From lee at larcombe.uk-internet.org.uk Mon Jan 6 19:13:00 2003 From: lee at larcombe.uk-internet.org.uk (Lee Larcombe) Date: Mon Jan 6 19:13:00 2003 Subject: [Beds] happy new year to everyone Message-ID: <002001c2b58d$0618cce0$1a332850@lee> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C2B58D.051D07C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 I hope everyone had a good christmas, and you are all looking forward to = a similarly enjoyable new year.=20 I volunteered back in October to coordinate the arrangement of meetings = whilst Neil was busy. I am ashamed to say I didn't perform this role = very well, due to sudden personal commitments of my own. I do however = apologise, and hope to make up for that now. So, without further ado - lets have a meeting this month. I would like = to initially propose wednesday 22nd January for this meeting. If = everyone can make this then we can decide the venue later. I would like to see if we can expand and develop this LUG in the new = year. If this date is too difficult for many of you then it can be = changed - but only if feedback is reasonably prompt. So, please let me = know if you can make it - and if you can't then try and suggest an = alternative date. I will try my best to accomodate everyone as best as I = can. I was not intending to promote a theme or agenda for this meeting. I = personally would like to just meet some of you - put some faces to the = names etc. I think a social setting would be good, and we can use this = meeting to perhaps express opinions about the LUG and what directions we = can go etc. Anyway, get back to me with your views. Lee ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C2B58D.051D07C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I hope everyone had a good christmas, = and you are=20 all looking forward to a similarly enjoyable new year.

I volunteered back in October to = coordinate the=20 arrangement of meetings whilst Neil was busy. I am ashamed to say I = didn't=20 perform this role very well, due to sudden personal commitments of my = own. I do=20 however apologise, and hope to make up for that now.

So, without further ado - lets have a = meeting this=20 month. I would like to initially propose wednesday 22nd January for this = meeting. If everyone can make this then we can decide the venue=20 later.

I would like to see if we can expand = and develop=20 this LUG in the new year. If this date is too difficult for many of you = then it=20 can be changed - but only if feedback is reasonably prompt. So, please = let me=20 know if you can make it - and if you can't then try and suggest an = alternative=20 date. I will try my best to accomodate everyone as best as I = can.

I was not intending to promote a theme = or agenda=20 for this meeting. I personally would like to just meet some of you - put = some=20 faces to the names etc. I think a social setting would be good, and we = can use=20 this meeting to perhaps express opinions about the LUG and what = directions we=20 can go etc.

Anyway, get back to me with your=20 views.

Lee

------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C2B58D.051D07C0-- From sacarasc at hotmail.com Mon Jan 6 20:45:00 2003 From: sacarasc at hotmail.com (midi junkie) Date: Mon Jan 6 20:45:00 2003 Subject: [Beds] happy new year to everyone Message-ID: >From: "Lee Larcombe" >To: "Beds LUG Members" >Subject: [Beds] happy new year to everyone >Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:08:00 -0000 > >Hi Hi! (Hi! I'm Fred >I would like to see if we can expand and develop this LUG in the new year. I'd like to be there, and think I probably shall (depending on venue and monetary situation at the time). So this is a bit of expansion at least ;) >I was not intending to promote a theme or agenda for this meeting. I >personally would like to just meet some of you - put some faces to the >names etc. I think a social setting would be good, and we can use this >meeting to perhaps express opinions about the LUG and what directions we >can go etc. I think thats a good idea, especially being the new kid, not spoken to many of you though =/ Talk soon to you all I hope Fred (currently idling on IRC in #beds and #nlug as afx) _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From neil at darlow.co.uk Mon Jan 6 23:35:55 2003 From: neil at darlow.co.uk (Neil Darlow) Date: Mon Jan 6 23:35:55 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: happy new year to everyone In-Reply-To: <002001c2b58d$0618cce0$1a332850@lee> References: <002001c2b58d$0618cce0$1a332850@lee> Message-ID: <200301062334.h06NY42h079173@router.darlow.co.uk> Hi All, I echo Lee's sentiment in wishing everyone a Happy New Year for 2003. Lee has kindly agreed to manage the administration of the next few meetings while I get to grips with our newborn son (born 2nd November last). I will make an effort to attend these meetings purely as a member so that folks can put a face to my name. Lee will be organising things and I wouldn't want to cramp his style. I'm sure he'll run any policy decisions by me ;-) I generally try to send all new members a welcome message via the forum and apologise if I've missed welcoming anyone recently. I look forward to meeting all of you in the near future. Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster -- Open Standards/Free Software Consultants http://www.darlow.co.uk/ ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber, MSNM: see following GnuPG identity 1024D/531F9048 1999-09-11 Neil Darlow GnuPG fingerprint = 359D B8FF 6273 6C32 BEAA 43F9 E579 E24A 531F 9048 From jonathan.dye at automationpartnership.com Tue Jan 7 09:54:01 2003 From: jonathan.dye at automationpartnership.com (Jonathan Dye) Date: Tue Jan 7 09:54:01 2003 Subject: Meeting (was [Beds] happy new year to everyone) Message-ID: Lee Larcombe wrote: > Hi > > I hope everyone had a good christmas, and you are all looking forward > to a similarly enjoyable new year. > > I volunteered back in October to coordinate the arrangement of > meetings whilst Neil was busy. I am ashamed to say I didn't perform > this role very well, due to sudden personal commitments of my own. I > do however apologise, and hope to make up for that now. > > So, without further ado - lets have a meeting this month. I would > like to initially propose wednesday 22nd January for this meeting. If > everyone can make this then we can decide the venue later. I'll be able to make this date. JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service From gibbsie at gibbsie.org Tue Jan 7 13:32:00 2003 From: gibbsie at gibbsie.org (Gibbsie) Date: Tue Jan 7 13:32:00 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: happy new year to everyone In-Reply-To: <200301062334.h06NY42h079173@router.darlow.co.uk> Message-ID: <000601c2b651$912c7010$dc00000a@intranet.gibbsie.org> Congrats on your son Neil. Happy New Year to you all, I meant to email the list earlier but have = just got back from a month long holiday in the US :-) Lee, should be able to make the meeting, would be good to put faces to = names and to think of a direction for future meetings - have you a venue in = mind? Regards, Oliver -----Original Message----- From: beds-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk = [mailto:beds-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Neil Darlow Sent: 06 January 2003 23:34 To: Beds LUG Members Subject: [Beds] Re: happy new year to everyone Hi All, I echo Lee's sentiment in wishing everyone a Happy New Year for 2003. Lee has kindly agreed to manage the administration of the next few = meetings=20 while I get to grips with our newborn son (born 2nd November last). I will make an effort to attend these meetings purely as a member so = that=20 folks can put a face to my name. Lee will be organising things and I wouldn't=20 want to cramp his style. I'm sure he'll run any policy decisions by me = ;-) I generally try to send all new members a welcome message via the forum = and=20 apologise if I've missed welcoming anyone recently. I look forward to meeting=20 all of you in the near future. Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster --=20 Open Standards/Free Software Consultants http://www.darlow.co.uk/ ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber, MSNM: see following GnuPG identity 1024D/531F9048 1999-09-11 Neil Darlow GnuPG = fingerprint =3D 359D B8FF 6273 6C32 BEAA 43F9 E579 E24A 531F 9048 _______________________________________________ Beds mailing list Beds@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/beds From bedslug at davidpashley.com Tue Jan 7 18:24:01 2003 From: bedslug at davidpashley.com (David Pashley) Date: Tue Jan 7 18:24:01 2003 Subject: Meeting (was [Beds] happy new year to everyone) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200301071823.10511.bedslug@davidpashley.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 07 January 2003 09:56, Jonathan Dye wrote: > Lee Larcombe wrote: > > Hi > > > > I hope everyone had a good christmas, and you are all looking forward > > to a similarly enjoyable new year. > > > > I volunteered back in October to coordinate the arrangement of > > meetings whilst Neil was busy. I am ashamed to say I didn't perform > > this role very well, due to sudden personal commitments of my own. I > > do however apologise, and hope to make up for that now. > > > > So, without further ado - lets have a meeting this month. I would > > like to initially propose wednesday 22nd January for this meeting. If > > everyone can make this then we can decide the venue later. > > I'll be able to make this date. > > JD > Same here. What sort of format were people thinking of? Curry and pub? - -- David Pashley david@davidpashley.com Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+GxsOYsCKa6wDNXYRAn68AJ9oItzq0PkmrGJvy/MhPX9xA9CqmACfQ68Q Ej2QBll6rnePkm0U06uyZPo= =TejV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lee at larcombe.uk-internet.org.uk Wed Jan 8 13:23:00 2003 From: lee at larcombe.uk-internet.org.uk (Lee Larcombe) Date: Wed Jan 8 13:23:00 2003 Subject: [Beds] meeting Message-ID: <002201c2b70e$e28223c0$1f332850@lee> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2B70E.E13B9A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all Thanks for the replies so far - hopefully we will continue to get a few = more before 22nd. So far there are seven of us who can make it - so I think the meeting is = definitely going ahead on this date. This will be the biggest meeting to = date! Anyway, I assumed the best place for a venue would be bedford. A curry = was perhaps mentioned, but I am not sure if everyone would want to eat. = However, I think a pub should be mandatory. What about the pilgrim's = progress? Whetherspoons pub - cheap drink and people can eat if they = want to. If that sounds like a plan, then I think I will suggest a = meeting time of about 7:30 - I will probably eat there, and anyone who = wants to eat at home can turn up a bit later if they like. If any of you are from outside bedford and want directions just let me = know. The pub is near both the railway station and the bus station. Lee ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2B70E.E13B9A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all

Thanks for the replies so far - = hopefully we will=20 continue to get a few more before 22nd.

So far there are seven of us who can = make it - so I=20 think the meeting is definitely going ahead on this date. This will be = the=20 biggest meeting to date!

Anyway, I assumed the best place for a = venue would=20 be bedford. A curry was perhaps mentioned, but I am not sure if everyone = would=20 want to eat. However, I think a pub should be mandatory. What about the=20 pilgrim's progress? Whetherspoons pub - cheap drink and people can eat = if they=20 want to. If that sounds like a plan, then I think I will suggest a = meeting time=20 of about 7:30 - I will probably eat there, and anyone who wants to eat = at home=20 can turn up a bit later if they like.

If any of you are from outside bedford = and want=20 directions just let me know. The pub is near both the railway station = and the=20 bus station.

Lee

------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2B70E.E13B9A00-- From sacarasc at hotmail.com Wed Jan 8 15:05:00 2003 From: sacarasc at hotmail.com (midi junkie) Date: Wed Jan 8 15:05:00 2003 Subject: [Beds] meeting Message-ID: > >Hi all > >Thanks for the replies so far - hopefully we will continue to get a few >more before 22nd. >So far there are seven of us who can make it - so I think the meeting is >definitely going ahead on this date. This will be the biggest meeting to >date! YIPPEE!! :P > >Anyway, I assumed the best place for a venue would be bedford. A curry was >perhaps mentioned, but I am not sure if everyone would want to eat. >However, I think a pub should be mandatory. What about the pilgrim's >progress? I'm up for that, can't remember the last time I was in there (well, Bedford for that matter ;)) but I'll be there with bells on (just so you can find me) > >If any of you are from outside bedford and want directions just let me >know. The pub is near both the railway station and the bus station. Give them the 'long' way round from the Train Station, its better than them allies, IMHO, unless youre drunk ant its 2AM and youre not scared... > >Lee Latez Fred _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bedslug at davidpashley.com Wed Jan 8 15:35:00 2003 From: bedslug at davidpashley.com (David Pashley) Date: Wed Jan 8 15:35:00 2003 Subject: [Beds] meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200301081533.48225.bedslug@davidpashley.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 08 January 2003 15:01, midi junkie wrote: > >Hi all > > > >Thanks for the replies so far - hopefully we will continue to get a few > >more before 22nd. > >So far there are seven of us who can make it - so I think the meeting is > >definitely going ahead on this date. This will be the biggest meeting to > >date! > > YIPPEE!! :P > > >Anyway, I assumed the best place for a venue would be bedford. A curry was > >perhaps mentioned, but I am not sure if everyone would want to eat. > >However, I think a pub should be mandatory. What about the pilgrim's > >progress? > Or the Banker's Draft on the High Street. Used to be a bank, but is now a trendy wine bar ;). Annoyingly Weatherspoons do a curry night on Thursdays. Beer and Curry for fiver or something. > I'm up for that, can't remember the last time I was in there (well, Bedford > for that matter ;)) but I'll be there with bells on (just so you can find > me) > > >If any of you are from outside bedford and want directions just let me > >know. The pub is near both the railway station and the bus station. > > Give them the 'long' way round from the Train Station, its better than them > allies, IMHO, unless youre drunk ant its 2AM and youre not scared... > Hmmm Midland road late at night. > >Lee > > Latez > - -- David Pashley david@davidpashley.com Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+HETcYsCKa6wDNXYRAnO1AKCTXmZn1Xsn9hB64snPyFIESn8KxACghEA8 uexidDdUQV2TuN2ECtag9TA= =IBLf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From andy at ancl.org Wed Jan 8 19:48:01 2003 From: andy at ancl.org (Andy Clements) Date: Wed Jan 8 19:48:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] meeting References: <002201c2b70e$e28223c0$1f332850@lee> Message-ID: <006101c2b74e$3bf15900$b0330450@toby> Happy New Year to All on the list, have a nasty feeling it isn't going to be a 2003 :-( See you on the 22nd. Andy ( ancl ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Larcombe To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:10 PM Subject: [Beds] meeting Hi all Thanks for the replies so far - hopefully we will continue to get a few more before 22nd. So far there are seven of us who can make it - so I think the meeting is definitely going ahead on this date. This will be the biggest meeting to date! Anyway, I assumed the best place for a venue would be bedford. A curry was perhaps mentioned, but I am not sure if everyone would want to eat. However, I think a pub should be mandatory. What about the pilgrim's progress? Whetherspoons pub - cheap drink and people can eat if they want to. If that sounds like a plan, then I think I will suggest a meeting time of about 7:30 - I will probably eat there, and anyone who wants to eat at home can turn up a bit later if they like. If any of you are from outside bedford and want directions just let me know. The pub is near both the railway station and the bus station. Lee From neil at darlow.co.uk Thu Jan 9 18:15:01 2003 From: neil at darlow.co.uk (Neil Darlow) Date: Thu Jan 9 18:15:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Inter-LUG Paintball Game Message-ID: <200301091814.h09IEkKH033286@router.darlow.co.uk> Hi All, There's been some interest shown in putting-on an Inter-LUG PaintBall Game - the venue for which has yet to be determined. Are any of our members interested in such an event? If so, respond to the list and I'll feed back your interest to the organising LUG. Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster -- ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ From andy at ancl.org Fri Jan 10 20:19:01 2003 From: andy at ancl.org (Andy Clements) Date: Fri Jan 10 20:19:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Inter-LUG Paintball Game References: <200301091814.h09IEkKH033286@router.darlow.co.uk> Message-ID: <011701c2b8e4$d68cc840$e2320450@toby> Put me down as cannon-fodder please. ancl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Darlow" To: "Beds LUG Members" Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: [Beds] Inter-LUG Paintball Game > Hi All, > > There's been some interest shown in putting-on an Inter-LUG PaintBall Game - > the venue for which has yet to be determined. > > Are any of our members interested in such an event? If so, respond to the list > and I'll feed back your interest to the organising LUG. > > Regards, > Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster > -- > ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: > Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Beds mailing list > Beds@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/beds From sacarasc at hotmail.com Fri Jan 10 21:15:01 2003 From: sacarasc at hotmail.com (midi junkie) Date: Fri Jan 10 21:15:01 2003 Subject: Fwd: [Beds] Inter-LUG Paintball Game Message-ID: As I have already said to young Neil: YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!! (about the paintballing ;) I know what you're all like) Quite a lot would I like to splatter my interlectual superiors with paint fired at ~100MPH ;P Latez Fred _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From avarielf at front.ru Sun Jan 12 11:55:00 2003 From: avarielf at front.ru (�� ) Date: Sun Jan 12 11:55:00 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: Beds digest, Vol 1 #29 - 1 msg-LUG PAINTBALLING Message-ID: <200301121153.h0CBrm8M011866@www6.mailru.com> beds-request@mailman.lug.org.uk: > Send Beds mailing list submissions to > beds@mailman.lug.org.uk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/beds > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > beds-request@mailman.lug.org.uk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > beds-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Beds digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Inter-LUG Paintball Game (Neil Darlow) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: Neil Darlow > To: Beds LUG Members > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:14:46 +0000 > Subject: [Beds] Inter-LUG Paintball Game > > Hi All, > > There's been some interest shown in putting-on an Inter-LUG PaintBall Game > - > the venue for which has yet to be determined. > > Are any of our members interested in such an event? If so, respond to the > list > and I'll feed back your interest to the organising LUG. > > Regards, > Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster > -- > ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: > Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: > http://www.darlow.co.uk/ > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Beds mailing list > Beds@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/beds > > > End of Beds Digest > > Start RE: Well, a good idea indeed, finally some fun and exercise never harms. End RE.. From neil at darlow.co.uk Sat Jan 18 12:53:01 2003 From: neil at darlow.co.uk (Neil Darlow) Date: Sat Jan 18 12:53:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Proposal for new LUG web site structure Message-ID: <200301181252.h0ICqN0d013295@router.darlow.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Following the recent arrival of new LUG members with ideas for development of the LUG, and consideration of requests from existing members for new features to be added, I am proposing changes to the web site structure. The proposal is that the existing static HTML page and YaBB Gold forums will be replaced by the Geeklog Content Management System (CMS) and some of it's more useful plugins e.g. File Manager, Forums and Image Gallery. The features offered by such a transition can be broken down into two categories, Member and Administration, the capabilities of which I will now outline. Member Features - --------------- Personal Details Profile Site-wide and Personal Calendars Shared access credentials between CMS and Forums Ability to contribute stories and comments Ability to upload files and documents to the File Manager Ability to upload images to the Image Gallery Notification of Story updates by E-mail Administration Features - ----------------------- Sophisticated permissions control for administrators Flexibility in granting members administrative rights without access to server Seamless integration between CMS, Forums and Image Gallery Submission queues for Member-posted content Ability to handle abusive postings and irrelevant material i.e. trolling Built-in database backup and restoration management These are but a few of the features available. The main reason for choosing this new structure is to permit the development of the LUG web site resources for access by non-members without compromising the interactivity we enjoy with the current design. Allowing the CMS to generate the pages frees us to concentrate on the quality of material presented on the site. For myself, it allows the LUG to have a resource that members can contribute to without giving out administrative privileges to the LUG Server wholesale. As a contributor to the Geeklog project, I am aware of it's strengths and have the necessary knowledge of it's workings to fix any bugs that show themselves. Lee has already volunteered to work on the web site, as has Stanimir, and I believe that Geeklog will allow us to develop the site in a professional and well managed manner. I hope that we can discuss this new development at Wednesday's meeting and amend the proposal, as necessary, subject to your feedback both at the meeting and via the list (for those who are unable to attend). Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster - -- ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+KU3z5XniSlMfkEgRAvn9AJ0Sx6cXu3WkUD2/MTBRbBVElt9lFwCfeNPj SPDNi8IbFwLMuRl7gDvebVk= =64aK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tomchance at gmx.net Sat Jan 18 16:16:01 2003 From: tomchance at gmx.net (Tom Chance) Date: Sat Jan 18 16:16:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Proposal for new LUG web site structure References: <200301181252.h0ICqN0d013295@router.darlow.co.uk> Message-ID: <9780.1042906535@www47.gmx.net> Neil, > The proposal is that the existing static HTML page and YaBB Gold forums > will > be replaced by the Geeklog Content Management System (CMS) and some of > it's > more useful plugins e.g. File Manager, Forums and Image Gallery. That sounds like a good idea to me. Perhaps it would be good to establish what sort of images/files people should be uploading, and what sort of stories people should submit, so it doesn't become a mess, and itsn't abused? Tom -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr f�r 1 ct/ Min. surfen! From jonathan.dye at automationpartnership.com Tue Jan 21 08:35:00 2003 From: jonathan.dye at automationpartnership.com (Jonathan Dye) Date: Tue Jan 21 08:35:00 2003 Subject: [Beds] Directions to the meeting Message-ID: Hi, I'd like to come along to tomorrows meeting but I've never been into Bedford at all. I've got a map from streetmap but I was wondering if there was anything that I should look out for (e.g. one way systems) and whether there is parking at the pub. I'll be coming in on the A603. Cheers, JD ________________________________Important Notice________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the Pasporte Virus Control Centre. ________________________________________________________________________ From neil at darlow.co.uk Tue Jan 21 11:24:01 2003 From: neil at darlow.co.uk (Neil Darlow) Date: Tue Jan 21 11:24:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: Directions to the meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200301211123.h0LBN40d079484@router.darlow.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 08:38, Jonathan Dye wrote: > I'd like to come along to tomorrows meeting but I've never been into > Bedford at all. I've got a map from streetmap but I was wondering if there > was anything that I should look out for (e.g. one way systems) and whether > there is parking at the pub. I'll be coming in on the A603. I'll be travelling that road myself, coming from Sandy. There is a one-way system in the vicinity of the Pilgrim's Progress and the best route in is probably as follows: 1) Take the A603 through Moggerhanger and Willington towards Bedford. 2) Head straight over the roundabout with Tesco and the Oasis Beach Pool on the right. 3) At the next roundabout turn left into Rope Walk passing PC World on your left. 4) At the next roundabout bear right and take the centre lane so you may take the right fork. 5) At the traffic lights move into the left-hand lane while passing Bedford College. 6) Turn left at the traffic lights and continue over the Town Bridge bearing left to pass the Magistrates Courts and Town Hall. 7) Turn left at the Civic Theatre adjacent to the Town Hall. 8) If you take the right lane you are taken into the Harpur Centre underground car park. Watch out for oncoming traffic here. Alternatively, there is pay-and-display parking to the left just past the next roundabout. I'm not sure if the charges apply in the evening. 9) The Pilgrim's Progress is located just round the corner from the Harpur Centre car park in River Street. It's quite a large building on the left as you head towards Midland Road. Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster - -- ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+LS2T5XniSlMfkEgRAk7SAJwOyVvZU/tGyymn3e0LnTrtYuN9DQCgiMQo RwNt56FMP5wdn9NoVl2xdcE= =pvwH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From neil at darlow.co.uk Thu Jan 23 12:48:01 2003 From: neil at darlow.co.uk (Neil Darlow) Date: Thu Jan 23 12:48:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Thank You Message-ID: <200301231247.h0NCl70d004852@router.darlow.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, On behalf of Lee and myself, I would like to thank everyone who attended the LUG meeting last night. This was, by far, the best attended meeting so far and I hope it is a sign of things to come. As an idea for the next meeting, I suggested we have a key signing party to establish a web-of-trust within the LUG. So to set the scene: Your mission Mr. Phelps... should you choose to accept it... is to bring along some evidence of identity e.g. your passport, your GnuPG key fingerprint and key size and some means of accessing your GnuPG public key (either by keyserver or web/ftp URL). Don't worry if this all sounds Chinese to you. We have plenty of members who have done this and are willing to help those who're attempting it for the first time. Just ask for help and you'll receive it ;-) Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster - -- ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+L+RI5XniSlMfkEgRAkQcAJ47QDxJrsEmKqgwRedINH/uHLEJ5gCdHmjm dD38nx4sMzem+hxdqDoYAdA= =Ecjs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bedslug at davidpashley.com Thu Jan 23 13:02:01 2003 From: bedslug at davidpashley.com (David Pashley) Date: Thu Jan 23 13:02:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Thank You In-Reply-To: <200301231247.h0NCl70d004852@router.darlow.co.uk> References: <200301231247.h0NCl70d004852@router.darlow.co.uk> Message-ID: <200301231301.11197.bedslug@davidpashley.com> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 January 2003 12:46, Neil Darlow wrote: > Hi All, > > On behalf of Lee and myself, I would like to thank everyone who attended > the LUG meeting last night. This was, by far, the best attended meeting so > far and I hope it is a sign of things to come. > > As an idea for the next meeting, I suggested we have a key signing party = to > establish a web-of-trust within the LUG. So to set the scene: > > Your mission Mr. Phelps... should you choose to accept it... is to bring > along some evidence of identity e.g. your passport, your GnuPG key > fingerprint and key size and some means of accessing your GnuPG public key > (either by keyserver or web/ftp URL). > > Don't worry if this all sounds Chinese to you. We have plenty of members > who have done this and are willing to help those who're attempting it for > the first time. Just ask for help and you'll receive it ;-) > > Regards, > Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster I spoke to Neil last night about FOSDEM next month in Brussels. You can fin= d=20 out more information about FOSDEM at http://www.fosdem.org. It should be=20 possible to go without missing any/much work. It is Sat 8th - Sun 9th=20 =46ebuary. It should be possible to fly with BA from Heathrow on Friday=20 afternoon/evening, stay Friday night and Saturday night and fly back on=20 Sunday evening. I think the flights are about 60GBP and I have budgetted fo= r=20 about 150GBP for the weekend including flights accomodation and food/drinks= =2E=20 I hear Beer is not cheap in Belguim, so you may need more if you want a dri= nk=20 or 10. If anyone is interested, can they post something to the list. I will= =20 be going but I wouldn't mind some company. =2D --=20 David Pashley david@davidpashley.com Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+L+eXYsCKa6wDNXYRAlGpAJ92a2We/p3w7faaT/X65DrJzlOVmQCfcbgi 8veUggas6Lo7c0E1M/Noxhc=3D =3DvBsN =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sacarasc at hush.com Thu Jan 23 14:52:02 2003 From: sacarasc at hush.com (sacarasc@hush.com) Date: Thu Jan 23 14:52:02 2003 Subject: [Beds] Thank you Message-ID: <200301231345.h0NDjWBX026819@mailserver2.hushmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Help :P Well, I dont really have any keys, other than the one on this address (and if you get an account here too, its SSL connection to the servers, which are in Ireland and Canada, so not as much snooping on it, its easy to do [yes, i am just lazy ;P] Last night was fun though, even if 99% of the conversation was so far over my head I might have been in .au Hope to see you all again Fred (Teh weirdo) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.2 (Java) Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wlkEARECABkFAj4v8i0SHHNhY2FyYXNjQGh1c2guY29tAAoJEFodY+UVSQ35j3wAoKDb 2bpAXVgoNssyN5VccWgL8FLPAJ9qMs/2FpeKQqfGNlBVnhmeZ8CuZA== =wxtq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427 From bedslug at davidpashley.com Thu Jan 23 15:01:35 2003 From: bedslug at davidpashley.com (David Pashley) Date: Thu Jan 23 15:01:35 2003 Subject: [Beds] Thank you In-Reply-To: <200301231345.h0NDjWBX026819@mailserver2.hushmail.com> References: <200301231345.h0NDjWBX026819@mailserver2.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <200301231500.46781.bedslug@davidpashley.com> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 January 2003 13:45, sacarasc@hush.com wrote: > Help :P > > Well, I dont really have any keys, other than the one on this address (and > if you get an account here too, its SSL connection to the servers, which > are in Ireland and Canada, so not as much snooping on it, its easy to do > [yes, i am just lazy ;P] > > Last night was fun though, even if 99% of the conversation was so far over > my head I might have been in .au > > Hope to see you all again > > Fred (Teh weirdo) > > > Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get > FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=3D2 > > Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: > https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=3Daffiliate&l=3D427 > Except your signature is bad. =2D --=20 David Pashley david@davidpashley.com Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+MAOeYsCKa6wDNXYRAmNXAKCl2vqUHSydVQJQKt6O9r+DhhrbxQCdEWI2 5HySxOc3OWxNmwlf5vcobLE=3D =3DdPBT =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jonathan.dye at automationpartnership.com Thu Jan 23 15:36:01 2003 From: jonathan.dye at automationpartnership.com (Jonathan Dye) Date: Thu Jan 23 15:36:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Thank you Message-ID: David Pashley wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 23 January 2003 13:45, sacarasc@hush.com wrote: >> Help :P >> >> Well, I dont really have any keys, other than the one on this >> address (and if you get an account here too, its SSL connection to >> the servers, which are in Ireland and Canada, so not as much >> snooping on it, its easy to do [yes, i am just lazy ;P] >> >> Last night was fun though, even if 99% of the conversation was so >> far over my head I might have been in .au >> >> Hope to see you all again >> >> Fred (Teh weirdo) >> >> >> Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get >> FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 >> >> Big $$$ to be made with the HushMail Affiliate Program: >> https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427 >> > > Except your signature is bad. Looks OK to me (gpg v1.0.6) JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service From andy at ancl.org Thu Jan 23 17:37:01 2003 From: andy at ancl.org (Andy Clements) Date: Thu Jan 23 17:37:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Thank You References: <200301231247.h0NCl70d004852@router.darlow.co.uk> Message-ID: <00e301c2c305$68e228a0$2486fea9@ancl.org> Sorry I couldn't stay too long last night, trust it went well after I disappeared, nice to meet others interested in Linux etc, and I hope I didn't pass on my cold to anyone...... Andys list of things to do.... 1.) Stick Debian on the Ultra5 2.) Get pgp / gnu-pg keys sorted 3.) Get my head around MX and mail servers again 4.) Put my hand in my pocket and buy everyone a round next time. 5.) Get a real big bank loan and go and buy a Mitsi Evo. Ta Andy ( ancl ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Darlow" To: "Beds LUG Members" Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: [Beds] Thank You > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi All, > > On behalf of Lee and myself, I would like to thank everyone who attended the > LUG meeting last night. This was, by far, the best attended meeting so far > and I hope it is a sign of things to come. > > As an idea for the next meeting, I suggested we have a key signing party to > establish a web-of-trust within the LUG. So to set the scene: > > Your mission Mr. Phelps... should you choose to accept it... is to bring along > some evidence of identity e.g. your passport, your GnuPG key fingerprint and > key size and some means of accessing your GnuPG public key (either by > keyserver or web/ftp URL). > > Don't worry if this all sounds Chinese to you. We have plenty of members who > have done this and are willing to help those who're attempting it for the > first time. Just ask for help and you'll receive it ;-) > > Regards, > Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster > - -- > ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: > Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+L+RI5XniSlMfkEgRAkQcAJ47QDxJrsEmKqgwRedINH/uHLEJ5gCdHmjm > dD38nx4sMzem+hxdqDoYAdA= > =Ecjs > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Beds mailing list > Beds@mailman.lug.org.uk > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/beds > From neil at darlow.co.uk Thu Jan 23 18:16:34 2003 From: neil at darlow.co.uk (Neil Darlow) Date: Thu Jan 23 18:16:34 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: Thank you In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200301231815.h0NIFl0d016046@router.darlow.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jon, On Thursday 23 Jan 2003 15:25, Jonathan Dye wrote: > Looks OK to me (gpg v1.0.6) I'm using gnupg-1.2.1 and it showed as bad for me too. Did the hash change between gnupg-1.0.x and gnupg-1.2.x? Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster - -- ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+MDFN5XniSlMfkEgRAg2KAJ9Wve8IJ7kCjIuUYe+4WMOtY33NNACffvf6 1RZwWMKKNOl6O3rqk64VM1M= =4yDv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alan at tomun.org Thu Jan 23 18:29:01 2003 From: alan at tomun.org (Alan James) Date: Thu Jan 23 18:29:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: Thank you In-Reply-To: <200301231815.h0NIFl0d016046@router.darlow.co.uk> References: <200301231815.h0NIFl0d016046@router.darlow.co.uk> Message-ID: <20030123182834.GA21282@tomun.org> On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 06:15:31PM +0000, Neil Darlow wrote: > > I'm using gnupg-1.2.1 and it showed as bad for me too. Did the hash change > between gnupg-1.0.x and gnupg-1.2.x? I have the same version. The error is: gpg: Signature made Thu 23 Jan 2003 13:46:21 GMT using DSA key ID 15490DF9 gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message gpg: BAD signature from "[?]" Perhaps that can be passed upstream somewhere. Alan. -- Don't be picky about the quality of stuff you sell. Some people will honestly buy anything. After all, you did! From gibbsie at gibbsie.org Thu Jan 23 19:48:01 2003 From: gibbsie at gibbsie.org (Gibbsie) Date: Thu Jan 23 19:48:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Thank You In-Reply-To: <00e301c2c305$68e228a0$2486fea9@ancl.org> Message-ID: <000601c2c318$d886a790$dc00000a@intranet.gibbsie.org> Sorry I didn't make the meeting yesterday! I was keen to attend but = work shipped me off to not-so-sunny Frankfurt and so was more than staggering distance from Bedford :-\ Good to see Andy is trying something fun - Linux on a Sun4u architecture = - I have an Ultra30 and have installed Gentoo on it in the past - want to do = it again sometime since its good revision. What was discussed or was it merely a "faces to names" exercise? Hopefully see you all at the next meeting! Oliver -----Original Message----- From: beds-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk = [mailto:beds-admin@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Clements Sent: 23 January 2003 17:33 To: Beds LUG Members Subject: Re: [Beds] Thank You Sorry I couldn't stay too long last night, trust it went well after I disappeared, nice to meet others interested in Linux etc, and I hope I didn't pass on my cold to anyone...... Andys list of things to do.... 1.) Stick Debian on the Ultra5 2.) Get pgp / gnu-pg keys sorted 3.) Get my head around MX and mail servers again 4.) Put my hand in my pocket and buy everyone a round next time. 5.) Get a real big bank loan and go and buy a Mitsi Evo. Ta Andy ( ancl ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Darlow" To: "Beds LUG Members" Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: [Beds] Thank You > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi All, > > On behalf of Lee and myself, I would like to thank everyone who=20 > attended the > LUG meeting last night. This was, by far, the best attended meeting so = > far and I hope it is a sign of things to come. > > As an idea for the next meeting, I suggested we have a key signing=20 > party to > establish a web-of-trust within the LUG. So to set the scene: > > Your mission Mr. Phelps... should you choose to accept it... is to=20 > bring along > some evidence of identity e.g. your passport, your GnuPG key=20 > fingerprint and > key size and some means of accessing your GnuPG public key (either by=20 > keyserver or web/ftp URL). > > Don't worry if this all sounds Chinese to you. We have plenty of=20 > members who > have done this and are willing to help those who're attempting it for=20 > the first time. Just ask for help and you'll receive it ;-) > > Regards, > Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster > - -- > ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: Free=20 > Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+L+RI5XniSlMfkEgRAkQcAJ47QDxJrsEmKqgwRedINH/uHLEJ5gCdHmjm > dD38nx4sMzem+hxdqDoYAdA=3D > =3DEcjs > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Beds mailing list > Beds@mailman.lug.org.uk=20 > http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/beds > _______________________________________________ Beds mailing list Beds@mailman.lug.org.uk http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/beds From tomchance at gmx.net Thu Jan 23 23:04:01 2003 From: tomchance at gmx.net (Tom Chance) Date: Thu Jan 23 23:04:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Thank You In-Reply-To: <200301231247.h0NCl70d004852@router.darlow.co.uk> References: <200301231247.h0NCl70d004852@router.darlow.co.uk> Message-ID: <3E307455.60603@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hullo all, Sorry I wasn't there - I'm in Reading, which is a slight problem :) Anyway, it's good that a proper meeting has finally occured! Hopefully they'll be one during my holidays so I can come along! Now as for these keys, I have to admit GnuPG still confuses me slightly. I'm using Mozilla+Enigmail for e-mail (though once KDE3.1 gets released - Monday?! - I'll switch to Kmail which already works with GnuPG for me). Signed emails show up with a broken pen, which, if I click on it, tries to find the key on a keyserver, which defaults to www.keyserver.net. I don't find anyone's keys on that. Can someone give me a hand here? I'l sign this email so people can get my key - I've got a record on keyserver.net if anyone needs it :-) Tom Neil Darlow wrote: | Hi All, | | On behalf of Lee and myself, I would like to thank everyone who attended the | LUG meeting last night. This was, by far, the best attended meeting so far | and I hope it is a sign of things to come. | | As an idea for the next meeting, I suggested we have a key signing party to | establish a web-of-trust within the LUG. So to set the scene: | | Your mission Mr. Phelps... should you choose to accept it... is to bring along | some evidence of identity e.g. your passport, your GnuPG key fingerprint and | key size and some means of accessing your GnuPG public key (either by | keyserver or web/ftp URL). | | Don't worry if this all sounds Chinese to you. We have plenty of members who | have done this and are willing to help those who're attempting it for the | first time. Just ask for help and you'll receive it ;-) | | Regards, | Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+MHRUfdqvyM16jFcRAhcTAJ92Wb5Uqux+FhZKYbTBqzbHUEpUOACeONtR 5r7xpalLTXSl4ymIz1s+tdE= =/Bej -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bedslug at davidpashley.com Fri Jan 24 09:24:01 2003 From: bedslug at davidpashley.com (David Pashley) Date: Fri Jan 24 09:24:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Thank You In-Reply-To: <3E307455.60603@gmx.net> References: <200301231247.h0NCl70d004852@router.darlow.co.uk> <3E307455.60603@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200301240921.56413.bedslug@davidpashley.com> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 January 2003 23:01, Tom Chance wrote: > Hullo all, > > Sorry I wasn't there - I'm in Reading, which is a slight problem :) > Anyway, it's good that a proper meeting has finally occured! Hopefully > they'll be one during my holidays so I can come along! > > Now as for these keys, I have to admit GnuPG still confuses me slightly. > I'm using Mozilla+Enigmail for e-mail (though once KDE3.1 gets released > Monday?! - I'll switch to Kmail which already works with GnuPG for > me). Signed emails show up with a broken pen, which, if I click on it, > tries to find the key on a keyserver, which defaults to > www.keyserver.net. I don't find anyone's keys on that. Can someone give > me a hand here? > > I'l sign this email so people can get my key - I've got a record on > keyserver.net if anyone needs it :-) > I use wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net. Seems to be good here. =2D --=20 David Pashley david@davidpashley.com Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+MQW0YsCKa6wDNXYRAuJ6AJ0TRLn+GMQFgigeIjVFCGESV7X8eACfQfCa p5khUMD7WulwcG4vqstv4KA=3D =3D1z7s =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jonathan.dye at automationpartnership.com Fri Jan 24 09:26:02 2003 From: jonathan.dye at automationpartnership.com (Jonathan Dye) Date: Fri Jan 24 09:26:02 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: Thank you Message-ID: Neil Darlow wrote: > Hi Jon, > > On Thursday 23 Jan 2003 15:25, Jonathan Dye wrote: >> Looks OK to me (gpg v1.0.6) > > I'm using gnupg-1.2.1 and it showed as bad for me too. Did the hash > change between gnupg-1.0.x and gnupg-1.2.x? Hmm, looking at the docs for v1.0.6 it talks about a few incompatabilities with older versions (that are fixed with command line switches), I wonder if similiar things have happened between 1.0.6 and 1.2.x. I'll have a look at the docs for 1.2.x when I get home. Although after trying it again with --verbose I get: > [jon@firewall jon]$ gpg --verbose --verify email > gpg: Warning: using insecure memory! > gpg: armor header: Version: Hush 2.2 (Java) > gpg: armor header: Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify > gpg: original file name='' > gpg: Signature made Thu 23 Jan 2003 01:46:21 PM GMT using DSA key ID 15490DF9 > gpg: requesting key 15490DF9 from wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net ... > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. > gpg: Total number processed: 0 > gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found So maybe it's not checking the signiture at all because I haven't got the correct key. Should pay more attention next time. I can't get your key from anywhere Fred have you got a link to it? JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service From neil at darlow.co.uk Fri Jan 24 12:59:01 2003 From: neil at darlow.co.uk (Neil Darlow) Date: Fri Jan 24 12:59:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Choice of keyserver Message-ID: <200301241258.h0OCwtZM033193@router.darlow.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I use wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net as my keyserver. Note that there were problems updating keys on www.keyserver.net with gnupg. This was determined as being a gnupg problem but I don't know whether the latest version fixes it. Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. - -- ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+MTiN5XniSlMfkEgRAnmFAJ9/Npvh8hauFSa/N8lzCZeaOOoRlQCeMrOo +IK+nSLBrEL4U1A5ubcdgr8= =dMsQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bedslug at davidpashley.com Fri Jan 24 18:48:00 2003 From: bedslug at davidpashley.com (David Pashley) Date: Fri Jan 24 18:48:00 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: Thank you In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200301241847.04938.bedslug@davidpashley.com> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 24 January 2003 09:30, Jonathan Dye wrote: > Neil Darlow wrote: > > Hi Jon, > > > > On Thursday 23 Jan 2003 15:25, Jonathan Dye wrote: > >> Looks OK to me (gpg v1.0.6) > > > > I'm using gnupg-1.2.1 and it showed as bad for me too. Did the hash > > change between gnupg-1.0.x and gnupg-1.2.x? > > Hmm, looking at the docs for v1.0.6 it talks about a few incompatabilities > with older versions (that are fixed with command line switches), I wonder > if similiar things have happened between 1.0.6 and 1.2.x. I'll have a lo= ok > at the docs for 1.2.x when I get home. > > Although after trying it again with --verbose I get: > > [jon@firewall jon]$ gpg --verbose --verify email > > gpg: Warning: using insecure memory! > > gpg: armor header: Version: Hush 2.2 (Java) > > gpg: armor header: Note: This signature can be verified at > > https://www.hushtools.com/verify > > > gpg: original file name=3D'' > > gpg: Signature made Thu 23 Jan 2003 01:46:21 PM GMT using DSA key ID > > 15490DF9 > > > gpg: requesting key 15490DF9 from wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net ... > > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. > > gpg: Total number processed: 0 > > gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found > > So maybe it's not checking the signiture at all because I haven't got the > correct key. Should pay more attention next time. > > I can't get your key from anywhere Fred have you got a link to it? > > JD > Well normally if I don't have the key, I get a message saying something lik= e=20 unable to verify. However the mail from Fred said Bad signature. Oh and I'm= =20 unable to find a copy of the key. =2D --=20 David Pashley david@davidpashley.com Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+MYooYsCKa6wDNXYRAkH2AJ0THKuGnrEn+urwk1tLkP1eg+UWAACffJBb qsXZExHm+e66ATVr/pJklLU=3D =3Dc8MK =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alan at tomun.org Fri Jan 24 19:12:02 2003 From: alan at tomun.org (Alan James) Date: Fri Jan 24 19:12:02 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: Thank you In-Reply-To: <200301241847.04938.bedslug@davidpashley.com> References: <200301241847.04938.bedslug@davidpashley.com> Message-ID: <20030124191142.GA26008@tomun.org> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 06:47:02PM +0000, David Pashley wrote: > Well normally if I don't have the key, I get a message saying something like > unable to verify. However the mail from Fred said Bad signature. Oh and I'm > unable to find a copy of the key. > Shove this in your .gnupg/options file: keyserver hkp://pgp.uk.demon.net keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve That'll grab unknown keys from the specified server when you need them. Unfortunately it wont get hushmail keys, you have to jump through some hoops to get those: https://www.hushmail.com/help.php?subloc=pgp Alan. -- "Of course it didn't help matters much that he kept pestering several female guests to show the continuously unfolding manifestation their sweater puppies." From neil at darlow.co.uk Fri Jan 24 19:58:01 2003 From: neil at darlow.co.uk (Neil Darlow) Date: Fri Jan 24 19:58:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: Thank you In-Reply-To: <20030124191142.GA26008@tomun.org> References: <200301241847.04938.bedslug@davidpashley.com> <20030124191142.GA26008@tomun.org> Message-ID: <200301241957.h0OJvcPR036780@router.darlow.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alan, On Friday 24 Jan 2003 19:11, Alan James wrote: > Shove this in your .gnupg/options file: > > keyserver hkp://pgp.uk.demon.net > keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve That's deprecated. It's now .gnupg/gpg.conf :-) > That'll grab unknown keys from the specified server when you need them. I prefer to update my keyring manually. The auto-key-retrieve feature grabs everything in sight and the keyring grows rapidly. Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster - -- ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+MZqq5XniSlMfkEgRAtOqAJ0QaxlphMhbvyTTyefSQF4fQZfZSwCfQis9 7Lrdf6YH7t3WoxqIzQr9t0c= =50XM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bedslug at davidpashley.com Fri Jan 24 23:08:00 2003 From: bedslug at davidpashley.com (David Pashley) Date: Fri Jan 24 23:08:00 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: Thank you In-Reply-To: <200301241957.h0OJvcPR036780@router.darlow.co.uk> References: <20030124191142.GA26008@tomun.org> <200301241957.h0OJvcPR036780@router.darlow.co.uk> Message-ID: <200301242307.52546.bedslug@davidpashley.com> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 24 January 2003 19:57, Neil Darlow wrote: > Hi Alan, > > On Friday 24 Jan 2003 19:11, Alan James wrote: > > Shove this in your .gnupg/options file: > > > > keyserver hkp://pgp.uk.demon.net > > keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve > > That's deprecated. It's now .gnupg/gpg.conf :-) > > > That'll grab unknown keys from the specified server when you need them. > > I prefer to update my keyring manually. The auto-key-retrieve feature gra= bs > everything in sight and the keyring grows rapidly. > Not to mention that gpg keeps running --check-trustdb david david% ls -hl /home/david/.gnupg/pubring.gpg =2D -rw------- 1 david david 7.2M 2003-01-20 09:53=20 /home/david/.gnupg/pubring.gpg david david% time gpg --check-trustdb gpg: checking at depth 0 signed=3D16 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=3D0/0/0/0/0/2 gpg: checking at depth 1 signed=3D221 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=3D0/0/0/8/8/0 gpg: checking at depth 2 signed=3D536 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=3D0/178/0/21/7/0 gpg: checking at depth 3 signed=3D85 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=3D0/113/0/11/1/0 gpg: checking at depth 4 signed=3D0 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=3D0/5/0/1/0/0 gpg: next trustdb check due at 2003-02-03 real 0m32.641s user 0m8.770s sys 0m0.980s =2D --=20 David Pashley david@davidpashley.com Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+McdIYsCKa6wDNXYRAvlOAJ4/ZoJT72lMz/31EQ6x+qoObm0DSgCfankb YpS20PE4Qj0nD1ANBmYOZik=3D =3Dzybn =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bedslug at davidpashley.com Sat Jan 25 10:37:01 2003 From: bedslug at davidpashley.com (David Pashley) Date: Sat Jan 25 10:37:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Thank You In-Reply-To: <3E31C8A6.70809@gmx.net> References: <200301231247.h0NCl70d004852@router.darlow.co.uk> <200301240921.56413.bedslug@davidpashley.com> <3E31C8A6.70809@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200301251036.24410.bedslug@davidpashley.com> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 24 January 2003 23:13, Tom Chance wrote: > > I use wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net. Seems to be good here. > > OK, still with Mozilla&enigmail here, I can get your key, and Kgpg shows > your key in my list. Enigmail says that I have your key, it's a good > signature, but it's untrusted. How do I tell it to trust you? > > Tom You don't just yet. This will be explained at the key signing party/talk. I= n=20 the mean time, read the gpg manual at http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.ht= ml There is more docs at http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/index.html There are 2 different concepts of trust in PGP web-of-trusts. How much you= =20 trust a key belongs to the person that says it does. You can check this by= =20 swapping fingerprints and id. IMPORTANT: This is done at a face to face=20 meeting. Once you have checked the ID and the fingerprint you can sign the= =20 other persons key. The other trust concept is how much you trust someone else to understand th= e=20 first issue and sign keys correctly. This is done using the trust command i= n=20 gpg --edit-key.=20 IMPORTANT: Never sign a key without checking the key belongs to the owner. = Did=20 I say that was important? =20 =2D --=20 David Pashley david@davidpashley.com Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+MmioYsCKa6wDNXYRAsPpAJ4tr//OQKrtBL8/VAYYAyx8wZGLnwCcDhxY oYoBf9RJW/YfO/1KIxt+tnI=3D =3D8w9I =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From David.McCrossan at ouvip.com Sun Jan 26 12:43:01 2003 From: David.McCrossan at ouvip.com (David McCrossan) Date: Sun Jan 26 12:43:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Newbie sez Thanx too! Message-ID: <200301261242.24512.David.McCrossan@ouvip.com> Nice to meet you guys although I understood only one word in ten. Much to learn, then. See yerz! David From jonathan.dye at automationpartnership.com Tue Jan 28 12:53:01 2003 From: jonathan.dye at automationpartnership.com (Jonathan Dye) Date: Tue Jan 28 12:53:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] apt frontends Message-ID: Hi Guys, I currently just use apt-get for installing and removing debian packages but I would like to try out some graphical front ends. All I've used so far are dselect which is OK and aptitude which I though was horrible. Does anyone have any suggestions for other front ends? I read somewhere about synaptic but I've not had a look at it yet. JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service From neil at darlow.co.uk Tue Jan 28 13:35:01 2003 From: neil at darlow.co.uk (Neil Darlow) Date: Tue Jan 28 13:35:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: apt frontends In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200301281334.h0SDYfPR027522@router.darlow.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jon, On Tuesday 28 Jan 2003 12:57, Jonathan Dye wrote: > I currently just use apt-get for installing and removing debian packages > but I would like to try out some graphical front ends. All I've used so > far are dselect which is OK and aptitude which I though was horrible. Does > anyone have any suggestions for other front ends? I read somewhere about > synaptic but I've not had a look at it yet. apt-get and dselect for me. Although I've heard that real men use dpkg :-) Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- Beds LUGmaster - -- ICQ: 135505456 E-Mail, Jabber and MSNM: Free Software and Open Standards Consultants. WWW: http://www.darlow.co.uk/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Nobu5XniSlMfkEgRArzuAJ9Kc9wncUQ7xE840n3jokKWcwmCZwCdFeTF N+UW9Ih7m/lRt1P3/rM9sbE= =PD4g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alan at tomun.org Tue Jan 28 13:54:01 2003 From: alan at tomun.org (Alan James) Date: Tue Jan 28 13:54:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Re: apt frontends In-Reply-To: <200301281334.h0SDYfPR027522@router.darlow.co.uk> References: <200301281334.h0SDYfPR027522@router.darlow.co.uk> Message-ID: <20030128135331.GB25394@tomun.org> On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:34:21PM +0000, Neil Darlow wrote: > apt-get and dselect for me. Although I've heard that real men use dpkg :-) I just use apt-get and apt-cache myself but I've played with stormpkg which is at least prettier. Alan ps. I saw this on debian-curiosa today: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=177244 From pr at fosdem.org Wed Jan 29 00:17:01 2003 From: pr at fosdem.org (Damien Sandras) Date: Wed Jan 29 00:17:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] Invitation to FOSDEM 2003 Message-ID: Hi, The purpose of this e-mail is to invite you to attend to the 3rd edition of FOSDEM. This edition will take place on the 8th and 9th of February 2003 in Brussels (see http://www.fosdem.org for more info). The previous editions encountered a huge success. More than 1600 people attended to presentations given by well-known speakers such as Richard Stallman, Miguel De Icaza, DJ Adams, Philip Hazel in 2002, and FOSDEM 2003 will try to be even more successful thanks to numerous presentations done by programmers of leading Open Source and Free Software projects. This year, will be present (in alphabetical order): Ann Harrison - Firebird : an Open Source database based on the InterBase(r) Brian King - Mozilla Bruce Momjian - PostgreSQL Core Developer Bruno Coudoin - Author of GCompris Clif Flynt - Tcl/Tk Damien Sandras - GnomeMeeting author David Axmark - MySQL developer David Faure - KDE Core Developer Guenter Bartsch - Author of xine Harald Welte - Member of the Netfilter Core Team Havoc Pennington - GNOME Foundation, Free Standards Hilaire Fernandes - Author of DrGenius Jakub Steiner - Author of many of the GTK 2.x stock icons, Gimp tutorial Jon 'Maddog' Hall - Executive Director of Linux International Julian Smart - Author of wxWindows Michael Meeks - GNOME Core developer Owen Taylor - Maintainer of GTK+ Raphael Hertzog - Author of Debian-Edu Richard M Stallman - Leader of the FSF Solar Designer - Author of Openwall GNU/*/Linux Thomas Vander Stichele - GStreamer Developer Yoann Vandoorselaere & Laurent Oudot - Prelude-IDS authors And many others, ... Several Free or Open Source Software projects have decided to hold a meeting during FOSDEM. It is a great occasion to meet core developers from GNOME, GNUstep, KDE, Mozilla, embedded software and PostgreSQL. Moreover, the Free Software Award will be handed out during the FOSDEM 2003 by Richard Stallman and other members from the Free Software Foundation. FOSDEM's goal is to provide Free Software and Open Source developers and communities the opportunity to learn and discuss the latest developments in the Free and Open Source arena and to promote the development of Free and Open Source solutions. The speakers mainly talk about technologies and make technical speeches. The event is totally free, but we encourage you to support FOSDEM if you appreciate the event and want it to continue in the same spirit. More information about the FOSDEM support operation at: http://www.fosdem.org/index/support/ We hope to see you there. -- FOSDEM 2003 Damien Sandras Community Contact From sacarasc at hotmail.com Wed Jan 29 12:19:01 2003 From: sacarasc at hotmail.com (midi junkie) Date: Wed Jan 29 12:19:01 2003 Subject: [Beds] lmao!! Message-ID: http://www.energypimp.co.uk/ex_salami.htm ^^ energy salami, with gingsing, guarana and taurine why didnt they have this kind of stuff when i was a kid? Latez Fred _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk