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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style=" font-size:12pt">John, many thanks. I'll 'consider my options'. Derek</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style=" font-size:12pt">On 3 Sep 2014 at 16:50, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote:</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Hi Derek- </span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> I've had problems before when trying to run Linux on a box with S3 Unichrome graphics, in that they are </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> pretty terrible graphics cards and modern desktops tend to require decent GPU support for the fancy effects </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> (Windows 7 is no different).</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> I'd suggest, given the specs of the machine, that you try a more lightweight distro. You have many (many, </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> many...) options, but here are a few:-</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> * Lubuntu (Ubuntu remix with the LXDE desktop)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> * Xubuntu (Ubuntu remix with the XFCE desktop)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> * Linux Mint MATE (Mint is closely related to Ubuntu. MATE is their fork of the older Gnome 2 </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> desktop) http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2627</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> * Linux Mint XFCE (Mint with XFCE, obviously)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Of these, I'd recommend Mint/MATE by personal preference, and I think it's the most beginner-friendly of </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> the above ... but you can download and burn live CD's or USBs for all of these and try them out without </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> installing</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> If you only have access to a working Windows machine at the moment, you can use UNetBootin to make </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> bootable USB sticks - http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> (Note, for some of the Mint versions above, you may need to download the ISO and then tell UNetBootin to </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> use it. I don't know if it includes the various Mint versions in the distros that it knows about).</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Good luck!</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> John</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> On 3 September 2014 15:06, <amanglo@utvinternet.com > wrote:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Hello,</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> A complete Linux novice, I recently installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS (from Live CD </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> purchased from Canonical) - and downloaded 330.2 Mb of updates - on my desktop. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> The idea was to remove dependence on XP, which was done very effectively as XP </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> was wiped completely by the installation of ubuntu. This was unintended - the </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> hoped-for result was to have XP and ubuntu 'side by side'.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> The ubuntu program operates VERY slowly, often in jerks. Everything - typing, </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> browsing, opening and closing programs - is ultra-slow.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> If anyone can suggest a fix I shall be grateful.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> The PC details are:</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> AMD64 Athlon processor, 3.2 GHz. 120Gb hard disc. 4Gb installed RAM. </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Graphics card VIA S3 UniChrome Pro KT8237.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Selecting "System Settings" > "Details" produces -</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Memory 1.4Gb</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Entering 'top' at the terminal produces - kiB Memory 1468416, kiB Swap 1505276,</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Thanks - Derek</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Graphics Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Processor AMD Athlon (tm) 64 3200+</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> OS Type 64 bit</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt">> Disk 119.4 Gb</span></font></div>
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