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highly sought after over other "paper" qualifications.  I know this is not
strictly true, however I'm wondering how possible it would be for someone
like me with extensive knowledge but basically a school leaver, to get a
foot in the door?  
 
I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest by lowish wages (hopefully better
than my peers who left school to go into full time work), or doing donkey
work to begin with.  I do have experience, as I have been working since the
age of 13 as a "freelance computer consultant", advertising in the
Friday-ad, which basically involves mainly simple work such as replacing
dead hard drives, ugprades, troubleshooting Windows problems, networking
etc.  I've never touched on web design, but I managed to come up with
www.modders.net <http://www.modders.net>  in the space of a few hours by
extensively editing a template (without any prior knowledge of html) and
also (semi) incorporated a PHP/MySQL backend with no prior knowledge of that
either, just be using pieces of sample code and things I picked up through
skim-reading tutorials.  I'm an extremely fast learner, and I'm pretty
certain I could have a working knowledge of html, php and mysql with minimum
hassle.
 
Can anyone offer some insight as to whether it's possible?  This isn't
purely hypothetical as I'm not really enjoying college, not because of the
teachers, pupils or lessons, but because I want to get my teeth into
something slightly more practical.  Sorry if I've gone on a bit here, it's
just something I've been thinking about for a while now.
 
Thanks in advance
Adam Smith
 
P.S.  Yes I know I'm using OE, it's not by choice and the situation will be
rectified soon ;).


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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=562133013-06012003>Adam,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=562133013-06012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=562133013-06012003>I left 
6th form after my A's and became a Microsoft Certified Professional (I know, I 
know, but it got me a job ok? :op )  anyway, to cut a long story short, I went 
to one interview after I was made redundant where they told me that I was 
over-qualified for the helpdesk work I was going for, and they were worried that 
I would get bored and leave.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=562133013-06012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=562133013-06012003>Basically, I'd agree that the best thing to do is get 
out there and get some experience.&nbsp; I've since left IT altogether and I'm 
doing a degree after taking 2 years out.&nbsp; I want to become a 
nurse/paramedic and I'm applying to be an auxilary nurse at my local hospital so 
that I have some experience when I apply to do my second degree (the one in 
nursing...).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=562133013-06012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=562133013-06012003>If I 
make it to management level in the course of my career, I am determined that I 
will take experience on equal terms, if not slightly better terms, over 
qualifications, as it tends to demonstrate that people know what they are doing 
and know how to apply what they have learnt...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=562133013-06012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=562133013-06012003>Hope 
this helps,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=562133013-06012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=562133013-06012003>Matt.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Adam Smith 
  [mailto:adamjsmith at clara.co.uk]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 January 2003 
  09:49<BR><B>To:</B> sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Sussex] An 
  odd question....<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi.&nbsp; You guys seem like the right sort of 
  people to ask about this, and I know I'm not going to get my head bitten off 
  for asking here, so I have a little query for you.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm currently at Park College, Eastbourne doing 
  AS levels, planning to go onto university, as this is the normal path to take 
  to get a good career.&nbsp; However, I'm hearing a lot of stories about 
  graduates having serious problems finding work, even after spending ~6 years 
  of their life and thousands of pounds getting a degree.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From what I've read/heard, IT is the kind of 
  industry where experience is highly sought after over other "paper" 
  qualifications.&nbsp; I know this is not strictly true, however I'm wondering 
  how possible it would be for someone like me with extensive knowledge but 
  basically a school leaver, to get a foot in the door?&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest by lowish 
  wages (hopefully better than my peers who left school to go into full time 
  work), or doing donkey work to begin with.&nbsp; I do have experience, as I 
  have been working since the age of 13 as a "freelance computer consultant", 
  advertising in the Friday-ad, which basically involves mainly simple work such 
  as replacing dead hard drives, ugprades, troubleshooting Windows problems, 
  networking etc.&nbsp; I've never touched on web design, but I managed to come 
  up with <A href="http://www.modders.net">www.modders.net</A> in the space of a 
  few hours by extensively editing a template (without any prior knowledge of 
  html) and also (semi) incorporated a PHP/MySQL backend with no prior knowledge 
  of that either, just be using pieces of sample code and things I picked up 
  through skim-reading tutorials.&nbsp; I'm an extremely fast learner, and I'm 
  pretty certain I could have a working knowledge of html, php and mysql with 
  minimum hassle.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can anyone offer some insight as to whether it's 
  possible?&nbsp; This isn't purely hypothetical as I'm not really enjoying 
  college, not because of the teachers, pupils or lessons, but because I want to 
  get my teeth into something slightly more practical.&nbsp; Sorry if I've gone 
  on a bit here, it's just something I've been thinking about for a while 
  now.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks in advance</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Adam Smith</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.S.&nbsp; Yes I know I'm using OE, it's not by 
  choice and the situation will be rectified soon 
;).</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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