<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br><br><br></div><div><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><b>From:</b> that guy <<a href="mailto:kaiise@gmail.com">kaiise@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:</b> 29 January 2012 17:34:24 GMT<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wylug-discuss@wylug.org"><a href="mailto:wylug-discuss@wylug.org">wylug-discuss@wylug.org</a></a><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>Re: [Wylug-discuss] advice on ebook reader or similar...</b><br><br></div>
</blockquote><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>The  blackberry playbook is rootable and RIM is cutting their prices</span><br><span>becauseof Market failure .</span><br><span></span><br><span>Also kobo e reader has a</span><br>
<span>Tablet counterpart. I'm a sci textbook PDF guy so e-ink based ereaders</span><br><span>have left me bereft.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On 29 Jan 2012, at 15:18, David Holden <<a href="mailto:dh@iucr.org">dh@iucr.org</a>> wrote:</span><br>
<span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>I've had the exact same need for several months - 10 inch minimum for me</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to read PDFs. I've thought about the cheapo option but I'm going to wait</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a little longer. I think the first half of this year there will be some</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>good price/performance android tablet offerings coming through.</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dave.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 29/01/12 15:00, Dave Fisher wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm picking up this thread again, because my needs have evolved and</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>are now very close to Jim Jackson's original concerns, i.e. I now</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>want/need to read larger page-sized ebooks that only come in PDF</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>format and don't really convert very well to epub or mobi.</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't think I've ever used a hand-held gadget more often than I use</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>my Kindle, but it doesn't really cut the mustard for technical books</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>where you need to read a paragraph, glance at a sidebar/footnote and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>see an illustration or code sample in the same view.</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The larger-sized Kindle DX is not for sale in the UK and I really</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>cannot justify the cost of an iPad or high-spec Android fondleslab ...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>so I've been considering the possibilities of rooting or completely</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>gutting a budget android slab (max GBP 180, preferably nearer GBP</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>100).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm not really bothered about ultra-responsive, capacitive, touch,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>since I'm not planning to use it as a general-purpose computing UI,</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and if I changed my mind I'd probably want to hook it up to a keyboard</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>anyway.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Nor do I envisage using many/any apps from the Android market.</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I've seen some documentation on how to root one or two of the cheapo</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>android slabs, but I'm wondering if anyone on this list has come</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>across instances of people running true Linux distros on them?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>All I've seen is comments to the effect that getting/configuring the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>drivers for esoteric telecoms chippery is probably hard/fiddly.</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Since tablets in the category I'm thinking of are wifi only, I'm</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>guessing at least some of them must use mainstream and well-supported</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">
<span>chips.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So, anyone seen a mainstream Linux distro installed on a budget fondleslab?</span><br>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dave</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
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