[Bradford] Fwd: [lugmaster] RMS visit in August
David Carpenter
david.carpenter at nornir.co.uk
Fri Jun 10 12:19:48 UTC 2011
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 11:53 +0100, Alice Kaerast wrote:
> So I have just discovered. We can invite RMS along as individuals
> interested in free software or as a GLUG but not as a LUG. Our
> website does describe us as a Gnu/Linux User Group, would people say
> that is accurate?
I think I wrote the description and at the time used the term
'GNU/Linux' as it was the one preferred by the Free Software Foundation.
Whether then calling ourselves BradLUG instead of BradGLUG is a problem
I don't know.
ENDS
Cheers
David
> Do we just use LUG as shorthand?
>
> Also, we'd probably need to arrange a venue for him to give a talk or
> work with Leeds. I can talk to Leeds people at WYLUG on Monday (I
> assume that's the next WYLUG meeting?)
>
> Alice
>
>
> On 10 June 2011 11:40, Brian <bradlug at techchico.org.uk> wrote:
> > If we do try it may be wise to take heed of the content in some paragraphs I
> > have pasted below from Wikipedia. In a nutshell it appears that he is very
> > strict on terminology.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > One of his criteria for giving an interview to a journalist is that the
> > journalist agree to use his terminology throughout the article.[53]
> > Sometimes he has even required journalists to read parts of the GNU
> > philosophy before an interview, for "efficiency's sake".[citation needed] He
> > has been known to turn down speaking requests over some terminology
> > issues.[54]
> >
> > Stallman rejects a common alternative term, open source software, because it
> > does not call to mind what Stallman sees as the value of the software:
> > freedom.[55] Thus it will not inform people of the freedom issues, and will
> > not lead to people valuing and defending their freedom.[56] Two alternatives
> > which Stallman does accept are software libre and unfettered software, but
> > free software is the term he asks people to use in English. For similar
> > reasons, he argues for the term "proprietary software" rather than "closed
> > source software", when referring to software that is not free software.
> >
> > Stallman repeatedly asks that the term GNU/Linux, which he pronounces "GNU
> > slash Linux", be used to refer to the operating system created by combining
> > the GNU system and the Linux kernel. Stallman refers to this operating
> > system as "a variant of GNU, and the GNU Project is its principal
> > developer."[54] He claims that the connection between the GNU project's
> > philosophy and its software is broken when people refer to the combination
> > as merely Linux.[57] Starting around 2003, he began also using the term
> > GNU+Linux, which he pronounces "GNU plus Linux".
> >
> > Stallman argues that the term intellectual property is designed to confuse
> > people, and is used to prevent intelligent discussion on the specifics of
> > copyright, patent, trademark and other laws by lumping together areas of law
> > that are more dissimilar than similar.[58] He also argues that by referring
> > to these laws as property laws, the term biases the discussion when thinking
> > about how to treat these issues.
> >
> > Unquote.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dick Thomas <xpd259 at gmail.com>
> > To: Bradlug Mailing lug mailing list <bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > Sent: Sun, 5 June, 2011 21:02:33
> > Subject: [Bradford] Fwd: [lugmaster] RMS visit in August
> >
> > Should we try?
> >
> > Dick Thomas
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> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Michael Dorrington" <michael.dorrington at gmail.com>
> > Date: Jun 5, 2011 8:41 PM
> > Subject: [lugmaster] RMS visit in August
> > To: "A closed discussion list for UK LUGMasters."
> > <lugmaster at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> >
> > Richard Stallman (aka RMS), founder of the Free Software Foundation
> > (FSF), GNU's Not Unix (GNU) and the Free Software Movement is in
> > Edinburgh on 26th-28th August and can give a few speeches in other
> > places in the UK before this. If you have a good venue for him then
> > please let me know and I'll pass it on.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mike.
> >
> >
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