<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Thanks Trevor for your helpful comments. I shall reply more fully when I have tried out ome of your suggestions.<br>Frank James<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Trevor Marshall <trevorm@rusham.demon.co.uk><br>To: Sussex LUG <sussex@mailman.lug.org.uk><br>Sent: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 8:52:39 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Sussex] virtual machine software<br><br>FRANK JAMES wrote:<br>> I have been encouraged to have a look at this subject and tried a big <br>> downloaded version from Microsoft that someone had prepared for me. It <br>> seemed to be a way of selling various versions of Vista and I didn't <br>> spend
too long on it.<br>> <br>> I turned my attention to linux programs and found one for Debian. I had <br>> some problems and looked at my laptop with Ubuntu and got into it very <br>> quickly and efficiently.<br>> <br>> Alas the key that I was given for a 15 day trial did not work so I wait <br>> for another. Then I can have (I hope), a virtual Mandriva, Red Hat and <br>> Fedoro to have a look at!<br>> <br>> This may be old hat for most of you, but I found it quite interesting.<br><br><br>There are several virtual machine implementations for Linux, and very <br>few of them need keys... even the free-as-in-beer versions. VMware's <br>VMware Server <<a href="http://www.vmware.com/products/server/" target="_blank">http://www.vmware.com/products/server/</a>>is free-as-in-beer <br> not open sourced, but works very well if the licensing works for you. <br> You'll need to register for a serial number, but it
doesn't expire. <br>See here <<a href="http://howtoforge.com/debian_etch_vmware_server_howto" target="_blank">http://howtoforge.com/debian_etch_vmware_server_howto</a>> for <br>some notes on installing it on etch.<br><br>If you'd prefer an open source solution then Xen is a bit more involved <br>but works pretty well - and is available from the Ubuntu repositories, <br>take a look here <<a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen</a>> for more <br>information on Xen and Ubuntu, or here <<a href="http://wiki.debian.org/Xen" target="_blank">http://wiki.debian.org/Xen</a>> for <br>debian.<br><br>I've used both VMware and Xen, at home and in my work, and they both <br>work fine. There's also the Kernel Virtual Machine, or KVM, which I've <br>not yet used. That's also available for Ubuntu, see the notes here <br><<a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM"
target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM</a>>. For debian, KVM ins't in <br>stable...<br><br>To be honest, Xen *is* more effort than VMware, but it's properly free, <br> If you just want to run a guest OS without bothering about fully- or <br>para-virtualised kernels and the differences between them then I'd <br>suggest VMware. If you're willing to put in a bit more effort then Xen <br> is properly free, and is improving all the time. I can't comment on <br>KVM, maybe someone else can?<br><br>Any of the above should allow you to get a guest OS running to try out.<br><br>Hope that helps,<br>--<br>Trevor Marshall<br><br>__ <br>Sussex mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Sussex@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:Sussex@mailman.lug.org.uk">Sussex@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>E-mail Address: <a ymailto="mailto:sussex@mailman.lug.org.uk" href="mailto:sussex@mailman.lug.org.uk">sussex@mailman.lug.org.uk</a><br>Sussex LUG
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