called Kylix this is a drag and drop visual version,
It is included in SuSE 8.0 but I am not sure which version,
I have tried to install this but I cannot find the file in the program
menue but I will have another try later,
If this is a full version it will be very easy for making interfaces
and general programs you can buy the full version from Borland
at about £220 pounds or free with some of there software
but I think that you need version 3 for Linux you can phone
customer services and ask for a trial cd or download a copy
from there web site www.borland.co.uk and there is a tutorial
on Brian Longs web site he does a lot of tutiorals in the computer
mags and Brian has given me a lot of help over the last few days
www.blong.com for more information,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Coulson"
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> Hi Mike
> I have not done anything so formal as to prescribe compilers etc, having
> only recently come to Linux myself. However gcc and if you want a nice
> pretty interface then KDesigner looks OK.
> I am finishing off C in October, as far as I know, so you would be welcome
> to come along. C++ is next on the list.
> Cheers Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "astraguy"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
>
>
> > Hello Dave,
> > Thank you for your advice,I did have C++ lessons a few years ago
> > but the person who was teaching me moved away from the area .
> > I then used the Zortech C++ compiler then which contained all
> > the libraries needed me tutor wrote is own if he needed some other
> > libraries
> >
> > I have been thinking about starting again and noticed the notice on
> > the web site and wondered if lessons started at Moira I would
> > be like to join them.and I wondered what software you used
> > and if you are multi platforms Windows/Linux, i am hoping to
> > be at the next meeting at Moira.
> > Cheers Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Coulson"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> >
> >
> > > It really depends on what you are doing, since different libraries
exist
> > for
> > > different purposes. Most of the libraries contain class definitions
for
> > the
> > > specific purpose. The most basic is the iostream.h header file which
> > defines
> > > cin and cout for input and output. You should be able to get an idea
> which
> > > libraries you need by looking at the header file code.
> > > Sorry that I can't be more explicit. You can use standard C headers as
> > well.
> > > Dave C.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "astraguy"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:20 AM
> > > Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Can anyone help me ans tell me if there is a full and
> > > > good working C++ program in SuSE 8 that contains
> > > > all the library and include files please ,
> > > > There are so many C++ files on the cds that I am
> > > > not sure which goes with what and which is the best
> > > > one to go for,
> > > > Cheers Mike.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Sderby mailing list
> > > > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sderby mailing list
> > > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sderby mailing list
> > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
>
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 30 00:12:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Clive Jones)
Date: Thu Aug 29 23:12:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
In-Reply-To: <200208290806.47407.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
References: <200208290806.47407.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
Message-ID: <200208292311.25873.clive@tux-it.co.uk>
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On Thursday 29 Aug 2002 9:06 am, Dominic Knight wrote:
> We will be setting these machines up as dual boot so will have to spend
> some time with both this and partitioning for those who want to come along
> and learn about these subjects.
Have you considered LTSP? You could set one dual boot machine as the server,
then have all the other machines as clients by booting them off a floppy or
cdr. Just a thought,
C.
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From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 30 10:27:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight)
Date: Fri Aug 30 09:27:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
In-Reply-To: <200208292311.25873.clive@tux-it.co.uk>
References: <200208290806.47407.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> <200208292311.25873.clive@tux-it.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200208300007.21169.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
On Thursday 29 August 2002 22:11, Clive Jones wrote:
> On Thursday 29 Aug 2002 9:06 am, Dominic Knight wrote:
> > We will be setting these machines up as dual boot so will have to spe=
nd
> > some time with both this and partitioning for those who want to come
> > along and learn about these subjects.
>
> Have you considered LTSP? You could set one dual boot machine as the
> server, then have all the other machines as clients by booting them off=
a
> floppy or cdr. Just a thought,
>
> C.
>
No but I will certainly look into it. One of the things I would like to d=
o=20
though is set up a number of differing systems Debian based vs rpm based =
and=20
linuxconf vs yast etc. LTSP would be good as an extension to this as well=
as=20
maybe a BYO type, any more ideas from anyone? It should make a really goo=
d=20
collection of demo machines, what we need as well is people to demo th=
ings=20
to ;)
Dom
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 30 11:08:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk)
Date: Fri Aug 30 10:08:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
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Mike
I use some C code from a book called "Numerical Recipes in C" to perform
some very intensive numerical calculations. Please note that this is C an=
d
not C++. What the attached table shows is that with C you can develop and
test code in on one platform and then compile and execute it on completel=
y
different hardware and O/S. Note that the GNU C++ compiler(gcc), which sh=
ips
with Linux, is on the list. This means you can choose a IDE which does no=
t
need to be on linux. This will continue to be possible with C++ as long a=
s
you stick to the ANSI C++ standard libraries. If you wan't to do the "vis=
ual
bits" e.g. user interfaces then I would choose a different language,
probably Java which can be closely integrated into C/C++.
Andre
----- Original Message -----
From: "astraguy"
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> Hi Dave/Dom,
> Thank you both for your message and he information
> ,I am sorry but I thought that you had done a lot of C++
> and Linux programming you seem very good ,I have been
> phoning around today trying to find information on Linux
> programming,
> Borland do a program that runs C++ and Delphi on the Linux
> Platform called Kylix this is a drag and drop visual version,
> It is included in SuSE 8.0 but I am not sure which version,
> I have tried to install this but I cannot find the file in the program
> menue but I will have another try later,
>
> If this is a full version it will be very easy for making interfaces
> and general programs you can buy the full version from Borland
> at about =A3220 pounds or free with some of there software
> but I think that you need version 3 for Linux you can phone
> customer services and ask for a trial cd or download a copy
> from there web site www.borland.co.uk and there is a tutorial
> on Brian Longs web site he does a lot of tutiorals in the computer
> mags and Brian has given me a lot of help over the last few days
> www.blong.com for more information,
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Coulson"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
>
>
> > Hi Mike
> > I have not done anything so formal as to prescribe compilers etc, hav=
ing
> > only recently come to Linux myself. However gcc and if you want a nic=
e
> > pretty interface then KDesigner looks OK.
> > I am finishing off C in October, as far as I know, so you would be
welcome
> > to come along. C++ is next on the list.
> > Cheers Dave
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "astraguy"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> >
> >
> > > Hello Dave,
> > > Thank you for your advice,I did have C++ lessons a few years ago
> > > but the person who was teaching me moved away from the area .
> > > I then used the Zortech C++ compiler then which contained all
> > > the libraries needed me tutor wrote is own if he needed some other
> > > libraries
> > >
> > > I have been thinking about starting again and noticed the notice on
> > > the web site and wondered if lessons started at Moira I would
> > > be like to join them.and I wondered what software you used
> > > and if you are multi platforms Windows/Linux, i am hoping to
> > > be at the next meeting at Moira.
> > > Cheers Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave Coulson"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> > >
> > >
> > > > It really depends on what you are doing, since different librarie=
s
> exist
> > > for
> > > > different purposes. Most of the libraries contain class definitio=
ns
> for
> > > the
> > > > specific purpose. The most basic is the iostream.h header file wh=
ich
> > > defines
> > > > cin and cout for input and output. You should be able to get an i=
dea
> > which
> > > > libraries you need by looking at the header file code.
> > > > Sorry that I can't be more explicit. You can use standard C heade=
rs
as
> > > well.
> > > > Dave C.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "astraguy"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:20 AM
> > > > Subject: [Sderby] RE:SuSE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > Can anyone help me ans tell me if there is a full and
> > > > > good working C++ program in SuSE 8 that contains
> > > > > all the library and include files please ,
> > > > > There are so many C++ files on the cds that I am
> > > > > not sure which goes with what and which is the best
> > > > > one to go for,
> > > > > Cheers Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Sderby mailing list
> > > > > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Sderby mailing list
> > > > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sderby mailing list
> > > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sderby mailing list
> > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> >
>
>
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From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 30 12:10:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Kris Adcock)
Date: Fri Aug 30 11:10:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
In-Reply-To: <200208300007.21169.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
Message-ID: <000c01c2500d$a1ade400$c7eea8c0@krisa>
Does anyone know of a Linux distribution which ONLY does remote X-windows
stuff. Basically, the 'floppy or CDR' that is mentioned below? I'm about to
setup the office of a local charity with a computer system, and its highly
likely that it will be an LTSP system with a SuSE 8.0 server. But I have
some small hard-discs (around 400 meg) which I could install such a
distribution on, rather than finding network cards with boot sockets and
making the ROMs.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk
> [mailto:sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk]On Behalf Of Dominic Knight
> Sent: 30 August 2002 01:07
> To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
>
>
> On Thursday 29 August 2002 22:11, Clive Jones wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 Aug 2002 9:06 am, Dominic Knight wrote:
> > > We will be setting these machines up as dual boot so will
> have to spend
> > > some time with both this and partitioning for those who
> want to come
> > > along and learn about these subjects.
> >
> > Have you considered LTSP? You could set one dual boot
> machine as the
> > server, then have all the other machines as clients by
> booting them off a
> > floppy or cdr. Just a thought,
> >
> > C.
> >
> No but I will certainly look into it. One of the things I
> would like to do
> though is set up a number of differing systems Debian based
> vs rpm based and
> linuxconf vs yast etc. LTSP would be good as an extension to
> this as well as
> maybe a BYO type, any more ideas from anyone? It should make
> a really good
> collection of demo machines, what we need as well is
> people to demo things
> to ;)
>
> Dom
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sderby mailing list
> Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 30 20:39:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mini Mike)
Date: Fri Aug 30 19:39:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Next meeting - 8/9/02
Message-ID: <200208301937.47363.mike@aurigaonline.co.uk>
Dear all,
What does anyone think to making the next meeting a meeting with a differ=
nece? =20
I suggest a little trip down memory lane. It's time to dig out those old=
=20
machines you'd been keeping in the loft for such an occasion! I'm talkin=
g=20
C-64, ZX Speccy, Atari, etc, etc. It doesn't have to run Linux, but if i=
t=20
does, all the better. Lets see who can find the oldest bit of kit :-)
Regards,
Mike.
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 30 20:46:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Peter Hughes)
Date: Fri Aug 30 19:46:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Next meeting - 8/9/02
In-Reply-To: <200208301937.47363.mike@aurigaonline.co.uk>
References: <200208301937.47363.mike@aurigaonline.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20020830194514.3092470b.peter-hughes@swad7.fsnet.co.uk>
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:37:47 +0000
Mini Mike wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> What does anyone think to making the next meeting a meeting with a differnece?
> I suggest a little trip down memory lane. It's time to dig out those old
> machines you'd been keeping in the loft for such an occasion! I'm talking
> C-64, ZX Speccy, Atari, etc, etc. It doesn't have to run Linux, but if it
> does, all the better. Lets see who can find the oldest bit of kit :-)
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Mike.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sderby mailing list
> Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
>
I can't make the next meeting but I've got a Commodore VIC-20 abd C-64 in my loft.
Peter
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 30 21:14:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Clive Jones)
Date: Fri Aug 30 20:14:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Next meeting - 8/9/02
In-Reply-To: <200208301937.47363.mike@aurigaonline.co.uk>
References: <200208301937.47363.mike@aurigaonline.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200208302012.19770.clive@tux-it.co.uk>
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On Friday 30 Aug 2002 8:37 pm, Mini Mike wrote:
> What does anyone think to making the next meeting a meeting with a
> differnece? I suggest a little trip down memory lane. It's time to dig out
> those old machines you'd been keeping in the loft for such an occasion!
> I'm talking C-64, ZX Speccy, Atari, etc, etc. It doesn't have to run
> Linux, but if it does, all the better. Lets see who can find the oldest
> bit of kit :-)
They all look a bit recent to me - what about Microtan 65, Nascom 1, UK101, S
of C MK14, Altair etc etc ;) I'm a bit far away but that does sound like
fun.
C.
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From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 31 01:50:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Bottrill)
Date: Sat Aug 31 00:50:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
In-Reply-To: <200208300007.21169.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
References: <200208290806.47407.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
<200208292311.25873.clive@tux-it.co.uk>
<200208300007.21169.dom@overseal.uklinux.net>
Message-ID: <1030751311.1551.5.camel@athlon>
I downloaded a CDROM based distribution called Knoppix, this is a
bootable CD that auto-detects most hardware & boots into KDE3, if I
remember correctly it is based on Debian woody.
It uses a compressed loopback filesystem on CD that it mounts into a
RAMDISK root partition it even has openoffice 1 and Mozilla 1 installed.
It will use a swap partition if it can find one on a hard disk if not it
goes without.
It is ideal for demoing Linux as it makes no changes to the hard disk in
the PC.
David
On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 01:07, Dominic Knight wrote:
> On Thursday 29 August 2002 22:11, Clive Jones wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 Aug 2002 9:06 am, Dominic Knight wrote:
> > > We will be setting these machines up as dual boot so will have to spend
> > > some time with both this and partitioning for those who want to come
> > > along and learn about these subjects.
> >
> > Have you considered LTSP? You could set one dual boot machine as the
> > server, then have all the other machines as clients by booting them off a
> > floppy or cdr. Just a thought,
> >
> > C.
> >
> No but I will certainly look into it. One of the things I would like to do
> though is set up a number of differing systems Debian based vs rpm based and
> linuxconf vs yast etc. LTSP would be good as an extension to this as well as
> maybe a BYO type, any more ideas from anyone? It should make a really good
> collection of demo machines, what we need as well is people to demo things
> to ;)
>
> Dom
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sderby mailing list
> Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 31 02:01:00 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Bottrill)
Date: Sat Aug 31 01:01:00 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
In-Reply-To: <000c01c2500d$a1ade400$c7eea8c0@krisa>
References: <000c01c2500d$a1ade400$c7eea8c0@krisa>
Message-ID: <1030751986.1551.17.camel@athlon>
On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 11:11, Kris Adcock wrote:
> Does anyone know of a Linux distribution which ONLY does remote X-windows
> stuff. Basically, the 'floppy or CDR' that is mentioned below? I'm about to
> setup the office of a local charity with a computer system, and its highly
> likely that it will be an LTSP system with a SuSE 8.0 server. But I have
> some small hard-discs (around 400 meg) which I could install such a
> distribution on, rather than finding network cards with boot sockets and
> making the ROMs.
Have a look at LTSP they have just what you need, also they tell you how
to configure the whole shooting match from client through to the server.
You can either burn a boot EPROM (instructions supplied) for most
suitable network cards, or make a bootable floppy, the main X-windows
client is downloaded by TFTP from the main server so the boot
requirement is only a few hundred KB in size. I was reading a review
about a LTSP project a few weeks ago and the writer was saying how he
had built a client with a low spec Pentium, with no CPU fan, he removed
the fan from the PSU and used a boot ROM. He therefore ended up with a
totally silent client. He later replaced all the PCs in his office with
similar clients and the silence was so noticeable they could hear the
clock ticking for the first time.
David
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > [mailto:sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk]On Behalf Of Dominic Knight
> > Sent: 30 August 2002 01:07
> > To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > Subject: Re: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
> >
> >
> > On Thursday 29 August 2002 22:11, Clive Jones wrote:
> > > On Thursday 29 Aug 2002 9:06 am, Dominic Knight wrote:
> > > > We will be setting these machines up as dual boot so will
> > have to spend
> > > > some time with both this and partitioning for those who
> > want to come
> > > > along and learn about these subjects.
> > >
> > > Have you considered LTSP? You could set one dual boot
> > machine as the
> > > server, then have all the other machines as clients by
> > booting them off a
> > > floppy or cdr. Just a thought,
> > >
> > > C.
> > >
> > No but I will certainly look into it. One of the things I
> > would like to do
> > though is set up a number of differing systems Debian based
> > vs rpm based and
> > linuxconf vs yast etc. LTSP would be good as an extension to
> > this as well as
> > maybe a BYO type, any more ideas from anyone? It should make
> > a really good
> > collection of demo machines, what we need as well is
> > people to demo things
> > to ;)
> >
> > Dom
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sderby mailing list
> > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sderby mailing list
> Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 31 03:48:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Clive Jones)
Date: Sat Aug 31 02:48:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
In-Reply-To: <1030751986.1551.17.camel@athlon>
References: <000c01c2500d$a1ade400$c7eea8c0@krisa> <1030751986.1551.17.camel@athlon>
Message-ID: <200208310246.32818.clive@tux-it.co.uk>
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On Saturday 31 Aug 2002 12:59 am, David Bottrill wrote:
> You can either burn a boot EPROM (instructions supplied) for most
> suitable network cards, or make a bootable floppy, the main X-windows
> client is downloaded by TFTP from the main server so the boot
> requirement is only a few hundred KB in size.
You can also download an image which is compatible with lilo from
http://rom-o-matic.net/, which would enable you to boot from the hard disk,
or build your own following the instructions at http://www.etherboot.org/.
Installing the images could be done over the network using tomsrtbt which has
the tools you need to partition/format hard disks and run lilo, and can also
be customised to cut down on the manual steps needed.
To use a CDR to boot, download a suitable floppy image, and read up on mkisofs
with the -b switch. You may have to increase the size of the image as they
are expected to be the size of a floppy.
I don't know of any mini-distros which are hard disk based and just for a
xterminal, but you could use a basic Debian install. It will make it easier
to upgrade and maintain the system in future if you keep the clients as dumb
as possible though IMHO.
HTH
C.
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From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 31 15:15:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Kris Adcock)
Date: Sat Aug 31 14:15:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
In-Reply-To: <1030751986.1551.17.camel@athlon>
Message-ID: <001801c250f0$aed6efd0$c7eea8c0@krisa>
Oh, I must have missed the floppy-version. I'll have another shufty.
LTSP sounds ideal for what I need. Seen those cute 29 quid mini-desktops in
Potts window? I managed to get a few of those before they dissapeared (they
make very good Smoothwall boxes), and I'll be using those for clients.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk
> [mailto:sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk]On Behalf Of David Bottrill
> Sent: 31 August 2002 01:00
> To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: RE: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
>
>
> On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 11:11, Kris Adcock wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a Linux distribution which ONLY does
> remote X-windows
> > stuff. Basically, the 'floppy or CDR' that is mentioned
> below? I'm about to
> > setup the office of a local charity with a computer system,
> and its highly
> > likely that it will be an LTSP system with a SuSE 8.0
> server. But I have
> > some small hard-discs (around 400 meg) which I could install such a
> > distribution on, rather than finding network cards with
> boot sockets and
> > making the ROMs.
>
> Have a look at LTSP they have just what you need, also they
> tell you how
> to configure the whole shooting match from client through to
> the server.
>
> You can either burn a boot EPROM (instructions supplied) for most
> suitable network cards, or make a bootable floppy, the main X-windows
> client is downloaded by TFTP from the main server so the boot
> requirement is only a few hundred KB in size. I was reading a review
> about a LTSP project a few weeks ago and the writer was saying how he
> had built a client with a low spec Pentium, with no CPU fan,
> he removed
> the fan from the PSU and used a boot ROM. He therefore ended up with a
> totally silent client. He later replaced all the PCs in his
> office with
> similar clients and the silence was so noticeable they could hear the
> clock ticking for the first time.
>
> David
>
>
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > [mailto:sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk]On Behalf Of
> Dominic Knight
> > > Sent: 30 August 2002 01:07
> > > To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > Subject: Re: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thursday 29 August 2002 22:11, Clive Jones wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 29 Aug 2002 9:06 am, Dominic Knight wrote:
> > > > > We will be setting these machines up as dual boot so will
> > > have to spend
> > > > > some time with both this and partitioning for those who
> > > want to come
> > > > > along and learn about these subjects.
> > > >
> > > > Have you considered LTSP? You could set one dual boot
> > > machine as the
> > > > server, then have all the other machines as clients by
> > > booting them off a
> > > > floppy or cdr. Just a thought,
> > > >
> > > > C.
> > > >
> > > No but I will certainly look into it. One of the things I
> > > would like to do
> > > though is set up a number of differing systems Debian based
> > > vs rpm based and
> > > linuxconf vs yast etc. LTSP would be good as an extension to
> > > this as well as
> > > maybe a BYO type, any more ideas from anyone? It should make
> > > a really good
> > > collection of demo machines, what we need as well is
> > > people to demo things
> > > to ;)
> > >
> > > Dom
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sderby mailing list
> > > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sderby mailing list
> > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sderby mailing list
> Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 31 16:00:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Clive Jones)
Date: Sat Aug 31 15:00:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
In-Reply-To: <001801c250f0$aed6efd0$c7eea8c0@krisa>
References: <001801c250f0$aed6efd0$c7eea8c0@krisa>
Message-ID: <200208311457.48909.clive@tux-it.co.uk>
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On Saturday 31 Aug 2002 2:16 pm, Kris Adcock wrote:
> LTSP sounds ideal for what I need. Seen those cute 29 quid mini-desktops in
> Potts window? I managed to get a few of those before they dissapeared (they
> make very good Smoothwall boxes), and I'll be using those for clients.
If you need more PCs for clients or smoothwall type applications, it might be
worth contacting Matt at http://www.anycolouryoulike.co.uk/. They are
Leicester based, and have a good selection of branded (Dell etc) Pentium PCs
from £20. It wouldn't be worth the journey unless you needed a few. Mention
Leicester LUG and he normally knocks a few quid of the price as well :-)
C.
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From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 31 22:15:01 2002
From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Bottrill)
Date: Sat Aug 31 21:15:01 2002
Subject: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
In-Reply-To: <001801c250f0$aed6efd0$c7eea8c0@krisa>
References: <001801c250f0$aed6efd0$c7eea8c0@krisa>
Message-ID: <1030824825.1595.0.camel@athlon>
Didn't see those it's been a few weeks since I last went to Potts,
although they usually have some cheap boxes.
Dave
On Sat, 2002-08-31 at 14:16, Kris Adcock wrote:
> Oh, I must have missed the floppy-version. I'll have another shufty.
>
> LTSP sounds ideal for what I need. Seen those cute 29 quid mini-desktops in
> Potts window? I managed to get a few of those before they dissapeared (they
> make very good Smoothwall boxes), and I'll be using those for clients.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > [mailto:sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk]On Behalf Of David Bottrill
> > Sent: 31 August 2002 01:00
> > To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > Subject: RE: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 11:11, Kris Adcock wrote:
> > > Does anyone know of a Linux distribution which ONLY does
> > remote X-windows
> > > stuff. Basically, the 'floppy or CDR' that is mentioned
> > below? I'm about to
> > > setup the office of a local charity with a computer system,
> > and its highly
> > > likely that it will be an LTSP system with a SuSE 8.0
> > server. But I have
> > > some small hard-discs (around 400 meg) which I could install such a
> > > distribution on, rather than finding network cards with
> > boot sockets and
> > > making the ROMs.
> >
> > Have a look at LTSP they have just what you need, also they
> > tell you how
> > to configure the whole shooting match from client through to
> > the server.
> >
> > You can either burn a boot EPROM (instructions supplied) for most
> > suitable network cards, or make a bootable floppy, the main X-windows
> > client is downloaded by TFTP from the main server so the boot
> > requirement is only a few hundred KB in size. I was reading a review
> > about a LTSP project a few weeks ago and the writer was saying how he
> > had built a client with a low spec Pentium, with no CPU fan,
> > he removed
> > the fan from the PSU and used a boot ROM. He therefore ended up with a
> > totally silent client. He later replaced all the PCs in his
> > office with
> > similar clients and the silence was so noticeable they could hear the
> > clock ticking for the first time.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > [mailto:sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk]On Behalf Of
> > Dominic Knight
> > > > Sent: 30 August 2002 01:07
> > > > To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > Subject: Re: [Sderby] Meetings and hard drives
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday 29 August 2002 22:11, Clive Jones wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday 29 Aug 2002 9:06 am, Dominic Knight wrote:
> > > > > > We will be setting these machines up as dual boot so will
> > > > have to spend
> > > > > > some time with both this and partitioning for those who
> > > > want to come
> > > > > > along and learn about these subjects.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you considered LTSP? You could set one dual boot
> > > > machine as the
> > > > > server, then have all the other machines as clients by
> > > > booting them off a
> > > > > floppy or cdr. Just a thought,
> > > > >
> > > > > C.
> > > > >
> > > > No but I will certainly look into it. One of the things I
> > > > would like to do
> > > > though is set up a number of differing systems Debian based
> > > > vs rpm based and
> > > > linuxconf vs yast etc. LTSP would be good as an extension to
> > > > this as well as
> > > > maybe a BYO type, any more ideas from anyone? It should make
> > > > a really good
> > > > collection of demo machines, what we need as well is
> > > > people to demo things
> > > > to ;)
> > > >
> > > > Dom
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Sderby mailing list
> > > > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sderby mailing list
> > > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sderby mailing list
> > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sderby mailing list
> Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk
> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby