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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"> <div>Good one Simon, I would say that unless you are super interested in a subject then 30-45 mins is the max useful time for a talk.<br>Splitting it up to supporting topics keeps the time down and helps you focus on each in turn rather than it been a storm of tech poo that washes over them.<br><br>A talk normally needs to be at a basic tech level otherwise you loose folk and loose traction for your talks.<br><br>After what is it, the most important thing is why do I want/need it, describing the usecase and benefits engages those listening keeping them with you.<br>Avoid your own nerdy interests and see it from their point of view and deliver to that.<br><br>Good luck .. John</div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 20:48:44 BST, Simon Burke via Wolves <wolves@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp7e1deb42yiv9888495859"><div><div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="ydp7e1deb42yiv9888495859gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp7e1deb42yiv9888495859gmail_attr">On Thu, 21 Sept 2023, 19:57 Carles Pina i Estany, <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:carles@pina.cat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">carles@pina.cat</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp7e1deb42yiv9888495859gmail_quote"><br clear="none">
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On 21 Sep 2023 at 09:45:23, Simon Burke via Wolves wrote:<br clear="none">
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I don't post much (I'm a bit more active in the Shropshire group...)<br clear="none">
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I'm just going to write some ideas, but I don't know what's relevant in<br clear="none">
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> My topic of choice is 'Linux for Windows Administrators'.<br clear="none">
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> I have the basic outline, but I thought I'd post and ask for suggestions of<br clear="none">
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> * Updates and patching.<br clear="none">
> * Powershell and bash. Plus some command equivalencies.<br clear="none">
> * Dare I touch text editors, as a lifelong vim user?<br clear="none">
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Because you mentioned academics, only perhaps about free software<br clear="none">
history and philosophy. And Linux history and philosophy as well.<br clear="none">
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And because of "for Windows Administrators":<br clear="none">
-Docker (or Podman, lxc...)<br clear="none">
-ansible (or alternatives)<br clear="none">
-Perhaps Terraform and other systems like that one?<br clear="none">
-Monitoring of systems (whatever might fit their use case: from big<br clear="none">
things like monit, cactus? or something simpler like simplemonitor)<br clear="none">
-Logging (where to find logs, how to get notifications, rotation of<br clear="none">
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-If it was of interest: Mail servers (my "choice" is Postfix+Dovecot)<br clear="none">
(add other tools used there like spamassasin, filtering, etc.); or Web<br clear="none">
servers (Apache, nginx?), etc.; other type of servers...<br clear="none">
-Steps of booting on linux<br clear="none">
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Cheers,<br clear="none"></blockquote></div></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thank you for your suggestions. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I do have a mail talk in mind, as people not understanding email is one of the many banes of my existence right now. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I would probably do follow-up talks about the usual services (Apache/nginx, myself/postgres, haproxy). But for now I'd be looking as a general intro for someone with zero Linux knowledge, only having experience of Windows. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>So permissions (briefly touching ACLs), disk layout, sssd, basic firewall (ufw/firewalld, nftables), service management (probably just systemd), and editing files. Along with man and info pages, and finding support etc. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>But I think this might be a lot to cover in about 20-30 mins.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I daren't touch monitoring where I am due to it being a contentious subject at the moment. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I imagine we could probably fill half hour on just a brief history and philosophy of Linux. But I'm not sure how many people would be interested in all honesty. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div id="ydp7e1deb42yiv9888495859yqtfd64240" class="ydp7e1deb42yiv9888495859yqt7068529092"><div>Simon</div><div><div class="ydp7e1deb42yiv9888495859gmail_quote"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp7e1deb42yiv9888495859gmail_quote">
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