<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Sorry I think I got Adam mixed up with Dave even the sodding email system confuses me! <BR>
<DIV><FONT color=#ff7f00 size=3 face="comic sans ms">jenette palmer</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 6/7/09, wolves-request@mailman.lug.org.uk <I><wolves-request@mailman.lug.org.uk></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: wolves-request@mailman.lug.org.uk <wolves-request@mailman.lug.org.uk><BR>Subject: Wolves Digest, Vol 299, Issue 1<BR>To: wolves@mailman.lug.org.uk<BR>Date: Monday, 6 July, 2009, 1:00 PM<BR><BR>
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ymailto="mailto:wolves-owner@mailman.lug.org.uk">wolves-owner@mailman.lug.org.uk</A><BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of Wolves digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR> 1. Re: Wolves Digest, Vol 298, Issue 8-Jenette (Dave Morley)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:00:37 +0100<BR>From: Dave Morley <<A href="http://uk.mc865.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=davmor2@davmor2.co.uk" ymailto="mailto:davmor2@davmor2.co.uk">davmor2@davmor2.co.uk</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [Wolves] Wolves Digest, Vol 298, Issue 8-Jenette<BR>To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group <<A href="http://uk.mc865.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wolves@mailman.lug.org.uk" ymailto="mailto:wolves@mailman.lug.org.uk">wolves@mailman.lug.org.uk</A>><BR>Message-ID: <1246867237.4397.0.camel@smegol><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 00:30 +0100, Adam Sweet wrote:<BR>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<BR>> Hash: SHA1<BR>> <BR>> JENETTE PALMER wrote:<BR>> > It might be you that thinks I am bit scary not the other way round-you<BR>> > might be the ones to run off if I come to your meetings!<BR>> <BR>> You haven't seen how ugly we are...<BR>> <BR>> > Anyway more<BR>> > seriously is there anyone who could tell me how to make the update<BR>> > manager stop updating the same 91 updates all by itself!<BR>> <BR>> Not really without seeing what's happening. If you use apt-get on the<BR>> command line there are 2 steps to go through. The first gets the latest<BR>> list of software packages available and the next installs any updates<BR>> for what you already have installed.<BR>> <BR>> Linux separates users for security, you have normal users like you or
I<BR>> who have restricted access to the system for safety and you have the<BR>> root user, who is all powerful and can do anything to the system. As<BR>> normal users don't have full access to do anything they choose on a<BR>> system, you can temporarily run a command as root by starting it with<BR>> the sudo command, so the 2 commands I was talking about are:<BR>> <BR>> sudo apt-get update<BR>> sudo apt-get upgrade<BR>> <BR>> As I said, the first one refreshes the list of available software and<BR>> the second installs any newer versions of what you already have installed.<BR>> <BR>> Try those 2 commands in a terminal and if it doesn't work, copy whatever<BR>> it says and paste it into an email to the mailing list and we'll see if<BR>> we can work out why it's not working.<BR>> <BR>> > Also can anyone<BR>> > explain how clamv actually does anything!<BR>> <BR>> ClamAV isn't like a
Windows style AV engine in so much that it isn't<BR>> constantly running in the background and therefore it doesn't do the<BR>> on-access style scanning of files as you open them which is probably why<BR>> it isn't working the way you think it should. ClamAV is normally either<BR>> run manually to scan a particular file or directory, or it is glued into<BR>> a mail server application to scan emails for viruses.<BR>> <BR>> To scan a file manually, try the following:<BR>> <BR>> clamscan filename<BR>> <BR>> of course swap the word 'filename' with the name of the file to scan.<BR>> Alternatively, to scan a directory try the following:<BR>> <BR>> clamscan -r ~<BR>> <BR>> The ~ symbol means your user's home directory. Every user has their own<BR>> home directory and it is similar to My Documents under Windows. If your<BR>> username is jenette, your home directory would be /home/jenette but the<BR>> ~ is
like a shortcut that means the same thing. You could just as easily<BR>> typed:<BR>> <BR>> clamscan -r /home/jenette<BR>> <BR>> or for some other directory:<BR>> <BR>> clamscan -r directoryname<BR>> <BR>> The -r means to do it recursively, which means scan every file in every<BR>> directory which is underneath the directory you specified. In this case<BR>> you told it to scan everything underneath your /home/jenette.<BR>> <BR>> Does that make sense? If not, just ask.<BR>> <BR>> In any case, there isn't any real need to run an AV scanner under Linux<BR>> unless you are using it to protect Windows users. There aren't really<BR>> any real Linux viruses in the same way that there are for Windows.<BR>> That's not to say that Linux is bullet proof, but there just aren't the<BR>> same threats to Linux as there are for Windows and Windows viruses don't<BR>> work under Linux. If you wanted to scan files
under Linux before you<BR>> open them under Windows, just to be safe, then that makes sense, or as I<BR>> said before, if you were running a mail server or a file server for<BR>> Windows users then that would make sense too, but for your average Linux<BR>> desktop system, there's really no need. Admittedly that might not always<BR>> be the case but it is at the moment.<BR>> <BR>> You don't need to defragment your hard disk under Linux either.<BR>> Anti-virus and disk defragging are pretty common things that Windows<BR>> users have to think about that Linux users don't.<BR>> <BR>> Linux can seem pretty complicated and confusing at the beginning, but<BR>> only because you are used to something different. However, Linux is far<BR>> better at telling you what went wrong than Windows as pretty much<BR>> everything is logged under the /var/log/ directory.<BR>> <BR>> In any case, you're in quite a unique position
compared to those of us<BR>> who have been around a while, you get to start at the beginning and see<BR>> all the things that should be easy or obvious, which we are used to<BR>> ignoring or working around without thinking about it. It would be<BR>> interesting to hear what you find difficult.<BR><BR>Or if you would like to get off the command line you can use clamtk.<BR>-- <BR>Seek That Thy Might Know<BR><BR><A href="http://www.davmor2.co.uk/" target=_blank>http://www.davmor2.co.uk</A><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<BR>Name: not available<BR>Type: application/pgp-signature<BR>Size: 197 bytes<BR>Desc: This is a digitally signed message part<BR>Url : <A href="http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/wolves/attachments/20090706/771f7461/attachment-0001.pgp" target=_blank>http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/wolves/attachments/20090706/771f7461/attachment-0001.pgp</A>
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