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<br><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; "></div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 06:14:10 +0000</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> From: steve@dobbo.org</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> To: sussex@mailman.lug.org.uk; philcollings60@hotmail.com</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Subject: Re: [Sussex] Ubuntu install</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Hi Phil</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> On 27/11/10 22:39, Desmond Armstrong wrote:</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > On 27/11/10 21:09, PHILIP COLLINGS wrote:</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> >> Hi all,</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> >> I am trying to install ubuntu 10.10 on to a tower that I have built.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> ></span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> >> The cpu is running at 1400 but will go higher, 2.5 gb ram.200gb hdd.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> >> I have been trying to install with live disks which do work on another</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> >> comp I've got. The unit freezes from just after the dos front pages of</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> >> the comp to the boot menu of the disks, or anywhere in between.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> You haven't told us which motherboard and CPU you are using. The speed </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> of the CPU is not really all that important for installation debugging, </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> whether it is an AMD64 or a IA32 processor is much more useful (as is </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> the motherboard make and model).</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Given that you have built a tower I am going to assume that you went </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> down the AMD64 route, they are common and cheep these days so there is </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> really no reason not to (I assume that there are still IA32 motherboards </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> on the market - I haven't checked).</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> I don't have a universal knowledge of all motherboards but the AMD64 </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> motherboards I have played with to date have their memory split into two </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> banks, and you get best system performance if you balance the memory </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> sticks between both banks. If the memory sockets on your motherboard </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> are in two colours then I would suggest that it is very likely that this </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> is the case here.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> 2.5GB of memory is a really odd amount for a AMD64 system. Assuming </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> that you have 2 x 1GB plus 1 x 0.5GB memory sticks I would give serious </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> thought to pulling the 0.5GB unit.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> >> I have as yet to get a full install. the furthest I've got once, was</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> >> the keyboard and time zone settings</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> >> Has any body got any ideas, as I'm beginning to run out of things to try.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> ></span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > The first thing I would check is the CD drive as, if it is worn, this is</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > the sort of problem one gets. So try another CD or DVD drive first.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> ></span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> > But have you had the live CD running properly?</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Desmond is right. You can get some funny errors on failing CD-ROM </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> drivers. But the problem may be more fundamental, it maybe that your </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> motherboard (which I assume you've just purchased) may have hardware not </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> supported by the kernel on the CD-ROM.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> How up to date is your Ubuntu CD? I don't mean when did you download </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> it, I mean when did Canonical master it? Which kernel/driver set is on </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> that CD and does it support all the hardware on your motherboard? I </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> recently installed Debian on a friend's not to old laptop (AMD64) and </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> found that there was an issue with the screen/frame-buffer driver in the </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> kernel itself. In this case it was a bug introduced into the kernel </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> itself, and old version worked fine. You might like to try the previous </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> version of Ubuntu. (Note: AMD64 fully supports IA32 so you can try the </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> old 32-bit software on a newer 64-bit processor, it just doesn't run as </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> fast.)</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> If you're not having any luck with Ubuntu then have you thought of </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> trying another distro. I'm not suggesting that you switch permanently, </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> but trying a different install CD with a different kernel/driver set may </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> work and at least it will prove that your hardware is working properly.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Debian, for example, have just entered the final stages of testing for </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> the 6.0 "squeeze" release. This includes proper support at last for a </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> USB stick network installer. (http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst) As </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Ubuntu is Debian based this should give you something close to what </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> you're use to with Ubuntu.</span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> </span></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;">> Steve</span></font><br><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10pt;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">>hi steve, thanks for the info. i have not just bought the mobo, its one my sister was using for her work that i built for her a while ago.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">>The mobo is a Asrock K7s8x, runs with a north bridge sis 746fx chipset. fsb 333mhz. supports AMD athlon xp socket A cpu`s. >The ram is ddr266 at 2x1gb and 1x.5 gb.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">>the disks are from linux format mag and ones that ive downloaded. </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">> last night i finally managed to get ubuntu 9.10 installed to hdd after trying other os`s like mint ,fedora and puppy. </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">> after all these probs it think its to do with a hardware prob not the os`s.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">> i replaced the cpu that was in it as it was a duron one that my sister used to a 3000 athlon xp, this i think is the prob.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">>I will keep playing around till i get it.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">> Thanks to you and Desmond for the tips. i will keep you posted how i get on.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">>regards phil.</span></font></div> </body>
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