[Bassetlug mailing] Programming -- was: Re: Fwd: BassetLUG Contact Form Submittal

[Danny Roberts]

Hi Philip,

Martin may weigh in here as he has a shed load of Windows
development experience. But I cannot personally see any reason to purchase
MS Visual Studio as depending on what language you are using there are
equally as good IDE's available either as Open Source or Freeware.

Sounds like you're trying to do something fairly complicated right now. But
if I'm following you want to be able to upload documents via a web
interface, store them on the web servers, and be able to view/delete them
from the same web interface at a later point?

Regards
Danny

On 14 July 2011 18:45, philip jones <phil at thejones-family.co.uk> wrote:

> HI Danny and Richard
> Do you think there is any advantage in purchasing  Microsoft visual studio
> professional 2010. I have tried to copy a PHP programme out of book, but i
> think the book was too old and it wasn't compatible with modern browsers.
> What I trying to do is scan documents into a mysql database and then view
> them in a web browser or something. I have used the medium blob field and
> have saved a jpg into the database using phpmyadmin but need to learn how
> to
> write programs so i can view upload delete the documents
>
> kind regards
> philip
>
> by the way it was an academic course on antibiotic so wasn't poorly at all
> !
>
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> Hi Richard,
>
> There are indeed many suitable choices for beginners, personally I think a
> big factor over your choice of first language is always going to be the
> reason why you want to learn in the first place. For example choosing PHP
> as
> a first language if you eventually want to be able to program server
> daemons probably isn't a great 1st choice.
>
> Having also used C# 1st I think personally its a great general choice for a
> 1st programming language especially if theres no particular area (such as
> web/server daemons) etc that you are interested in.
>
> Also it's incorrect to say that C# is tied to one vendor and/or
> is proprietary etc as it is not. C# is actually a standards approved
> language (via the IEEE standards comitee I believe) just like C++ is. It's
> the .NET framework that is Microsoft's proprietary offering not C# itself,
> and we do have an alternative to .NET in the free software world called
> Mono
> (which I actually did a presentation on one evening:
> http://basset.lug.org.uk/documents/Mono_Presentation.odp).
>
> But hey I'm not saying C# is the right choice as it very well might not be.
> I'd be interested to here more of your thoughts sometime. If you could get
> down a to a LUG meeting one week that would be great.
>
> Regards
> Danny
>
> On 13 July 2011 22:18, Richard Smedley <smedley358 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > On 13/07/11 20:05, Danny Roberts wrote:
> >
> >> On 13 July 2011 19:43, philip
> jones<phil at thejones-family.co.**uk<phil at thejones-family.co.uk>>
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would like to learn a bit of programming but need to start at the
> >>> beginning.
> >>> martin has suggested I start with c# and shape develop
> >>>
> >>
> > > C# is still a good choice but there are other options if you don't
> > > like the sound of that.
> >
> > You can learn to program by starting with almost any language
> > but some make it easier than others [0]. Personally I recommend
> > JavaScript [1] for the quickest start (a couple of lines of code,
> > and the programs run in any browser), or Scheme [2] (or Common
> > Lisp [3]) for harder work but more rewards.
> >
> > However if you're after coding something useful for either
> > the Web or the GNU/Linux platform, then one of the great
> > intros to Python [4] or Ruby [5] will get you set up for both. :)
> >
> > [0] I don't wish to start a language war - C# isn't bad,
> >    although it is tied to one vendor, known for love of
> >    patents and proprietary software :-/
> >
> > [1] Eloquent JavaScript: A Modern Introduction to Programming
> >    Marijn Haverbeke
> >    No Starch Press
> >    978-1-59327-282-1
> >
> > [2] http://www.htdp.org/
> >    is best, but if you're feeling brave, consider SICP :)
> >
> > [3] http://landoflisp.com/
> >
> > [4] http://learnpythonthehardway.**org/<
> http://learnpythonthehardway.org/>
> >
> > [5]
> http://mislav.uniqpath.com/**poignant-guide/book/<
> http://mislav.uniqpath.com
> /poignant-guide/book/>
> >
> >  - Richard
> >
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