From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 2 20:02:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (mikelinton) Date: Sat Aug 2 19:02:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] RE:Lindows Message-ID: <000701c35920$2a399c30$9d5808c3@michael> Hi Members, Has anyone tried using Lindows op system ? only a friend offererd me a copy to try and see if it works on my computer but I don't want to upset my present op system. Michael From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Aug 3 11:54:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (mikelinton) Date: Sun Aug 3 10:54:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Re:Meeting Message-ID: <000701c359a5$0ef8fb20$50857ed4@michael> Hi Can you please tell me when the next meeting is ? Michael From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Aug 3 13:45:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (thegoths) Date: Sun Aug 3 12:45:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] RE:Lindows In-Reply-To: <000701c35920$2a399c30$9d5808c3@michael> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030802214654.00a5b598@pop.ntlworld.com> --=======5E6A5215======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3FF363FF; boundary="=====================_4223171==.ALT" --=====================_4223171==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3FF363FF; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've heard good things about it. Why not get a second hand HD and nail it onto that? If you can't get one, let me know, I've got a few 'kicking about' :) Cheers Keith G At 19:01 02/08/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Members, >Has anyone tried using Lindows op system ? >only a friend offererd me a copy to try and see >if it works on my computer but I don't want >to upset my present op system. >Michael > >_______________________________________________ >Sderby mailing list >Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk >http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby >Web site: http://sderby.lug.org.uk/ >wiki: http://www.sderby.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release Date: 01/08/2003 --=====================_4223171==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3FF363FF; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've heard good things about it. Why not get a second hand HD and nail it onto that? If you can't get one, let me know, I've got a few 'kicking about' :)
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Keith G
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Hi Members,
Has anyone tried using Lindows op system ?
only a friend offererd me a copy to try and see
if it works on my computer but I don't want
to upset my present op system.
Michael

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--=====================_4223171==.ALT-- --=======5E6A5215======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3FF363FF Content-Disposition: inline --- Bugs? You got Bugs? Not from this here machine you ain't :) Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release Date: 01/08/2003 --=======5E6A5215=======-- From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Aug 3 16:00:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mike Hemstock) Date: Sun Aug 3 15:00:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Re:Meeting In-Reply-To: <000701c359a5$0ef8fb20$50857ed4@michael> References: <000701c359a5$0ef8fb20$50857ed4@michael> Message-ID: <200308031600.53283.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> On Sunday 03 August 2003 10:53, mikelinton wrote: >Hi >Can you please tell me when the >next meeting is ? >Michael Next Sunday 10/8. -- Mike From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Aug 3 16:02:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (mikelinton) Date: Sun Aug 3 15:02:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Re:Meeting References: <000701c359a5$0ef8fb20$50857ed4@michael> <200308031600.53283.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <000b01c359c7$ad9653a0$c85c08c3@michael> Thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hemstock" To: Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [Sderby] Re:Meeting > On Sunday 03 August 2003 10:53, mikelinton wrote: > >Hi > >Can you please tell me when the > >next meeting is ? > >Michael > > Next Sunday 10/8. > > -- > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Sderby mailing list > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby > Web site: http://sderby.lug.org.uk/ > wiki: http://www.sderby.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl > From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Aug 4 13:08:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight) Date: Mon Aug 4 12:08:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Re:Meeting In-Reply-To: <000701c359a5$0ef8fb20$50857ed4@michael> References: <000701c359a5$0ef8fb20$50857ed4@michael> Message-ID: <200308031306.12721.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> On Sunday 03 August 2003 10:53, mikelinton wrote: > Hi > Can you please tell me when the > next meeting is ? > Michael > Next Sunday we will be available, just needed to check on holiday=20 arrangements, in case the keys weren't. So next Moira meeting is Sunday 10th August 2003 from around 2:30PM. Dom. From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Aug 4 13:10:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (stuart.marshall4) Date: Mon Aug 4 12:10:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] help!!!! Message-ID: <001501c359f5$05e725c0$6401a8c0@k0w2m4> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C359FD.672CE7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all My laptop has gone 'tits up' have checked it with Knoppix and all the = files are there? won't load the grub loader just comes up with 'grub = version 0.92 (638k lower / 97216 upper memory). minimal BASH=3Dlike line editing is supported etc. grub>and flashing cursor. can I put the grub loader back in? as I ain't got windows (not a bad = thing I hear you say.) was hoping to do a lot of work on it in Scotland next week. Off Tuesday = morning. Stuart p.s. Coming back Sunday in time for meeting I hope! =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C359FD.672CE7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all
My laptop has gone 'tits up' have = checked=20 it with Knoppix and all the files are there? won't load the grub loader = just=20 comes up with 'grub version 0.92 (638k lower / 97216 upper = memory).
minimal BASH=3Dlike line editing = is supported=20 etc.
grub>and flashing = cursor.
can I put the grub loader back = in? as I=20 ain't got windows (not a bad thing I hear you say.)
was hoping to do a lot of work on = it in=20 Scotland next week. Off Tuesday morning.
 
Stuart
 
p.s. Coming back Sunday in time = for meeting=20 I hope!
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C359FD.672CE7E0-- From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Mon Aug 4 19:28:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mike Hemstock) Date: Mon Aug 4 18:28:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] help!!!! In-Reply-To: <001501c359f5$05e725c0$6401a8c0@k0w2m4> References: <001501c359f5$05e725c0$6401a8c0@k0w2m4> Message-ID: <200308041926.57806.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> On Sunday 03 August 2003 20:25, stuart.marshall4 wrote: >Hi all >My laptop has gone 'tits up' have checked it with Knoppix and all the files > are there? won't load the grub loader just comes up with 'grub version 0.92 > (638k lower / 97216 upper memory). minimal BASH=like line editing is > supported etc. >grub>and flashing cursor. >can I put the grub loader back in? as I ain't got windows (not a bad thing I > hear you say.) was hoping to do a lot of work on it in Scotland next week. > Off Tuesday morning. > >Stuart > >p.s. Coming back Sunday in time for meeting I hope! If you boot off the SuSE rescue disks then you should be able to run YaST and reinstall GRUB. -- Mike From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 5 21:12:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mike Hemstock) Date: Tue Aug 5 20:12:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] IRC Message-ID: <200308052110.43850.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> See you guys on irc.lug.org.uk in #sderby at 21:00 tonight. -- Mike From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 12 11:32:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Tue Aug 12 10:32:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] IRC tonight Message-ID: <1060680696.3f38b3f8f3c4b@webmail.freedom2surf.net> Hopefully, i will see you all on IRC tonight at 9.00pm (is it still on irc.lug.org.uk?) that is, i will if NTL do actually come round and fit my phone line and broadband. Anytime between 12 and 5:30 they said, so i'm taking bets on when they'll actually turn up. Ian ------------------------------------------------- Everyone should have http://www.freedom2surf.net/ From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 12 12:43:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (James Gibbon) Date: Tue Aug 12 11:43:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] IRC tonight In-Reply-To: slh's message of Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:31:36 +0100. <1060680696.3f38b3f8f3c4b@webmail.freedom2surf.net> Message-ID: <20030812104200.BDBDD9C432@dino.slimtowers> slh@f2s.com wrote: > Hopefully, i will see you all on IRC tonight at 9.00pm (is it still on > irc.lug.org.uk?) > > that is, i will if NTL do actually come round and fit my phone line and > broadband. Anytime between 12 and 5:30 they said, so i'm taking bets on when > they'll actually turn up. > What odds are you offering on between 12 and 1? :) From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 13 23:21:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Flash¹³ Egis-Minsky) Date: Wed Aug 13 22:21:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Re: IRC Message-ID:

Sorry I wasnt on last night, I was trying to find a copy* of windows that will run long enough for me to download debian (lent out red hat, then i buggerred it up :-D) I'll strive to get there next time!!!

* I don't own any windows, other than ME, that came on the Packardbell, and on the masterdisc's, which means i cant install it without installing aload of other stuff

So, i'll be back on my computer (fubar) and usin linux again within the week

Flash¹³:God
 

Have more fun with your mobile - add polyphonic ringtones, java games, celebrity voicemails and loads more! Click here to get started. From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 14 00:10:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Matthew Humphreys) Date: Wed Aug 13 23:10:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Squirrelmail In-Reply-To: <20030812104200.BDBDD9C432@dino.slimtowers> Message-ID: <001b01c361e6$645573c0$6700a8c0@EMSSVR02> Hi there, I've got squirrelmail installed on my server and all works great. Except.... When I send mail to another local user it comes up as being from apache@localhost. Has anyone else seen this? Many thanks Matthew PS Will someone be at the next Sunday meeting who can look at my sendmail/fetchmail configuration and unravel my samba?! PPS Someone was looking for CAD for linux. Try http://pfrostie.freeservers.com/cad-tastrafy/cad.page3.html From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 14 00:37:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Robson) Date: Wed Aug 13 23:37:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Squirrelmail In-Reply-To: <001b01c361e6$645573c0$6700a8c0@EMSSVR02> References: <001b01c361e6$645573c0$6700a8c0@EMSSVR02> Message-ID: <200308132341.05877.david.robson@virgin.net> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Except.... When I send mail to another local user it comes up as being > from apache@localhost. *snip* have you set: options / personal informaiton / email address ? =2D --=20 Rob GnuPG key: 1024D/309586CA =46ingerprint: 952A 4EB9 CC81 F30A 35CF D473 BF12 FD80 3095 86CA Key available at http://pgp.mit.edu =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Or6AvxL9gDCVhsoRAmqAAKCR/6rCRw0ne0M9wtjqgKJqyeKXMQCfYo45 sSEs/4wqVKGnsf5iM7cX06Q=3D =3DaO4m =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 15 18:39:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Bottrill) Date: Fri Aug 15 17:39:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Pub Night Message-ID: <26014.192.85.50.1.1060965522.squirrel@www.bottrill.org> As you may know a few hardy souls gather in the Babbingtom Arms on Babbington lane every Friday evening for the purposes of imbibing Alcohol, a bite to eat and stimulating chat (we would like to think so anyway). We look forward to any new members, we usually have a Tux of some sort on the table, we do have a laminated A4 poster which we wil put on the table, that is providing Roger remembers to bring it. Failing that it would probably be a small plastic Tux. Failing that look for the table of misfits that's bound to be us. Dave -- David Bottrill david@bottrill.org From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Aug 17 02:03:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Martin Brentnall) Date: Sun Aug 17 01:03:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Pub Night In-Reply-To: <26014.192.85.50.1.1060965522.squirrel@www.bottrill.org> References: <26014.192.85.50.1.1060965522.squirrel@www.bottrill.org> Message-ID: <200308170118.50219.webmaster@avalon-one.net> Hello everyone, Babbington Arms, is the whetherspoons place that is close to Derby town center right? I've been a member of the SDerby LUG for quite a while, although I don't often make my presence known too often, I do read the messages though. :p I obviously don't know you guys well, is any member of the group welcome? I have chatted with a few of you on the IRC channel a couple times and wouldn't mind meeting you guys there if that's okay. Anyways, it does sound pretty cool. Cheers, Martin On Friday 15 August 2003 4:38 pm, David Bottrill wrote: > As you may know a few hardy souls gather in the Babbingtom Arms on > Babbington lane every Friday evening for the purposes of imbibing Alcohol, > a bite to eat and stimulating chat (we would like to think so anyway). > > We look forward to any new members, we usually have a Tux of some sort on > the table, we do have a laminated A4 poster which we wil put on the table, > that is providing Roger remembers to bring it. Failing that it would > probably be a small plastic Tux. > > Failing that look for the table of misfits that's bound to be us. > > Dave From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Aug 17 09:59:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Robson) Date: Sun Aug 17 08:59:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Pub Night In-Reply-To: <200308170118.50219.webmaster@avalon-one.net> References: <26014.192.85.50.1.1060965522.squirrel@www.bottrill.org> <200308170118.50219.webmaster@avalon-one.net> Message-ID: <200308170903.40472.david.robson@virgin.net> On Sunday 17 August 2003 2:18 am, Martin Brentnall wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Babbington Arms, is the whetherspoons place that is close to Derby town > center right? I've been a member of the SDerby LUG for quite a while, > although I don't often make my presence known too often, I do read the > messages though. :p > > I obviously don't know you guys well, is any member of the group welcome? I > have chatted with a few of you on the IRC channel a couple times and > wouldn't mind meeting you guys there if that's okay. Anyways, it does sound > pretty cool. heh well i just started turning up about a month ago, and i feel welcome enough so yeah i figure anyone is :-) - yeah its the pub near waterstones book shop - that's how i found it anyway :) -- Rob GnuPG key: 1024D/309586CA Fingerprint: 952A 4EB9 CC81 F30A 35CF D473 BF12 FD80 3095 86CA Key available at http://pgp.mit.edu From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 19 20:54:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (stuart.marshall4) Date: Tue Aug 19 19:54:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] cad Message-ID: <001e01c361f1$b5728620$6401a8c0@k0w2m4> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C361FA.164BF1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthew It was I looking for a cad program and found just what I was looking for = on the suse 8.1 disks called Qcad I also sorted out the problem I was = having before going to Scotland but cant seem to get back the log in = screen I used to have just got the default one. Also does not shut down = without logging on as root but it will wait till the next Sunday meeting = have learnt a lot in a week of trying to get it working? Stuart ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C361FA.164BF1E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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It was I looking for a cad = program and=20 found just what I was looking for on the suse 8.1 disks called Qcad I = also=20 sorted out the problem I was having before going to Scotland but cant = seem to=20 get back the log in screen I used to have just got the default one. Also = does=20 not shut down without logging on as root but it will wait till the next = Sunday=20 meeting have learnt a lot in a week of trying to get it=20 working?
Stuart   
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C361FA.164BF1E0-- From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 20 20:54:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Flash¹³ Egis-Minsky) Date: Wed Aug 20 19:54:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] America's Army 3D GAMING, B3ta.com, and DRINK! Message-ID: Hey all! When I was on windows i played a game released and "kept" by the american MoD. This game is America's Army; Operations. The game is free, and they mean completly, which is nice. The only trouble is, I can't seem to get it to run... (ends after splash screen with no error) ... I have a GF2 mx400 (64mb) and on board VIA ac97 codec sound "card" I mite go back to windows again :D I was woundering what sort of things i'll need to download; graphics drivers. etc... becuase i know a friend on RH8 that it runs a bit smashingly quick (100fps limited by monitor) Point 2 (of 3) I'm famouse now http://b3ta.com/board/1781816 That was dun on GiMP keep an eye on b3ta.com for more Flash13 posts! - If someone wants to donate on my behalf, I WANT AN ICON :'(!!! Point 3 (last thing) What sort of age group are you people that end up at The Babbington Arms? I'm turnin 18 in nov' I dont wanna feel stupid cuz everyones late 20's+ (sorry, dont mean to offend) Flash¹³:God _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 20 21:29:02 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Martin Brentnall) Date: Wed Aug 20 20:29:02 2003 Subject: [Sderby] America's Army 3D GAMING, B3ta.com, and DRINK! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200308202045.43456.webmaster@avalon-one.net> What program are you using to run America's Army? I'm not familiar with the= =20 game myself, so is it a native Linux game or are you using a program such a= s=20 WINE to run the Windows version? If you're using WINE, have you tried WineX? Also, have you checked to ensure that your graphics driver is working=20 correctly? Fire up an xterm, type "glxinfo | grep rendering" (without=20 quotes), it should say "Direct Rendering: Yes" if everything is working=20 properly. If not, you might have to have a play with /etc/XFree86Config As for the age group thingy, good question, I also wanted to ask that but=20 wasn't sure how to put it, as I wanted to drop by sometime. I'm 21 myself. Cheers, Martin On Wednesday 20 August 2003 6:53 pm, Flash=B9=B3 Egis-Minsky wrote: > Hey all! > > When I was on windows i played a game released and "kept" by the american > MoD. > This game is America's Army; Operations. > The game is free, and they mean completly, which is nice. > > The only trouble is, I can't seem to get it to run... (ends after splash > screen with no error) ... I have a GF2 mx400 (64mb) and on board VIA ac97 > codec sound "card" I mite go back to windows again :D > > I was woundering what sort of things i'll need to download; graphics > drivers. etc... becuase i know a friend on RH8 that it runs a bit > smashingly quick (100fps limited by monitor) > > Point 2 (of 3) > > I'm famouse now > http://b3ta.com/board/1781816 > That was dun on GiMP > keep an eye on b3ta.com for more Flash13 posts! - If someone wants to > donate on my behalf, I WANT AN ICON :'(!!! > > Point 3 (last thing) > > What sort of age group are you people that end up at The Babbington Arms? > I'm turnin 18 in nov' I dont wanna feel stupid cuz everyones late 20's+ > (sorry, dont mean to offend) > > Flash=B9=B3:God > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > _______________________________________________ > Sderby mailing list > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby > Web site: http://sderby.lug.org.uk/ > wiki: http://www.sderby.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 20 21:50:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (James Gibbon) Date: Wed Aug 20 20:50:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] America's Army 3D GAMING, B3ta.com, and DRINK! In-Reply-To: webmaster's message of Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:45:43 -0000. <200308202045.43456.webmaster@avalon-one.net> Message-ID: <20030820194954.7DC9F9C44A@dino.slimtowers> Martin Brentnall wrote: > What program are you using to run America's Army? I'm not familiar > with the game myself, so is it a native Linux game or are you > using a program such as WINE to run the Windows version? > There is a native Linux version knocking around - it was provided on the coverdisk of Linux Format a month or two back. I've been avoiding it myself, as I find entertainment based on the adventures of the US armed forces to be in somewhat poor taste right now. James From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 20 22:51:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight) Date: Wed Aug 20 21:51:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] That's got to be a record! Message-ID: <200308202159.36354.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> You'll be excited to note that today was our busiest day for=20 messages. Unfortunately 45 of them were viruses that couln.t be=20 approved. Only one was from a known member (hemstock@tiscali needs a=20 virus checker) and we seem to have made it into many a company=20 address book. Anyway have fun, Dom. From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 20 22:57:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mike Hemstock) Date: Wed Aug 20 21:57:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] The public house Message-ID: <200308202257.48460.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> =46olks, In response to the many recent questions about the pub. Age: We have a fairly mixed bag of 20s, 30s, 40s. For those worried about being= =20 stuck with old gits like Dave, there are a couple of us in our early 20s (2= 0=20 & 22). For those under 18: 1) Goto the bank, withdraw =A3500 2) Goto PC world, buy a PC, scanner & printer. 3) Goto www.linuxemporium.co.uk. Buy Suse 8.2. 4) Install SuSE on PC. 5) Scan passport. 6) Change date of birth as necessary. 7) Print 8) The job's a good 'n'! Sex: What do you think? Location: Located at the back of the Babbington Arms every Friday from about 19:30=20 onwards. Usually on or near the big long table next to the cutlery. Look= =20 for Cuban Tee-shirts & penguins! Topics of Conversation: * Cars * Bikes * Four stroke engines * Totty turn out * Electronics * Chemistry * Che Guevara * Someone once mentioned something about a UNIX clone for x86 machines! Excuses for not attending: None accepted. See you all there, Mike. From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 20 23:02:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (James Gibbon) Date: Wed Aug 20 22:02:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] That's got to be a record! In-Reply-To: dom's message of Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:59:36 +0100. <200308202159.36354.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> Message-ID: <20030820210131.09E609C44A@dino.slimtowers> Dominic Knight wrote: > You'll be excited to note that today was our busiest day for > messages. 'us' being .. ? From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 20 23:03:03 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (James Gibbon) Date: Wed Aug 20 22:03:03 2003 Subject: [Sderby] The public house In-Reply-To: hemstock's message of Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:57:48 +0100. <200308202257.48460.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20030820210236.003D59C44A@dino.slimtowers> Mike Hemstock wrote: > Sex: > > What do you think? > 'unlikely' ? From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 20 23:10:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk) Date: Wed Aug 20 22:10:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] That's got to be a record! In-Reply-To: <200308202159.36354.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> References: <200308202159.36354.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> Message-ID: <1061413759.3f43e37fd8427@webmail.freedom2surf.net> > You'll be excited to note that today was our busiest day for > messages. Unfortunately 45 of them were viruses that couln.t be > approved. Only one was from a known member (hemstock@tiscali needs a > virus checker) and we seem to have made it into many a company > address book. > heehee, /me points at mike(hemstock) and sniggers being serious, i think the virus thats doing the rounds at the moment spoofs email address, so that the sender is actually the one who sent it. theyjsut get the blame. Ian ------------------------------------------------- Everyone should have http://www.freedom2surf.net/ From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 20 23:16:02 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Spratt) Date: Wed Aug 20 22:16:02 2003 Subject: [Sderby] That's got to be a record! References: <200308202159.36354.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> <1061413759.3f43e37fd8427@webmail.freedom2surf.net> Message-ID: <000701c36760$246424d0$1901a8c0@belgarath> > email address, so that the sender is actually the one who sent it. they just get insert a "not" between is and actually, and that might make some sense From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 00:07:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Bottrill) Date: Wed Aug 20 23:07:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] The public house In-Reply-To: <200308202257.48460.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> References: <200308202257.48460.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <1061417212.2563.0.camel@athlon.local> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 22:57, Mike Hemstock wrote: > Folks, > > In response to the many recent questions about the pub. > > Age: > > We have a fairly mixed bag of 20s, 30s, 40s. For those worried about being > stuck with old gits like Dave, Cheeky S*D. -- David Bottrill From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 00:43:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Flash¹³ Egis-Minsky) Date: Wed Aug 20 23:43:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] America's Army 3D GAMING, ***, and DRINK! Message-ID: >From: Martin Brentnall >What program are you using to run America's Army? I'm not familiar with the >game myself, so is it a native Linux game or are you using a program such >as >WINE to run the Windows version? >If you're using WINE, have you tried WineX? i've got the native linux verion >Also, have you checked to ensure that your graphics driver is working >correctly? Fire up an xterm, type "glxinfo | grep rendering" (without >quotes), it should say "Direct Rendering: Yes" if everything is working >properly. If not, you might have to have a play with /etc/XFree86Config returns Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". direct rendering: No HELP?! >As for the age group thingy, good question, I also wanted to ask that but >wasn't sure how to put it, as I wanted to drop by sometime. I'm 21 myself. Aslong as no-ones gonna bitch wen i drink everyone under the table, even at 17 i'll come! Flash¹³:God _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 09:06:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Robson) Date: Thu Aug 21 08:06:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] America's Army 3D GAMING, ***, and DRINK! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200308210805.34688.david.robson@virgin.net> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". > direct rendering: No > HELP?! hey, did you mention you have a geforce? if so install the nVidia kernel module,= =20 and make sure you have something like this in your XF86Config file (assumin= g=20 you already have the device block setup)=20 # This loads the GLX module Load "glx" this seems to be enough for me, i guess the nvidia module must handle all t= he=20 dri stuff - however, if you cant get that to work / it isnt enough, you can= =20 always try loading the dri module with: # This loads the DRI module Load "dri" if there's any problems with either module it should spit them out into the= =20 log file when it tries to load them :) good luck :P =2D --=20 Rob GnuPG key: 1024D/309586CA =46ingerprint: 952A 4EB9 CC81 F30A 35CF D473 BF12 FD80 3095 86CA Key available at http://pgp.mit.edu =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RG88vxL9gDCVhsoRApY2AJ0U+T2Pb8QcDzpf1Wu9rbaKUB8ScQCfTNAg OyHu4icEOPpaXjtpGxpK55Y=3D =3Dkzw4 =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 12:16:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Coulson) Date: Thu Aug 21 11:16:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] America's Army 3D GAMING, B3ta.com, and DRINK! References: Message-ID: <3F449C0D.8010704@coulsn.freeserve.co.uk> Flash¹³ Egis-Minsky wrote: > Hey all! > > When I was on windows i played a game released and "kept" by the > american MoD. > This game is America's Army; Operations. > The game is free, and they mean completly, which is nice. > > The only trouble is, I can't seem to get it to run... (ends after splash > screen with no error) ... I have a GF2 mx400 (64mb) and on board VIA > ac97 codec sound "card" I mite go back to windows again :D > > I was woundering what sort of things i'll need to download; graphics > drivers. etc... becuase i know a friend on RH8 that it runs a bit > smashingly quick (100fps limited by monitor) > > Point 2 (of 3) > > I'm famouse now > http://b3ta.com/board/1781816 > That was dun on GiMP > keep an eye on b3ta.com for more Flash13 posts! - If someone wants to > donate on my behalf, I WANT AN ICON :'(!!! > > Point 3 (last thing) > > What sort of age group are you people that end up at The Babbington > Arms? I'm turnin 18 in nov' I dont wanna feel stupid cuz everyones late > 20's+ (sorry, dont mean to offend) > > Flash¹³:God > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > _______________________________________________ > Sderby mailing list > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby > Web site: http://sderby.lug.org.uk/ > wiki: http://www.sderby.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl > > What will you do if a few 60+ people turn up, I should hate to give you a heart attack!!!!!!! David C From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 13:32:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight) Date: Thu Aug 21 12:32:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] That's got to be a record! In-Reply-To: <20030820210131.09E609C44A@dino.slimtowers> References: <20030820210131.09E609C44A@dino.slimtowers> Message-ID: <200308211241.21731.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 22:01, James Gibbon wrote: > Dominic Knight wrote: > > You'll be excited to note that today was our busiest day for > > messages. > > 'us' being .. ? > Sderby LUG mailing list.=20 We managed another 5 MB worth of the junk since last night, my=20 mailbox is groaning with the wieght of them all. Dom (LUG Admin) From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 13:37:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight) Date: Thu Aug 21 12:37:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] America's Army 3D GAMING, ***, and DRINK! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200308211246.36288.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 23:42, Flash=B9=B3 Egis-Minsky wrote: > Aslong as no-ones gonna bitch wen i drink everyone under the > table, even at 17 i'll come! > Cough!=20 You must have forgot to mention you would be 18 and able to have more=20 than an orange squash by the time friday came around? Dom > Flash=B9=B3:God > From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 15:50:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Martin Brentnall) Date: Thu Aug 21 14:50:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] The public house References: <200308202257.48460.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <3f44cfd46095c6.57363881@avalon-one.net> Sounds cool to me, I might probably be there tomorrow then. :) > =46olks, > > In response to the many recent questions about the pub. > > Age: > > We have a fairly mixed bag of 20s, 30s, 40s. For those worried about being= > =20 > stuck with old gits like Dave, there are a couple of us in our early 20s (2= > 0=20 > etc. -- Martin ------------------ Webmaster of http://www.avalon-one.net E-mail - webmaster@avalon-one.net ICQ - 46564928 From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 17:21:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dominic Knight) Date: Thu Aug 21 16:21:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] That's got to be a record! In-Reply-To: <1061413759.3f43e37fd8427@webmail.freedom2surf.net> References: <200308202159.36354.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> <1061413759.3f43e37fd8427@webmail.freedom2surf.net> Message-ID: <200308211630.03344.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 22:09, slh@f2s.com wrote: > > You'll be excited to note that today was our busiest day for > > messages. Unfortunately 45 of them were viruses that couln.t be > > approved. Only one was from a known member (hemstock@tiscali > > needs a virus checker) and we seem to have made it into many a > > company address book. > > heehee, > > /me points at mike(hemstock) and sniggers > > being serious, i think the virus thats doing the rounds at the > moment spoofs email address, so that the sender is actually the > one who sent it. theyjsut get the blame. > > Ian Yeah, you're right, Mike's mail address was spoofed from a mail he=20 posted in May (ID: 200305181952.59642 if you're interested in=20 finding where they took it from Mike). Until they get bored, I will stop sending myself copies of messages=20 waiting for approval and dump almost everything, please don't send=20 any HTML or anything that will get caught by the spam filter as I am=20 likely to miss it. Dom From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 17:35:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Jolley) Date: Thu Aug 21 16:35:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] That's got to be a record! In-Reply-To: <200308211630.03344.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> References: <200308202159.36354.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> <1061413759.3f43e37fd8427@webmail.freedom2surf.net> <200308211630.03344.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> Message-ID: <3F44E678.6010809@lucien.cx> Dominic Knight wrote: >On Wednesday 20 August 2003 22:09, slh@f2s.com wrote: > > >>>You'll be excited to note that today was our busiest day for >>>messages. Unfortunately 45 of them were viruses that couln.t be >>>approved. Only one was from a known member (hemstock@tiscali >>>needs a virus checker) and we seem to have made it into many a >>>company address book. >>> >>> >>heehee, >> >>/me points at mike(hemstock) and sniggers >> >>being serious, i think the virus thats doing the rounds at the >>moment spoofs email address, so that the sender is actually the >>one who sent it. theyjsut get the blame. >> >>Ian >> >> >Yeah, you're right, Mike's mail address was spoofed from a mail he >posted in May (ID: 200305181952.59642 if you're interested in >finding where they took it from Mike). >Until they get bored, I will stop sending myself copies of messages >waiting for approval and dump almost everything, please don't send >any HTML or anything that will get caught by the spam filter as I am >likely to miss it. > >Dom > > > On this note - or at least a very similar one, may I suggest that in the onslaught of the latest virus, all you exim users nust need to create a file with the contents: ------ Cut Here ------ # Exim Filter if ($h_subject: is "Re: That movie" or $h_subject: is "Re: Wicked screensaver" or $h_subject: is "Re: Approved" or $h_subject: is "Re: Details" or $h_subject: is "Re: Re: My details" or $h_subject: is "Re: Thank you!" or $h_subject: is "Thank you!" or $h_subject: is "Re: Your application" or $h_subject: is "Your details") then fail text "This message looks like a virus" endif ------ Finish ------ and add a line in exim.conf (near the top) to reference the file thusly: system_filter = /path/to/file-you-just-created for version 4.x of exim and: message_filter = /path/to/file-you-just-created for 3.x (or so) of exim. This will filter out all messages with the subject lines that the Sobig.F virus is known to use. Filtering by content? Fine by me if you're getting 2000 emails per day... Cheers, Dave From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 19:51:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Alan Dunford) Date: Thu Aug 21 18:51:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] That's got to be a record! In-Reply-To: <200308202159.36354.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> References: <200308202159.36354.dom@overseal.uklinux.net> Message-ID: <200308211851.45735.adunford@ntlworld.com> > __ Hello all. I have not made the acquaintance of any of you (yet) but have been lurking on the edges of the list for some time. Seriously, have you tried SpamAssassin which will fileter suspected SPAM, applying sets of rules like looking for references to Viagra etc and then banging the lot into a SPAM file. I am receiving uipwards of 20 spam messages a day on a domestic system but only a few find their way into my in box. As an old git myself, I don't think my carer will let me out into the city to go drinking on a Friday but I would be pleased to swap e-mails with any of you and will give you my home phone number if I can be of help in any way. Am running Mandrake-Linux 9.1 . Location is Radbourne Street, Derby Regards Alan -- Alan Dunford, Derby, England adunford@ntlworld.com web page: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/adunford Coming to you from a Microsoft-free computer. From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 20:32:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (James Gibbon) Date: Thu Aug 21 19:32:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] That's got to be a record! In-Reply-To: adunford's message of Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:51:45 +0100. <200308211851.45735.adunford@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20030821183140.7DF469C44A@dino.slimtowers> Alan Dunford wrote: > Seriously, have you tried SpamAssassin which will filter suspected > SPAM, applying sets of rules like looking for references to Viagra > etc and then banging the lot into a SPAM file. I am receiving > uipwards of 20 spam messages a day on a domestic system but only a > few find their way into my in box. > Yes, I use it in conjunction with fetchmail - works a treat, although I've found that six or seven .pif attachments have got through in the last few days - harmlessly, of course. From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 20:45:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Alan Dunford) Date: Thu Aug 21 19:45:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] That's got to be a record! In-Reply-To: <20030821183140.7DF469C44A@dino.slimtowers> References: <20030821183140.7DF469C44A@dino.slimtowers> Message-ID: <200308211945.52017.adunford@ntlworld.com> On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 19:31, James Gibbon wrote: > Alan Dunford wrote: > > Seriously, have you tried SpamAssassin which will filter > > suspected SPAM, applying sets of rules like looking for > > references to Viagra etc and then banging the lot into a SPAM > > file. I am receiving uipwards of 20 spam messages a day on a > > domestic system but only a few find their way into my in box. > > Yes, I use it in conjunction with fetchmail - works a treat, > although I've found that six or seven .pif attachments have got > through in the last few days - harmlessly, of course. > Similar experience here - I suspect the SPAM creators are getting wise to the algorithms which SpamAssassin and similar are using now. Maybe we need to look at the updates currently available. Alan > Sderby mailing list > Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby > Web site: http://sderby.lug.org.uk/ > wiki: http://www.sderby.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.p From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 21 22:01:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ian Spratt) Date: Thu Aug 21 21:01:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] The public house References: <200308202257.48460.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> <1061417212.2563.0.camel@athlon.local> Message-ID: <009a01c3681e$de12afa0$1901a8c0@belgarath> > > Folks, > > > > In response to the many recent questions about the pub. > > > > Age: > > > > We have a fairly mixed bag of 20s, 30s, 40s. For those worried about being > > stuck with old gits like Dave, > > Cheeky S*D. > > -- > David Bottrill > > Gah, mike beat me to it ian From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sun Aug 24 21:37:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Ashley Heath) Date: Sun Aug 24 20:37:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Revolution OS Message-ID: <20030824203626.4fcb870f.ashley.heath@bigfoot.com> Just wondering if anyone has a copy of Revolution OS. A couple of the other LUGs have had/or due to have screenings at their meetings, wouldn't mind borrowing a copy or better still have a public viewing at one of our meetings if anyone can get hold of it. For anyone who hasn't a clue what I am talking about see below or have a look at the website http://www.revolution-os.com This is the run down from the website -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REVOLUTION OS tells the inside story of the hackers who rebelled against the proprietary software model and Microsoft to create GNU/Linux and the Open Source movement. On June 1, 2001, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said "Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches." Microsoft fears GNU/Linux, and rightly so. GNU/Linux and the Open Source & Free Software movements arguably represent the greatest threat to Microsoft's way of life. Shot in cinemascope on 35mm film in Silicon Valley, REVOLUTION OS tracks down the key movers and shakers behind Linux, and finds out how and why Linux became such a potent threat. REVOLUTION OS features interviews with Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman, Bruce Perens, Eric Raymond, Brian Behlendorf, Michael Tiemann, Larry Augustin, Frank Hecker, and Rob Malda. To view the trailer or the first eight minutes go to the ifilm website for REVOLUTION OS. Companies such as Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Ogilvy & Mather, OSDN, and Dreamworks Animation have rented REVOLUTON OS for private theatrical screenings. It has also screened in numerous film festivals including South By Southwest Film Festival, the Atlanta Film & Video Festival, Boston Film Festival, and Denver International Film Festival. REVOLUTION OS won Best Documentary at both the Savannah Film & Video Festival and the Kudzu Film Festival. REVOLUTION OS is available in the 35 mm motion picture format and runs 85 minutes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Tue Aug 26 19:59:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mike Hemstock) Date: Tue Aug 26 18:59:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] IRC meeting Message-ID: <200308261959.23035.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> Hi folks, For anyone who's thrown by Bank Holidays, there is an IRC meeting at 21:00 tonight! Mike. From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Wed Aug 27 23:35:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Mike Hemstock) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:35:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Derby Community Wireless LAN Message-ID: <200308272234.34957.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> Folks, Following the advent of 802.11b wireless networking, a few innovative people have set upon the idea of Community Wireless LANs. The idea being to wire people together onto a giant wireless LAN. Offering 11Mbs connections to those services available on the LAN and gateways to the internet. A few friends and I have set upon the idea of setting up a Community Wireless LAN here in Derby and are appealing to the better nature of the people of SDerby LUG for assistance in setting this up. The idea is very much in the earliy stages at the moment, but what we need is some innovative people to help get if off the ground. If anyone is interested I'm willing to give a presentation on the idea at the next LUG meeting on Sunday, but as a basic guide the initial plan is as follows. Firstly we need a number of people in and around Derby to act as nodes that local people can access. Those nodes that are close enought together can be linked. Eventually as we get more and more nodes we will have a network which should span most of Derby. We will need: * Volenteers to setup nodes * Locations (as high as possible) * Kit (old PCs to use as nodes * Old compact flash cards (to be used instead of HDDs) * Wireless kit * People who know a lot about radio propergation * A webmaster * Anything I've missed * etc Initially, please subscribe to the Derby Community Wireless LAN mailing list if you are interested. http://www.derbywireless.net/mailman/listinfo Also, there is a very nice prime node location in the centre of Derby with excellent line of site, known as the DRI nurses accomodation (yes, that bleedin' high block of flats!) If anyone knows anyone who can give the nod, please let me know! Many thanks, Mike. From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Thu Aug 28 09:45:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dan Peachey) Date: Thu Aug 28 08:45:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Derby Community Wireless LAN References: <200308272234.34957.hemstock@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <000f01c36d37$bbe5bc10$520010ac@derbycollege.ac.uk> Hi, Just to add to Mike's e-mail, I have set up a node on the rooftop of Derby College in Pride Park Way. It's basically an old PC running Debian with the HostAP wireless drivers which allows the 802.11b card in the PC to act as an access point so people can connect to it with client adaptors. The wireless card is connected to a 12db Omni antenna so this should give good coverage over parts of Alvaston, Allenton and Chaddesden - possibly even further to Shelton Lock and Chellaston - but I'm not sure yet as I haven't done much testing so far. There is no broadband connection on the node currently but if there is interest shown in getting a wireless network setup around Derby then connecting to broadband from this node is a possibility. If anyone wants any info about connecting to the node just drop me an e-mail. Cheers, Dan From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 29 12:13:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Flash¹³ Egis-Minsky) Date: Fri Aug 29 11:13:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Derby Community Wireless LAN Message-ID:

Wouldnt it also be possible to "share" internet connection across all the "client" pcs that have they're own connection?

sorry i have no kit or expertise, but i'm willing to climb insanly tall buildings if needed lol

Flash¹³:God

Have more fun with your mobile - add polyphonic ringtones, java games, celebrity voicemails and loads more! Click here for phone fun. From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 29 12:13:02 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (stuart.marshall4) Date: Fri Aug 29 11:13:02 2003 Subject: [Sderby] wireless LAN Message-ID: <001901c36d8a$af91fac0$6401a8c0@k0w2m4> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C36D93.112D2FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike I Know a bit about radio and 2.4 Ghz and would like to help but live in = Tamworth will be at meeting on Sunday pos: a bit late got a radio rally = at Telford till about 2.00 Stuart G6NHG ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C36D93.112D2FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mike
I Know a bit about radio and 2.4 = Ghz and=20 would like to help but live in Tamworth will be at meeting on Sunday = pos: a bit=20 late got a radio rally at Telford till about 2.00
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C36D93.112D2FE0-- From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Fri Aug 29 13:39:01 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Dan Peachey) Date: Fri Aug 29 12:39:01 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Derby Community Wireless LAN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0D801D50A6195E4CA4BD9CA22A5C1DEEC9F6@jimbo.derby-college.ac.uk> Yeah its possible. Everyone would have to run a routing protocol like OSPF, and clients with a broadband connection would advertise a default route. Also probably have to use something like equal cost multipath routing to balance load over the default routes. I don=92t think it = would be possible to load balance on a per packet basis, so if you are downloading something your speed will be limited to the speed of the broadband link your TCP session was initiated through. There is a wealth of possibilities though, especially if people are able to run a Linux box to connect to the wireless network. Cheers, Dan -----Original Message----- From: sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:sderby-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Flash=B9=B3 Egis-Minsky Sent: 28 August 2003 13:53 To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Sderby] Derby Community Wireless LAN Wouldnt it also be possible to "share" internet connection across all the "client" pcs that have they're own connection? sorry i have no kit or expertise, but i'm willing to climb insanly tall buildings if needed lol Flash=B9=B3:God=20 Have more fun with your mobile - add polyphonic ringtones, java games, celebrity voicemails and loads more! Click here for phone fun. _______________________________________________ Sderby mailing list Sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/sderby Web site: http://sderby.lug.org.uk/ wiki: http://www.sderby.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl=20 From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 30 11:08:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (Flash¹³ Egis-Minsky) Date: Sat Aug 30 10:08:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Derby Community Wireless LAN Message-ID:

so theoretically, everyone could download at the total bandwidth for that wi-fi? (to the point of bottleneck)

Sounds good, I live in Castle Donington, and i oculd have a word with the school here, they mite oblige

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Yeah its possible. Everyone would have to run a routing protocol like
OSPF, and clients with a broadband connection would advertise a default
route. Also probably have to use something like equal cost multipath
routing to balance load over the default routes. I don’t think it would
be possible to load balance on a per packet basis, so if you are
downloading something your speed will be limited to the speed of the
broadband link your TCP session was initiated through.
There is a wealth of possibilities though, especially if people are able
to run a Linux box to connect to the wireless network.
Cheers, Dan
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Subject: [Sderby] Derby Community Wireless LAN
Wouldnt it also be possible to "share" internet connection across all
the "client" pcs that have they're own connection?
sorry i have no kit or expertise, but i'm willing to climb insanly tall
buildings if needed lol
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Hardware -------- Orchid Righteous Voodoo 3DFX card (4MB PCI) Free to good home 2 x ISA Network Cards (3com) Free to good home Diamond Supra 56K PCI Winmodem (linux Drivers are available) =A35.00 Books ----- Debian GNU/Linux Bible (Hungry Minds) =A35.00 Linux for NT/2000 Administrators The Secret Decoder Ring (Sybex) =A35.00 Full Boxed Distros including manuals ------------------------------------ Suse Linux 8.1 Free to good home Suse Linux 7.3 Free to good home Misc ---- Several Linux Format DVD's (Jan-Sept 2003) From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 30 20:10:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (andy swindell) Date: Sat Aug 30 19:10:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] ppc linux Message-ID: Hello!, simple question for you all, i have used in the past both mandrake 8.2 & suse 8 on a X86 pc. I currently have a imac revision 1 (old style) that I am using until finances will allow any upgrades. How easy/hard is it to install a linux distro on this machine - or would it be easier to wait until a can lay my hands on an intel based machine. I know there are ppc versions of linux out there, but I cant seem to find anyone who knows the first thing about them. hoping you can help. From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 30 20:36:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Bottrill) Date: Sat Aug 30 19:36:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] Clearout In-Reply-To: <20030830110939.0f41d1d3.ashley.heath@bigfoot.com> References: <20030830110939.0f41d1d3.ashley.heath@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: <1062268572.2564.6.camel@athlon.local> On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 11:09, Ashley Heath wrote: > If anyone wants any of the following, let me know and I'll bring it alo= ng to the meeting on Sunday. >=20 > Hardware > -------- > Orchid Righteous Voodoo 3DFX card (4MB PCI) Free to good home > 2 x ISA Network Cards (3com) Free to good home > Diamond Supra 56K PCI Winmodem (linux Drivers are available) =A35.00 >=20 A mate of mine from work is looking for a better video card for his linux box so if nobody's interrested then I will take it. > Books > ----- > Debian GNU/Linux Bible (Hungry Minds) =A35.00 I will take the Deb book. > Linux for NT/2000 Administrators The Secret Decoder Ring (Sybex) =A35.0= 0 >=20 > Full Boxed Distros including manuals > ------------------------------------ > Suse Linux 8.1 Free to good home > Suse Linux 7.3 Free to good home >=20 > Misc > ---- > Several Linux Format DVD's (Jan-Sept 2003) Dave --=20 David Bottrill From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 30 20:51:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Robson) Date: Sat Aug 30 19:51:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] ppc linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200308301952.53904.david.robson@virgin.net> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 30 August 2003 7:10 pm, andy swindell wrote: > Hello!, > simple question for you all, i have used in the past both mandrake 8.2 & > suse 8 on a X86 pc. I currently have a imac revision 1 (old style) that I > am using until finances will allow any upgrades. How easy/hard is it to > install a linux distro on this machine - or would it be easier to wait > until a can lay my hands on an intel based machine. I know there are ppc > versions of linux out there, but I cant seem to find anyone who knows the > first thing about them. > last time i checekd suse did a PPC version, i've been lead to believe its j= ust=20 like the x86 version from a user point of view, as for what the minimum=20 hardware requierments are for it, i have no idea..... on a seperate note, the samba.conf setting i was trying to remember in the = pub=20 on friday is.... default devmode =3D Yes in the printers block of samba.conf - i need this to make the printer work= =20 with a XP client.... more info on it can be found: http://samba.irc.gr/samba/ftp/docs/htmldocs/smb.conf.5.html#DEFAULTDEVMODE anyway - hope that helps :) =2D --=20 Rob GnuPG key: 1024D/309586CA =46ingerprint: 952A 4EB9 CC81 F30A 35CF D473 BF12 FD80 3095 86CA Key available at http://pgp.mit.edu =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/UPKEvxL9gDCVhsoRAtckAKCvZAc3A3WAx1SMZ6r+q2isPJ649wCfaPxN k7pQRpnu7jsJFqYzyhIICJU=3D =3DUQy5 =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk Sat Aug 30 23:33:00 2003 From: sderby at mailman.lug.org.uk (David Bottrill) Date: Sat Aug 30 22:33:00 2003 Subject: [Sderby] ppc linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1062279178.2560.11.camel@athlon.local> On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 19:10, andy swindell wrote: > Hello!, > simple question for you all, i have used in the past both mandrake 8.2 & > suse 8 on a X86 pc. I currently have a imac revision 1 (old style) that I > am using until finances will allow any upgrades. How easy/hard is it to > install a linux distro on this machine - or would it be easier to wait > until a can lay my hands on an intel based machine. I know there are ppc > versions of linux out there, but I cant seem to find anyone who knows the > first thing about them. > > > hoping you can help. I have played with an old version os SuSE on an PowerMac 840AV with accelerator card and it was just like using SuSE on a PC. At the time you had to boot a minimum MACOS and then boot linux from a helper program. Hopefully this has now improved as it must have been about 3 years ago when I tried it. The most mentioned PPC version of Linux is "Yellow Dog" it seems to be most highly recommended. Dave -- David Bottrill