[Sussex] Re: Sussex digest, Vol 1 #70 - 12 msgs

Angelo Servini angelo at servini.freeserve.co.uk
Mon Nov 4 19:19:01 UTC 2002


Hi Fellas

Just a note:  Can you get an RPM for "Ambience?"  sssssiih - (sound of
sharp intake of breath, n' everybody takes one step away from the
offender).

Seriously enough I might join you all if you make up your minds where to
hold your get together.

Angelo.

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>    1. RE: Linux Newbie on the street (Steve Dobson)
>    2. RE: Test (Steve Dobson)
>    3. Re: Test (Natalie S. Ford)
>    4. Re: Test (Nik Butler)
>    5. Test^H^H^H^H Christmas Meeting (Geoff Teale)
>    6. RE: Test (Steve Dobson)
>    7. RE: Christmas Meeting (Steve Dobson)
>    8. RE: Test (Geoff Teale)
>    9. RE: Christmas Meeting (Geoff Teale)
>   10. RE: Christmas Meeting (Steve Dobson)
>   11. RE: Christmas Meeting (Geoff Teale)
>   12. RE: Christmas Meeting (Jon Fautley)
> 
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> 
> Message: 1
> From: Steve Dobson <SDobson at manh.com>
> To: "'sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk'" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: RE: [Sussex] Linux Newbie on the street
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:18:07 -0500 
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> Geoff/Angelo
> 
> On 03 November 2002 11:26 The ol' tealeg wrote:
> > Morning all,
> 
> Good Evening
> 
> > This is geoff incase my home e-mail address confuses you guys... ;)
> 
> I knew that - but only because tealeg appears in your GPG key which
> I have just signed :-)
> 
> > On 02 Nov 2002 11:21:59 +0000
> > Angelo Servini <angelo at servini.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > 
> > Hi Angelo - good to see you on the list!
> > 
> > [Chaps, Angelo is a colleague of mine - I'm working on 
> > bringing them over to LINUX one at a time ;) ]
> 
> Are - the craftsman approach - that will take to long we need to 
> get them to come over on mass [Vague reference to Good Omens in 
> there if you look hard ;-)]
>  
> > <snip>
> > 
> > > 2/  Is it possible to get Mozilla to connect to the 
> > > internet (I have a modem 56k connection) as soon as
> > > I click on its icon?  At the moment I have to first
> > >  activate the modem connection then click on the Icon.
> > 
> > Angelo.  Could have told you this at work - but I wanted to 
> > get you into the habit of using the internet as your prime 
> > resource for finding out about LINUX - it really is the best 
> > way to learn.
> 
> I disagree here (but only a little bit).  The best way of learning
> is from one peers - but I agree its the prime way.
> 
> > What you need to do is run a daemon called diald - this 
> > daemon (a daemon is like a "Service" in windows) reacts to 
> > requests for network services and will raise a ppp link if 
> > one does not automatically exist.
> 
> I may switch over to using daild myself (even after what I said
> on my other posting).  Now I have the WiFi up and running I don't
> want to log in to the dailer to get it to connect to my ISP.
> 
> > Go to www.freshmeat.net and search for "diald" you should 
> > find it straight off.  Try and work it out for yourself from 
> > there.  If you need more help after that write back to the 
> > list or give me a shout at work.
> 
> There must be an RPM for it - he is running RH8 after all.
>  
> <snip>
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 2
> From: Steve Dobson <SDobson at manh.com>
> To: "'sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk'" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: RE: [Sussex] Test
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:34:05 -0500 
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> Guys
> 
> On 01 November 2002 at 22:16 Nik Butler wrote:
> > well I might suggest a gatwick meet as its capable of 
> > handling a variety of
> > visitors and is great for access after drinks...
> > 
> > 
> > and a variety of resturaunts and meals as well as some cool 
> > last minute
> > shopping for many ;-) besides the arcase is kewl ....
> 
> Please no....... (Nik are you mad?)
> 
> Gatwick's parking is expensive, the seats are uncomfortable
> and there is no ambience in any of the "restaurants".
> 
> On the plus site it does have good train access.
> 
>                     N   N
>                     NN  N  oo
> But on reflection - N N N o  o
>                     N  NN o  o
>                     N   N  oo
> 
> Have I made myself clear? :-)
> 
> In other (more polite words) I don't think Gatwick is a 
> good place for a Christmas meet/meet.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:19:19 +0000
> From: "Natalie S. Ford" <natalie at ourshack.com>
> To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Sussex] Test
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 02:34:05PM -0500, Steve Dobson wrote:
> > In other (more polite words) I don't think Gatwick is a 
> > good place for a Christmas meet/meet.
> 
> <aol>
> Hear hear!  Me too!  ;-)
> </aol>
> 
> -- 
> Natalie S. Ford   .................................   natalie at ourshack.com
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:39:59 +0000
> From: Nik Butler <nik at wired4life.org>
> To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Sussex] Test
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> > Please no....... (Nik are you mad?)
> aaaaah c'mon. the resturaunts are average , the parking irrelevant if you park
> in crawley ( for free I might add ) and get a train ( 1.20 return ) and the
> associatted resturaunts are not to shabby. on the and you have excellent
> access for anyone arriveing by train ( which Im taking as the route for those
> in favour of drinking or in need of easy access ) .
> 
> As for ambience <grin> I say we bring our own ... heheh 
> > Have I made myself clear? :-)
> yeah... but it was just a first suggestion, rein in the virtriol <grin>
> 
> 
> and I thought about it cause I actually considered a convenient place for Mrs
> Ford to get access to as well as any other members who need good access.. that
> was all. 
> 
> 
> most places to meet for drinks and food by now are a real bitch to reserve.
> 
> Still if we are all in consensus as to no at Gatwick is there somewhere where
> we can ensure 
> 
> 1. Ease of Access for all members
> 2. Good available parking and transport
> 3. good choice of meals and drinks.
> 4. options of after meal entertainment .... 
> 
> 
> Ho hum
> 
> Nik
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 5
> From: Geoff Teale <Geoff.Teale at claybrook.co.uk>
> To: "'sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk'" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:43:36 -0000
> Subject: [Sussex] Test^H^H^H^H Christmas Meeting
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> 
> Nik wrote:
> ----------
> > aaaaah c'mon. the resturaunts are average , the parking 
> > irrelevant if you park
> > in crawley ( for free I might add ) and get a train ( 1.20 
> > return ) and the
> > associatted resturaunts are not to shabby. on the and you 
> > have excellent
> > access for anyone arriveing by train ( which Im taking as the 
> > route for those
> > in favour of drinking or in need of easy access ) .
> 
> It's true that pretty much everyone from Brighton westward can get a train
> to Gatwick pretty easily.  I imagine anyone coming from East of there would
> have to go into London and come down.
> 
> I would certainly be in favour of a Gatwick meet purely for my own
> convenience.  A could probably put a couple of people up at my place in East
> Grinstead (only a short cab ride from Gatwick) if they wished.
> 
> > As for ambience <grin> I say we bring our own ... heheh 
> 
> Yeah, the company you keep is more important than the food that you eat.. :)
> 
> Still Gatwick is not the nicest place in the world.  We could go the other
> way - down to Brighton - there are some very good Restaurants down there!
> >From an atmosphere point of view you can't beat Mamma Cherie's Soul Food
> Shack - deep fried catfish and jumbalay is a real Christmas dish ;)
> 
> > and I thought about it cause I actually considered a 
> > convenient place for Mrs
> > Ford to get access to as well as any other members who need 
> > good access.. that
> > was all. 
> 
> There are two good points here - 
> 
> 1. Access.   I agreee that this is a concern.  Good thinking.
> 
> 2. Partners.  Natalie is on the list, and is a geek ("chicks dig LINUX" -
> although in Natalies case that should read "Ladies prefer LINUX, but they
> marry OS X"), however, should we bring partners with us?  In some respects
> this would make yet another christmas meal / night out more politically
> acceptable for those of us who are married.  In all likelyhood the Mrs's
> won't want to come - but they do like to be invited ;)
> 
>  
> > most places to meet for drinks and food by now are a real 
> > bitch to reserve.
> 
> Agreed.  Thus we should go for somewhere people wouldn't book for Christmas.
> I dunno about you guys but I won't be needing another portion of turkey
> around that time ;)
>  
> > Still if we are all in consensus as to no at Gatwick is there 
> > somewhere where
> > we can ensure 
> > 
> > 1. Ease of Access for all members
> > 2. Good available parking and transport
> > 3. good choice of meals and drinks.
> > 4. options of after meal entertainment .... 
> 
> On the first point:  Lets take a vote. Mail in (by Friday please - lets keep
> it breif) either for Gatwick, Brighton, or make a suggestion of your own.
> Please don't suggest Rye, or Chichester! - let's try and keep to the line
> running roughly through the center of Sussex, I know this is a long way for
> some of you, but it's the fairest in general
> 
>  
> > Ho hum
> 
> Ho -hum  indeed... 
>  
> - Geoff
> -- 
> GJT
> geoff.teale at claybrook.co.uk
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> From: Steve Dobson <SDobson at manh.com>
> To: "'sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk '" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: RE: [Sussex] Test
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 04:11:12 -0500 
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> Nik/Everyone
> 
> On 11/3/2002 at 3:39 PM Nik Butler wrote
> > Please no....... (Nik are you mad?)
> > aaaaah c'mon. the resturaunts are average,
>                                     ^ At best
> >                                            the parking irrelevant if
> > you park in crawley (for free I might add) and get a train (1.20 return)
> and
>               ^ Then why not party in Crawley?
> > the associatted resturaunts are not to shabby. on the and you have
> excellent
> > access for anyone arriveing by train ( which Im taking as the route for
> > those> in favour of drinking or in need of easy access ) .
> >
> > As for ambience <grin> I say we bring our own ... heheh 
> 
> I tried to buy a bottle of "Ambience" in PC World this morning.  They didn't
> have any.  Which of those non-Geek shops sells the stuff.
> 
> > > Have I made myself clear? :-)
> > yeah... but it was just a first suggestion, rein in the virtriol <grin>
> 
> School report: Must try harder next time!
> 
> > and I thought about it cause I actually considered a convenient place
> > for Mrs Ford to get access to as well as any other members who need good
> > access.. that was all. 
> 
> The problem there is that Natalie agrees with me that Gatport Airwick is not
> a place that she thinks is right.
> 
> > most places to meet for drinks and food by now are a real bitch to
> > reserve.
> 
> All to true :-(
> 
> I did raise the subject a few weeks back (two months) but nothing happended.
> At this stage I would suggest that we just pick a pub somewhere mid-week.
> 
> > Still if we are all in consensus as to no at Gatwick is there somewhere
> > where we can ensure 
> >
> > 1. Ease of Access for all members
> > 2. Good available parking and transport
> > 3. good choice of meals and drinks.
> > 4. options of after meal entertainment .... 
> 
> Count so far:
> 
> Gatwick:     1 (Nik)
> Non-Gatwick: 2 (Natalie & Steve)
> 
> Okay the rest of you Slugs it to commit.  How many are up for a Christmas 
> bash?
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 7
> From: Steve Dobson <SDobson at manh.com>
> To: "''sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk' '" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: RE: [Sussex] Christmas Meeting
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 04:42:20 -0500 
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> Geoff/All
> 
> Guess I should have read you e-mail before replying to Nik's.
> 
> On 11/4/2002 at 3:43 AM Geoff Teale wrote:
> > Nik wrote:
> > > aaaaah c'mon. the resturaunts are average , the parking 
> > > irrelevant if you park
> > > in crawley ( for free I might add ) and get a train ( 1.20 
> > > return ) and the
> > > associatted resturaunts are not to shabby. on the and you 
> > > have excellent
> > > access for anyone arriveing by train ( which Im taking as the 
> > > route for those
> > > in favour of drinking or in need of easy access ) .
> >
> > It's true that pretty much everyone from Brighton westward can get a
> > train to Gatwick pretty easily.  I imagine anyone coming from East of
> > there would have to go into London and come down.
> 
> No it not to bad.  Trains from Eastbourne go via Lewis and then on up
> to Gatwick (takes about an hour).  From Hastings the train goes into
> Eastbourne and the buddy up.
> 
> I agree that Gatwick has good access.  I (and Mrs. Ford) just don't like
> the place for a Christmas party.
> 
> > I would certainly be in favour of a Gatwick meet purely for my own
> > convenience.  A could probably put a couple of people up at my place in
> > East Grinstead (only a short cab ride from Gatwick) if they wished.
> 
> Okay that makes it 2:2.  We need someone else to break the dead lock.
> Cast your votes now!!!!!
> 
> > > As for ambience <grin> I say we bring our own ... heheh 
> >
> > Yeah, the company you keep is more important than the food that you
> > eat.. :)
> 
> True, but rememeber "Stale BR sandwiches do not a Christmas Feast make."
>  
> > Still Gatwick is not the nicest place in the world.  We could go the
> > other way - down to Brighton - there are some very good Restaurants down
> > there!
> 
> A much better idea.  Rather than pick one join just paint the town red.
> Or as much of it as we can stagger to (mobility limits [alcohol & physical
> included).
> 
> > From an atmosphere point of view you can't beat Mamma Cherie's Soul Food
> > Shack - deep fried catfish and jumbalay is a real Christmas dish ;)
> 
> I now see the point behind Gatwick.  We can each eat the food of our 
> choice.  Geoff in Mamma Cherie's, me (I quite like the sound of the catfish
> and jambalay - but for the sake of this argument) in the Pizza Hut, Nik in
> Harry Ramsden's, Gareth in McDonald's.  We find a power point somewhere in 
> the middle to plug in the WiFi basestation so we can "talk" via e-mail.
> 
> > > and I thought about it cause I actually considered a 
> > > convenient place for Mrs
> > > Ford to get access to as well as any other members who need 
> > > good access.. that was all. 
> >
> > There are two good points here - 
> > 
> > 1. Access.   I agreee that this is a concern.  Good thinking.
> 
> True - but that depends on who can make it.
> 
> > 2. Partners.  Natalie is on the list, and is a geek ("chicks dig LINUX"
> >  - although in Natalies case that should read "Ladies prefer LINUX, but
> >     they marry OS X"), however, should we bring partners with us?
> >     In some respects this would make yet another christmas meal / night
> >     out more politically acceptable for those of us who are married.  In
> >     all likelyhood the Mrs's won't want to come - but they do like to be
> >     invited ;)
> 
> Only if you have one.  I'm not going to go out and rent one myself ;-)
> 
> > > most places to meet for drinks and food by now are a real 
> > > bitch to reserve.
> >
> > Agreed.  Thus we should go for somewhere people wouldn't book for
> > Christmas.
> 
> As I said in my other e-mail - lets just pick a pub somewhere
> 
> > I dunno about you guys but I won't be needing another portion of turkey
> > around that time ;)
> 
> I like turkey - so I don't mind
>  
> > > Still if we are all in consensus as to no at Gatwick is there 
> > > somewhere where
> > > we can ensure 
> > >
> > > 1. Ease of Access for all members
> > > 2. Good available parking and transport
> > > 3. good choice of meals and drinks.
> > > 4. options of after meal entertainment .... 
> >
> > On the first point:  Lets take a vote. Mail in (by Friday please - lets
> > keep it breif) either for Gatwick, Brighton, or make a suggestion of your
> > own.
> 
> My vote is for Brighton.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 8
> From: Geoff Teale <Geoff.Teale at claybrook.co.uk>
> To: "'sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk'" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: RE: [Sussex] Test
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:49:55 -0000
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> 
> Steve wrote:
> ------------
> >               ^ Then why not party in Crawley?
> 
> Thus speaks a man who hasn't spent any time in Crawley!
> 
> 
> > I tried to buy a bottle of "Ambience" in PC World this 
> > morning.  They didn't
> > have any.  Which of those non-Geek shops sells the stuff.
> 
> Isn't "ambience" a posh word for that warm feeling you get and the slight
> fuzziness around the edge of your vision after a couple of double Higland
> Park Special Reserves?  Or is that just me?
>  
> > The problem there is that Natalie agrees with me that Gatport 
> > Airwick is not
> > a place that she thinks is right.
> 
> OK, yup, saw that.. I cast my vote for Brighton.. if we can get somewhere
> there that is.  
>  
> > All to true :-(
> > 
> > I did raise the subject a few weeks back (two months) but 
> > nothing happended.
> 
> Yup, remember you saying.
> 
> > At this stage I would suggest that we just pick a pub 
> > somewhere mid-week.
> 
> I'm sure we can find someplace..
> 
> Revised Count so far:
>  
> Gatwick     : 1 (Nik)
> Brighton	: 1 (Geoff)
> 
> Non-Gatwick : 2 (Natalie & Steve)
> I'd consider suggesting somewhere (Steve, Natalie.. ) a vote for  "not
> Gatwick" is pretty much useless - besides which I don't think Natalie
> actually formally voted!
> 
> -- 
> GJT
> geoff.teale at claybrook.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 9
> From: Geoff Teale <Geoff.Teale at claybrook.co.uk>
> To: "'sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk'" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: RE: [Sussex] Christmas Meeting
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:53:23 -0000
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> We're posting a cross purposes here :)
> 
> Current Revised Voting - jeez...:
> 
> Gatwick	:	1 (Nik)
> Brighton	:	2 (Geoff & Steve)
> 
> BTW, Mamma Cheries is a very good restaurant in Brighton - not Gatwick !
> 
> - Geoff
> 
> 
> -- 
> GJT
> geoff.teale at claybrook.co.uk
> 
> 
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> Message: 10
> From: Steve Dobson <SDobson at manh.com>
> To: "''sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk' '" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: RE: [Sussex] Christmas Meeting
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 05:43:55 -0500 
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> Geoff
> 
> You forgot Nat's response:
> 
> Gatport:        1 (Nik)
> Brighton:       2 (Geoff & Steve)
> Not-Gatport:    1 (Nat)
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 11
> From: Geoff Teale <Geoff.Teale at claybrook.co.uk>
> To: "'sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk'" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: RE: [Sussex] Christmas Meeting
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:57:01 -0000
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
> 
> Steve wrote:
> ------------
> > Geoff
> > 
> > You forgot Nat's response:
> > 
> > Gatport:        1 (Nik)
> > Brighton:       2 (Geoff & Steve)
> > Not-Gatport:    1 (Nat)
> 
> OK, I guess.. although I'd rather see an actual vote from her.
> 
> It would also be good if people would indicate if they do not intend to come
> - just to get some ball park figures.  Right now it looks like it'll Me,
> Steve, Nik and the Fords... it would be very easy to arrange an evening out
> for the 5 of us ;)
> 
> All of this is making a nice diversion from work - which is, as ever, a long
> period of monotonous inanity punctuated only by the pleasant glow of a BSOD
> every few hours.. 
> 
> -- 
> GJT
> geoff.teale at claybrook.co.uk
> 
> 
>  
> 
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:59:46 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Jon Fautley <jon at geekpeople.net>
> To: "''sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk' '" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: RE: [Sussex] Christmas Meeting
> Reply-To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
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> 
> > > Nik wrote:
> > > > aaaaah c'mon. the resturaunts are average , the parking
> > > > irrelevant if you park
> > > > in crawley ( for free I might add ) and get a train ( 1.20
> > > > return ) and the
> > > > associatted resturaunts are not to shabby. on the and you
> > > > have excellent
> > > > access for anyone arriveing by train ( which Im taking as the
> > > > route for those
> > > > in favour of drinking or in need of easy access ) .
> > >
> > > It's true that pretty much everyone from Brighton westward can get a
> > > train to Gatwick pretty easily.  I imagine anyone coming from East of
> > > there would have to go into London and come down.
> >
> > No it not to bad.  Trains from Eastbourne go via Lewis and then on up
> > to Gatwick (takes about an hour).  From Hastings the train goes into
> > Eastbourne and the buddy up.
> >
> > I agree that Gatwick has good access.  I (and Mrs. Ford) just don't like
> > the place for a Christmas party.
> 
> Aww, nowt wrong with Gatwick. South terminal, anyway, not those foreigners
> in the north. Admittedly it's expensive and the staff have all the
> personaltity of a dead pigeon, but it's a nice place to be when working.
> Oh, wait, christmas party, not working. Sorry... it's a sheet place to
> hold a christmas party, but I hear the Hilton over the road is quite nice,
> if not expensive and prolly fully booked.
> 
> > > I would certainly be in favour of a Gatwick meet purely for my own
> > > convenience.  A could probably put a couple of people up at my place in
> > > East Grinstead (only a short cab ride from Gatwick) if they wished.
> >
> > Okay that makes it 2:2.  We need someone else to break the dead lock.
> > Cast your votes now!!!!!
> 
> Well, Gatwick is v. easy access for me... but I must say that i'd prefer
> brighton, much more exciting :)
> 
> > > > As for ambience <grin> I say we bring our own ... heheh
> > >
> > > Yeah, the company you keep is more important than the food that you
> > > eat.. :)
> >
> > True, but rememeber "Stale BR sandwiches do not a Christmas Feast make."
> 
> lol. That sums up most of the food at LGW actually ;)
> 
> > > Still Gatwick is not the nicest place in the world.  We could go the
> > > other way - down to Brighton - there are some very good Restaurants down
> > > there!
> >
> > A much better idea.  Rather than pick one join just paint the town red.
> > Or as much of it as we can stagger to (mobility limits [alcohol & physical
> > included).
> 
> :) Sounds cool :)
> 
> > > From an atmosphere point of view you can't beat Mamma Cherie's Soul Food
> > > Shack - deep fried catfish and jumbalay is a real Christmas dish ;)
> >
> > I now see the point behind Gatwick.  We can each eat the food of our
> > choice.  Geoff in Mamma Cherie's, me (I quite like the sound of the catfish
> > and jambalay - but for the sake of this argument) in the Pizza Hut, Nik in
> > Harry Ramsden's, Gareth in McDonald's.  We find a power point somewhere in
> > the middle to plug in the WiFi basestation so we can "talk" via e-mail.
> 
> lol. Can prolly nab a phoneline for internet access there too :) But then,
> brighton is full of consume nodes, so...
> 
> > > > and I thought about it cause I actually considered a
> > > > convenient place for Mrs
> > > > Ford to get access to as well as any other members who need
> > > > good access.. that was all.
> > >
> > > There are two good points here -
> > >
> > > 1. Access.   I agreee that this is a concern.  Good thinking.
> >
> > True - but that depends on who can make it.
> 
> <nod>
> 
> > > 2. Partners.  Natalie is on the list, and is a geek ("chicks dig LINUX"
> > >  - although in Natalies case that should read "Ladies prefer LINUX, but
> > >     they marry OS X"), however, should we bring partners with us?
> > >     In some respects this would make yet another christmas meal / night
> > >     out more politically acceptable for those of us who are married.  In
> > >     all likelyhood the Mrs's won't want to come - but they do like to be
> > >     invited ;)
> >
> > Only if you have one.  I'm not going to go out and rent one myself ;-)
> 
> Hmm... Steve, you know somewhere to rent one? Care to pass on the phone
> number to me? ;)
> 
> > > > most places to meet for drinks and food by now are a real
> > > > bitch to reserve.
> > >
> > > Agreed.  Thus we should go for somewhere people wouldn't book for
> > > Christmas.
> >
> > As I said in my other e-mail - lets just pick a pub somewhere
> 
> Yuppers. If we're gonna book, we need to do it now to stand any chance of
> getting a table, especially for the numbers we usually get at the meets.
> 
> > > I dunno about you guys but I won't be needing another portion of turkey
> > > around that time ;)
> >
> > I like turkey - so I don't mind
> 
> I also like turkey, but I have to admit it gets a bit boring over the
> christmas period.
> 
> > > > Still if we are all in consensus as to no at Gatwick is there
> > > > somewhere where
> > > > we can ensure
> > > >
> > > > 1. Ease of Access for all members
> > > > 2. Good available parking and transport
> > > > 3. good choice of meals and drinks.
> > > > 4. options of after meal entertainment ....
> > >
> > > On the first point:  Lets take a vote. Mail in (by Friday please - lets
> > > keep it breif) either for Gatwick, Brighton, or make a suggestion of your
> > > own.
> 
> I vote for... Brighton.
> 
> Jon
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