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Steve,<br>
I only joined recently but vaguely recall a set of terms and conditions.<br>
Yes you need a policy decision but what do the present rules say?<br>
Or more importantly what would they have said when the person in question joined.<br>
Are they completely silent on the point?<br>
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A valid point was made that we should be making clear to any new, and existing, members what they are signing up to.<br>
Yes that may be the purpose of the thread and it is important that this is appreciated but I personally would take it for granted that by posting to a forum or similar service means my thoughts are in the public domain.<br>
How can you withdraw what has been done or said in a public domain or a group which is opn to all members? <br>
As many have already said simply deleting them from one place does not delete them from saved copies others might hold and what is then to stop them from reposting?<br>
This would be impossible for you to administer surely.<br>
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Has the person given a reason why they want past posts deleted?<br>
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I agree with most others that you should not have to remove such posts or threads but for slightly different reasons.<br>
The person making statements by such a medium has no right to withdraw their statements nor do they own them.<br>
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Paul<br>
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<-----Original Message-----> <br>
>From: Steve Dobson [steve.dobson@syscall.org.uk]<br>
>Sent: 5/10/2008 5:27:02 PM<br>
>To: sussex@mailman.lug.org.uk<br>
>Subject: Re: [Sussex] List Policy (Removal of submissions)<br>
><br>
>Hi Andy <br>
><br>
>On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 16:08 +0000, Andy Smith wrote: <br>
>> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 12:26:50PM +0100, Steve Dobson wrote: <br>
>> Regardless of what your rules are, you may at some point receive a <br>
>> properly formed take down notice which either you or we (lug.org.uk <br>
>> admins) will be required to act upon. <br>
><br>
>I do not expect any policy decisions arrived at here to take precedence <br>
>over the law. But I kinda expect that it would take a court order (or <br>
>similar notice) for the admins at lug.org.uk to act in that way. Or are <br>
>you saying that you'll modify records if a friend who has a cousin who <br>
>knows some one that is and ex-policeman is all it will take? :-) <br>
><br>
>> If you believe in the <br>
>> sacrosanct nature of the archives I would encourage you to start <br>
>> planning for distributing them *now*. <br>
><br>
>Good advice. But I would thought that you need those servers in other <br>
>legal jurisdictions so one judge or magistrate can't issue one notices <br>
>to all servers. <br>
><br>
>> You may also want to clarify <br>
>> that anyone posting here is granting you/us the right to publish as <br>
>> it is unclear that you/we do have this right for historical mails. <br>
><br>
>That is the whole point of this thread. What ever policy is determined <br>
>here will be posted to the website and added to the welcome message <br>
>issued by mailman. <br>
><br>
>Steve
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