[Wolves] Hello - first post from me !

Tim Childe tim.childe.lists at gmail.com
Sat May 7 10:31:59 BST 2005


OK so I'm stupmed again !!!!!!

I've booted from Ubuntu Live (remember I couldn't make a boot disk for some 
reason) and I want to run grub-install

Now it's not in /boot/grub as it was before, as this is the Live version, so 
I mounted my linux partion and looked there.

I found my menu.lst, but still no joy with grub-install.

I've even done a search for files with grub in the name, still no joy

Am I having another "D'Oh!" moment ?????

Alternatively, can someone point me to a boot disk I can use to do the same 
thing !!

Thanks

and I promise that once its working I'll stop asking dumb questions - but 
it's hard to learn Linux when I can't even start it up properly 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tim.C



On 5/6/05, Kevanf1 <kevanf1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 5/6/05, Tim Childe <tim.childe.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Oh how stupid I feel this morning !! Of course it's the extended 
> partition
> > !!
> > What a muppet !!!!!
> >
> > I'll plead extreme tiredness !!!!!
> >
> > Anyway, this idea that I may have hit hde1 instead of hde is quite 
> likely -
> > an easy typo to do.
> >
> > However, reinstalling grub won't help, I don't think, as I'm getting
> > 'invalid media error' from a dos boot for the partition. (It will get my
> > linux back though, which is a start)
> >
> > Unless there is some sort of grub uninstall that will take it back off 
> ??
> >
> > Anyway, must get back to teaching work !!
> >
> > Tim.C
> >
> >
> > On 5/6/05, Adam Sweet <drinky76 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Just realised that this is confusing, it is now
> > > edited. I've removed the > symbols where I edited.
> > >
> > > --- Adam Sweet <drinky76 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > --- Tim Childe <tim.childe.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Also, I can't find my edited fstab to see if the
> > > > > numbers have changed
> > > > > - the one currently in /etc/fstab isn't the one I
> > > > > put the exttra
> > > > > drives in!!!!
> > >
> > > If you mount your Ubuntu / partition /dev/hdf1 as
> > > being on /mnt/hdf1 or whatever you like, the above
> > > file would be at /mnt/hdf1/etc/fstab as it tacks the
> > > hard disk on to the live CDs filesystem which is
> > > entirely in RAM.
> > >
> > > > You could run grub-install again by editing
> > > > /mnt/hdf1/boot/grub/menu.list and then running
> > > >
> > > > /mnt/hdf1/sbin/grub-install /dev/hde
> > > >
> > > > assuming /dev/hde is the boot drive in the BIOS,
> > > > under
> > > > Windows that would contain C:\ D:\ and E:\ etc if I
> > > > remember your explanation correctly.
> > >
> > > If Woo is right and he might be (Woo - yeah. Woo -
> > > yeah), is there a chance that you added a 1 to the end
> > > of grub-install /dev/hde ? Making it write to the
> > > Windows partition instead of the mbr? If fdisk /mbr
> > > still leaves a grub thingy then it's possible.
> > > Hopefully reinstalling grub as above will be solve
> > > everything. Hopefully, the errant grub on /dev/hde1
> > > will not have affected the Windows installation. If it
> > > has, I don't know what to do about that, other than to
> > > say, get your stuff off the disk, reinstall Windows
> > > and reinstall grub as above. Don't do this until there
> > > are not other options.
> > >
> > > Oh, yes I forgot, for some reason that Other Operating
> > > Systems line counts as a grub entry. I'd forgotten all
> > > about that I only had to deal with it once. Sorry, but
> > > you figured that out yourself and it doesn't break
> > > anything if you get it wrong and then change it.
> > >
> > > > Getting there ;)
> > >
> > > Ad again
> > >
> > > --
> 
> Right, I may be totally off the mark here but this is what I would do.
> First, is there anything on the disk that you absolutely cannot
> afford to lose? Is it possible to get at it via the Ubuntu Live CD?
> Assuming you have everything saved that is important if it were me I
> would first of all get hold of drive manufacturers tool disk. These
> are available from the drive makers website...usually. Next step I
> would use the tool disk to clean up and repair the MBR. I would then
> look at re-installing Windows over itself.
> 
> As I say, this is last ditch what I would try. Once Win was up and
> running again ( it was Win 98 wasn't it? Because you'd have to
> install that first prior to any Linux install; Win2k and XP are
> different.) I'd then look at putting Linux back on again.
> 
> --
> Take care.
> Kevan Farmer
> 
> 34 Hill Street
> Cheslyn Hay
> Staffordshire
> WS6 7HR
> 
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Tim.C
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