[Blackpool] Blackpool Digest, Vol 250, Issue 5
iMac Lover Forever Hulme
thomashulme at msn.com
Sat Aug 16 08:23:38 UTC 2014
Is there anyway of the time today being raised to 2:00, I can't come otherwise!
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> 2. Re: meeting Saturday 10-12 (Arthur Garlick)
> 3. Re: meeting Saturday 10-12 (Les Pounder)
> 4. Re: Saturday (Les Pounder)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:12:21 +0100
> From: Rick Thompson <rick at fieldartcollective.org.uk>
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> Subject: [Blackpool] Saturday
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> I'm hoping to come again this Saturday and would really appreciate an
> Arduino session. I'll try keep up.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
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> > 1. Re: meeting Saturday 10-12 (Michael)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:41:35 +0100
> > From: Michael <heed at bigmassiveheed.co.uk>
> > Cc: LUG Mailman <blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] meeting Saturday 10-12
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> > Morning,
> >
> > There's no need to compare Arduino and PIC. At the hardware level they are
> > one and the same thing, A PIC becomes an Arduino when it has the bootloader
> > burn into it.
> >
> > Where they differ is that its much easier to program for the Arduino due to
> > an IDE using a implementation of the Wiring language and taking care of
> > downloading the code.
> >
> > Compared to the bad (good) old days of messing around with op-codes and
> > compiling the result for burning it is a much nicer environment in which to
> > learn about microcontrollers.
> >
> > No doubt you will be introduced to the shrimp (
> > http://shrimping.it/blog/shrimp/ ) this weekend. This is in essence and
> > Ardunino that has the minimal required components to run and can probably
> > be built from parts you already have kicking about.
> >
> >
> > On 15 August 2014 11:17, Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes please Les. I'm a Pic guy but it's just the first thing I tried. I
> > > looked at PICAXE and dismissed it as not for me compared to spending a
> > > little extra and having the massive choice of the Pic range and tools, but
> > > never looked into Arduino.
> > >
> > > I think my two sons will show to see what its about and if they are there
> > > my wife will want to come too (she loved the MOSI Maker Faire), I hope
> > > that's OK space wise.
> > >
> > > I will bring my Pic setup and our useless machine to quickly show - it
> > > might be good to compare Arduino vs Pic and discuss the pros and cons. My
> > > 10 year old is pretty good with Scratch and together we are looking at
> > > Unity if there is any interest in that. Both my sons and my wife will be
> > > interested in MAME too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Arthur
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:36:34 +0100
> > > > From: lespounder at gmail.com
> > > > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] meeting Saturday 10-12
> > > >
> > > > I'll be there.
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering if anyone would fancy an Arduino session? Do a bit of
> > > > programming and light a few LEDs?
> > > >
> > > > Kieran, you are the Arduino Master at school, bring your Shrimp kit along
> > > > and lets hack!!!
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:07 PM, MJ Hewitt <admin at pcrecycler.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi folks
> > > > >
> > > > > I will be open on Saturday 10 -12
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Mike Hewitt
> > > > >
> > > > > PC Recycler Ltd.
> > > > > 29-35 Ripon road
> > > > > Blackpool FY1 4DY
> > > > > 01253 293258
> > > > > 07711 736899
> > > > > www.pcrecycler.co.uk
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Les Pounder
> > > > http://bigl.es/
> > > > @biglesp on Twitter <https://twitter.com/biglesp>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:33:23 +0000
> From: Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
> To: Michael <heed at bigmassiveheed.co.uk>
> Cc: "=?utf-8?Q?blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk?="
> <blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Blackpool] meeting Saturday 10-12
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> Hi,
>
> Well an example of hardware comparison I?d be interested in would be voltage, I want to run models powered by a 1s LiPo at 3.3 - 4.2 volts, can I do that with an Arduino? My Pic runs happy at these voltages and many peripherals run at 3.3v. I heard the Arduino is a 5v only across the board thing? So the available peripherals will overlap being mostly ttl but I guess the Arduino will have stuff I can?t get for my Pics, these ?shield? things for example not sure what they actually are.
>
>
> With my development kit I can choose from nearly 800 different Pics 8, 16 and 32bit,from 6 pins to 144 so I?ve never thought too much about number of any kinds of ports, pwm etc, I know there will be something that suits me. I wondered what was on an UNO and what Pic it would be equivalent to. And what is the range of models available, I saw an Arduino that had ?Android? splashed across the box, no idea what that?s about.
>
>
>
>
> I could just google this stuff, but I?d rather take the opportunity to meet you guys!
>
>
> Anyway, I paid the Maplin tax and got an Uno so I?ll have a chance to work it out for myself. See you all tomorrow!
>
>
> Rgds
>
>
> Arthur
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Michael
> Sent: ?Friday?, ?15? ?August? ?2014 ?12?:?41
> Cc: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>
>
>
>
>
> Morning,
>
> There's no need to compare Arduino and PIC. At the hardware level they are
> one and the same thing, A PIC becomes an Arduino when it has the bootloader
> burn into it.
>
> Where they differ is that its much easier to program for the Arduino due to
> an IDE using a implementation of the Wiring language and taking care of
> downloading the code.
>
> Compared to the bad (good) old days of messing around with op-codes and
> compiling the result for burning it is a much nicer environment in which to
> learn about microcontrollers.
>
> No doubt you will be introduced to the shrimp (
> http://shrimping.it/blog/shrimp/ ) this weekend. This is in essence and
> Ardunino that has the minimal required components to run and can probably
> be built from parts you already have kicking about.
>
>
> On 15 August 2014 11:17, Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes please Les. I'm a Pic guy but it's just the first thing I tried. I
> > looked at PICAXE and dismissed it as not for me compared to spending a
> > little extra and having the massive choice of the Pic range and tools, but
> > never looked into Arduino.
> >
> > I think my two sons will show to see what its about and if they are there
> > my wife will want to come too (she loved the MOSI Maker Faire), I hope
> > that's OK space wise.
> >
> > I will bring my Pic setup and our useless machine to quickly show - it
> > might be good to compare Arduino vs Pic and discuss the pros and cons. My
> > 10 year old is pretty good with Scratch and together we are looking at
> > Unity if there is any interest in that. Both my sons and my wife will be
> > interested in MAME too.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:36:34 +0100
> > > From: lespounder at gmail.com
> > > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] meeting Saturday 10-12
> > >
> > > I'll be there.
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anyone would fancy an Arduino session? Do a bit of
> > > programming and light a few LEDs?
> > >
> > > Kieran, you are the Arduino Master at school, bring your Shrimp kit along
> > > and lets hack!!!
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:07 PM, MJ Hewitt <admin at pcrecycler.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi folks
> > > >
> > > > I will be open on Saturday 10 -12
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Mike Hewitt
> > > >
> > > > PC Recycler Ltd.
> > > > 29-35 Ripon road
> > > > Blackpool FY1 4DY
> > > > 01253 293258
> > > > 07711 736899
> > > > www.pcrecycler.co.uk
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Blackpool mailing list
> > > > Blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackpool
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Les Pounder
> > > http://bigl.es/
> > > @biglesp on Twitter <https://twitter.com/biglesp>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 21:05:57 +0100
> From: Les Pounder <lespounder at gmail.com>
> To: "blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk" <blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Blackpool] meeting Saturday 10-12
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>
> Hi Arthur
>
> Everyone is welcome to come along tomorrow :)
>
> Arduinos come in all shapes and sizes, I'll bring a few of mine along
> tomorrow. They can handle a variety of voltages but generally output 5V at
> 40ma, but this can be reduced using a resistor. I think that pin 13 on any
> Arduino uses 3.3v as it has an in-line resistor. But as you said we can
> have a chat tomorrow and I'll set up the mame machine for the kids...and
> adults.
>
> See you tomorrow
>
> Les
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Well an example of hardware comparison I'd be interested in would be
> > voltage, I want to run models powered by a 1s LiPo at 3.3 - 4.2 volts, can
> > I do that with an Arduino? My Pic runs happy at these voltages and many
> > peripherals run at 3.3v. I heard the Arduino is a 5v only across the board
> > thing? So the available peripherals will overlap being mostly ttl but I
> > guess the Arduino will have stuff I can't get for my Pics, these 'shield'
> > things for example not sure what they actually are.
> >
> >
> > With my development kit I can choose from nearly 800 different Pics 8, 16
> > and 32bit,from 6 pins to 144 so I've never thought too much about number of
> > any kinds of ports, pwm etc, I know there will be something that suits me.
> > I wondered what was on an UNO and what Pic it would be equivalent to. And
> > what is the range of models available, I saw an Arduino that had 'Android'
> > splashed across the box, no idea what that's about.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I could just google this stuff, but I'd rather take the opportunity to
> > meet you guys!
> >
> >
> > Anyway, I paid the Maplin tax and got an Uno so I'll have a chance to work
> > it out for myself. See you all tomorrow!
> >
> >
> > Rgds
> >
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Windows Mail
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Michael
> > Sent: Friday, 15 August 2014 12:41
> > Cc: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Morning,
> >
> > There's no need to compare Arduino and PIC. At the hardware level they are
> > one and the same thing, A PIC becomes an Arduino when it has the bootloader
> > burn into it.
> >
> > Where they differ is that its much easier to program for the Arduino due to
> > an IDE using a implementation of the Wiring language and taking care of
> > downloading the code.
> >
> > Compared to the bad (good) old days of messing around with op-codes and
> > compiling the result for burning it is a much nicer environment in which to
> > learn about microcontrollers.
> >
> > No doubt you will be introduced to the shrimp (
> > http://shrimping.it/blog/shrimp/ ) this weekend. This is in essence and
> > Ardunino that has the minimal required components to run and can probably
> > be built from parts you already have kicking about.
> >
> >
> > On 15 August 2014 11:17, Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes please Les. I'm a Pic guy but it's just the first thing I tried. I
> > > looked at PICAXE and dismissed it as not for me compared to spending a
> > > little extra and having the massive choice of the Pic range and tools,
> > but
> > > never looked into Arduino.
> > >
> > > I think my two sons will show to see what its about and if they are there
> > > my wife will want to come too (she loved the MOSI Maker Faire), I hope
> > > that's OK space wise.
> > >
> > > I will bring my Pic setup and our useless machine to quickly show - it
> > > might be good to compare Arduino vs Pic and discuss the pros and cons.
> > My
> > > 10 year old is pretty good with Scratch and together we are looking at
> > > Unity if there is any interest in that. Both my sons and my wife will be
> > > interested in MAME too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Arthur
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:36:34 +0100
> > > > From: lespounder at gmail.com
> > > > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] meeting Saturday 10-12
> > > >
> > > > I'll be there.
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering if anyone would fancy an Arduino session? Do a bit of
> > > > programming and light a few LEDs?
> > > >
> > > > Kieran, you are the Arduino Master at school, bring your Shrimp kit
> > along
> > > > and lets hack!!!
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:07 PM, MJ Hewitt <admin at pcrecycler.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi folks
> > > > >
> > > > > I will be open on Saturday 10 -12
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Mike Hewitt
> > > > >
> > > > > PC Recycler Ltd.
> > > > > 29-35 Ripon road
> > > > > Blackpool FY1 4DY
> > > > > 01253 293258
> > > > > 07711 736899
> > > > > www.pcrecycler.co.uk
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Blackpool mailing list
> > > > > Blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackpool
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Les Pounder
> > > > http://bigl.es/
> > > > @biglesp on Twitter <https://twitter.com/biglesp>
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Blackpool mailing list
> > > > Blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/blackpool
> > >
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> > > Blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
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> > >
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>
>
>
> --
> Les Pounder
> http://bigl.es/
> @biglesp on Twitter <https://twitter.com/biglesp>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 21:07:04 +0100
> From: Les Pounder <lespounder at gmail.com>
> To: Rick Thompson <rick at fieldartcollective.org.uk>
> Cc: Blackpool LUG <blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Saturday
> Message-ID:
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>
> Rick, you're more than welcome to come along. Bring your Arduino and a
> laptop :)
>
> Best
> Les
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Rick Thompson <
> rick at fieldartcollective.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > I'm hoping to come again this Saturday and would really appreciate an
> > Arduino session. I'll try keep up.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15 August 2014 13:00:07 blackpool-request at mailman.lug.org.uk wrote:
> >
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> >> 1. Re: meeting Saturday 10-12 (Michael)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:41:35 +0100
> >> From: Michael <heed at bigmassiveheed.co.uk>
> >> Cc: LUG Mailman <blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> >> Subject: Re: [Blackpool] meeting Saturday 10-12
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <CAMReziDWYN8r6KqKxs71Zc9NphWk0iWmhC8a1aPZXanndTEOzQ at mail.
> >> gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>
> >> Morning,
> >>
> >> There's no need to compare Arduino and PIC. At the hardware level they are
> >> one and the same thing, A PIC becomes an Arduino when it has the
> >> bootloader
> >> burn into it.
> >>
> >> Where they differ is that its much easier to program for the Arduino due
> >> to
> >> an IDE using a implementation of the Wiring language and taking care of
> >> downloading the code.
> >>
> >> Compared to the bad (good) old days of messing around with op-codes and
> >> compiling the result for burning it is a much nicer environment in which
> >> to
> >> learn about microcontrollers.
> >>
> >> No doubt you will be introduced to the shrimp (
> >> http://shrimping.it/blog/shrimp/ ) this weekend. This is in essence and
> >> Ardunino that has the minimal required components to run and can probably
> >> be built from parts you already have kicking about.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 15 August 2014 11:17, Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yes please Les. I'm a Pic guy but it's just the first thing I tried. I
> >> > looked at PICAXE and dismissed it as not for me compared to spending a
> >> > little extra and having the massive choice of the Pic range and tools,
> >> but
> >> > never looked into Arduino.
> >> >
> >> > I think my two sons will show to see what its about and if they are
> >> there
> >> > my wife will want to come too (she loved the MOSI Maker Faire), I hope
> >> > that's OK space wise.
> >> >
> >> > I will bring my Pic setup and our useless machine to quickly show - it
> >> > might be good to compare Arduino vs Pic and discuss the pros and cons.
> >> My
> >> > 10 year old is pretty good with Scratch and together we are looking at
> >> > Unity if there is any interest in that. Both my sons and my wife will
> >> be
> >> > interested in MAME too.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Arthur
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:36:34 +0100
> >> > > From: lespounder at gmail.com
> >> > > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] meeting Saturday 10-12
> >> > >
> >> > > I'll be there.
> >> > >
> >> > > I was wondering if anyone would fancy an Arduino session? Do a bit of
> >> > > programming and light a few LEDs?
> >> > >
> >> > > Kieran, you are the Arduino Master at school, bring your Shrimp kit
> >> along
> >> > > and lets hack!!!
> >> > >
> >> > > Les
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:07 PM, MJ Hewitt <admin at pcrecycler.co.uk>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi folks
> >> > > >
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> >> > > > Mike Hewitt
> >> > > >
> >> > > > PC Recycler Ltd.
> >> > > > 29-35 Ripon road
> >> > > > Blackpool FY1 4DY
> >> > > > 01253 293258
> >> > > > 07711 736899
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