[SWLUG] networking nightmare

[Rhys Sage]

>Summing up, to make sure I've got this right, through RJ45, it fails,
>both trying to get to/from Linux *and* between Windows PCs? Via BNC,
>Windows can see Windows, but Linux can see neither and Windows can't
>see
>Linux?

Not quite. I've not looked for Windows from Linux. Not much need to. The
Linux box will be a monitorless server only. If I can get Windows 98 to see
Windows NT via RJ45, that'll be a good thing.

>If that's the case, stick with BNC for the time being :)

I would but... the PCI card on my Linux box doesn't have a BNC connector. If
it had then I wouldn't have spent fifty quid on the RJ45 cables and hub.

>You said Windows tried to get a DUN connection when you tried to ping
>your linux machine. This suggests Windows doesn't know how to
>communicate with the Linux machine.

With a ping via RJ45, I get 100% loss. I suspect something's not set quite
right on my laptop or my PC. I'll try to bring my laptop to the next meet.
Just checking - it is the Goose in Swansea on the 17th at 7pm?

>What are your IP addresses set to, both on the Linux machine and the
>Windows machines? You can get these values via:
>Linux: /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route
>Windows: it's either "ipconfig" or "ifconfig", I don't remember (or
>just
>use the network settings GUI) and "route print" to get the routing
>table.

Here's a paste of winipconfig and the settings from SME Linux.

                 From the MSDos prompt

                  Microsoft(R) Windows 98
                  (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1998.

                  C:\AWKWARD>ipconfig -all

                  Windows 98 IP Configuration

                  Host Name . . . . . . . . . : PERSIUS
                  DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 195.92.195.95
                  195.92.195.94
                  Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
                  NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
                  IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
                  WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
                  NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

                  0 Ethernet adapter :

                  Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
                  Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
                  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
                  IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 217.134.47.212
                  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                  Default Gateway . . . . . . : 217.134.47.212
                  DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
                  Primary WINS Server . . . . :
                  Secondary WINS Server . . . :
                  Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 00:00:00
                  Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 00:00:00

                  1 Ethernet adapter :

                  Description . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink PCI
                  Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-50-04-36-AB-00
                  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
                  IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.72.239
                  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
                  Default Gateway . . . . . . :
                  DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
                  Primary WINS Server . . . . :
                  Secondary WINS Server . . . :
                  Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 04 06 03 20:58:07
                  Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

                  From the Configuration window

                  Ethernet settings
                  Ethernet driver 1: Tulip
                  Ethernet driver 2:

                  External network settings
                  Operation mode: Server only - dedicated
                  Gateway IP address: 192.168.40.1

                  Local network settings
                  Local IP address: 192.168.40.1
                  Local subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
                  DHCP server: enabled, using host numbers from
192.168.40.65 to
                  192.168.40.250

                  Miscelleneous settings
                  Primary domain name: Sageworld
                  system name: zeus
                  external proxy : no
                  status reports: off
                  console mode: auto

                  contact details
                  contact email:
                  contact name:
                  contact organisation:

I hope that all makes sense to somebody. BTW I was online to the internet
when I did the ipconfig. Zeus is never online - it doesn't have a modem.

>Let me know if you don't know what I'm talking about here and I'll give
>you some values you can fill in.

I'm just guessing that the above is what you asked for.

>I'm guessing your windows machines haven't been given IP addresses for
>your network cards - they only use TCP/IP for their internet (modem)
>connection. This would explain why windows can see windows yet the
>linux box is unpingable.

No. I haven't set any I/P addresses. I can't ping the Linux box when I'm
using BNC because BNC connects solely Aphrodite to Persius. Zeus needs RJ45
and as I gather RJ45 and BNC don't mix, it's a case of either Persius being
connected to Aphrodite via BNC or Persius, Zeus and Aphrodite being
connected by RJ45 to the hub.

>Let us know how you get on :)

Somebody said that the problem might be in Network Neighbourhood in the
configuration panel. Any ideas exactly what I should have there? At the
moment, I have:
Client for Microsoft Networks
Client for NetWare Networks
3com etherlink pci combo nic (3c900b-combo)
dial-up adaptor
ipx/spx-compatible protocol -> 3com etherlink pci combo nic (3c900b-combo)
ipx/spx-compatible protocol -> dial-up adaptor
netbeui -> 3com etherlink pci combo nic (3c900b-combo)
netbeui -> dial-up adaptor
tcp/ip dial-up adaptor
file & printer sharing for microsoft networks

primary network login - windows login
Yours,

Rhys