[Wolves] Samba in an Active Directories environment

[Simon Morris]

On 18/11/05, Peter Cannon <peter at cannon-linux.co.uk> wrote:
> On Friday 18 November 2005 12:35, Simon Morris wrote:
>
>
> > The box is installed without a GUI and I'm using the curses version to
> > install new software.
>
> I've done it that way a couple of times to be honest it seemed (to me) to be
> very similar to Debian in respect of selecting packages.

That is true of dselect, but on Debian I always preferred just using
apt-get anyway.

I guess I'm after the apt equivalent in SUSE (For those about to
scream "But there is apt for SUSE" read on a bit... )

> > In fact if the thread is going this way I would *love* some help from
> > someone who knows more about it than I.
>
> Who would that be then?

Anyone who puts their favourite Distro in their sig is open hunting
season for newbie questions about it AFAICS :D

> > I can install packages with `yast2 -i foo' which is bloody slow
> > compared to apt and other automatic dependancy checkers I've used but
> > how to I search for available packages?
>
> So don't use it then! you can use yum, apt, kpackage and any other installer
> you care to choose. just do yast, packages, apt then you'll be back on home
> ground.

Cool. I'm going to research this but I'll ask it here as well. Which
of the above are available as part of the main SUSE (and SLES) distro?
I'm not going to start using package management software outside of
the default provided tools for the following reasons:

* I have a lot of servers to manage and I don't really want to start
to adding additional overhead to them

* I may want to call Novell for support and knowing "Enterprise"
support if they say "how did you install package foo" and I say "I
installed it using $3RD_PARTY_TOOL" they will say well... we don't
support that. Red Hat have done that to me before.

* I want to be able to hand this system over to any Novell/SUSE
qualified or aware person and they know what the score is. This means
not doing stuff with 3rd party package management. RPM can be fragile
enough sometimes without making things more comple

> Personally I wouldn't as it diminishes the learning curve, better to learn
> alternative package  mediums then you are able to run a wider range of
> distributions.

I agree completely

> > Last night was Nagios night and I can see there are a number of RPMs
> > for this, but without having to navigate the software menus I can't
> > see them. I'd like some output to STDOUT please :)
>
> Um using GUI there are 8 packages

[snip]

Those are the ones. How can I get that information to feed into `yast2
-i' without having to navigate yast itself which is a little slow. Is
there an `apt-cache search' like tool for SUSE?

> > Also within yast it only shows me software by category. How do I see
> > ALL packages in a long list.
>
> Um, uuuummm :-S

Ah. Bugger

> > Well - I also have SUSE10 installed on my laptop with a full Gnome
> > desktop. I haven't been able to find packages for gtkpod or iPodder
> > which I live out of ( Clive Bull LBC 97.3  -- if you haven't listened
> > to his podcast give it a go :) )
>
> I can find gtkpod in Yast, I don't have it installed are you saying you cant
> find it on the menu?

I am, but I think I've just realised that the additional online
package respositories aren't working for me. More to come on that
one....

> > That would be because it is easy to navigate? Try putting a 2 year in
> > front of the curses version and get them to navigate it... I know a 29
> > year old (me) that had problems last night :)
>
> Ah theres your answer you're too old for it :P

Don't.. Birthday next month. I'm going to be 10 years old overnight
(Twenty-something to thirty-something)

> See I might snipe at other Distros but I would never outright slag them off
> this is because any one who slags of something they know nothing about soon
> stands out as a tit trying to impress :)

I've written a lot of mailing list and USENET posts on subjects I have
a vague grasp on (and they typically tend to be long rambling posts)
and I read them before hitting send and think "Hang on, I don't really
have a clue". Better to give little accurate information than lots of
guesswork.


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