[Bradford] Ubuntu
Nick Rhodes
nick at ngrhodes.co.uk
Tue Aug 13 08:03:39 UTC 2013
Try again.
Up until 6 months ago I had been a .net developer. I don't miss it. Really
enjoying programming in dynamic languages, php mostly and bits of Python
are so refreshing to work with.
On 13 Aug 2013 07:02, "Mohammed Djavanroodi" <mo.roodi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> Sounds like your attitude towards Ubuntu is very similar to mine, although
> I have to admit I don't have much experience with Ubuntu on the server as I
> work with .Net which in the corporate environment at the moment means I
> work with Windows and Visual Studio and the like.
>
> I think the "problem" at the moment is that we're in the wait and see
> phase of the changes which Canonical are introducing. That always leads to
> a certain amount of uncertainty, which is never good when you have to use
> an OS on a daily basis. Obviously sticking with the LTS version does make
> things a little more certain. I think the "problem" with Mir is the same.
> Things are still up in the air, and we're not sure about proprietary
> graphics vendors supporting Mir so it means that people just aren't sure
> how things are going to play out. Getting it ready to be the default by
> 14.04 is certainly a bold and ambitious move!
>
> I agree wholeheartedly about Unity. If they had just waited until 12.04
> before making Unity the default I think the backlash would have been much
> smaller. Unity has become a very stable and easy to use DE. And I've
> recently started taking much better advantage of the lenses and scopes to
> search things like iPlayer, GitHub, and Wikipedia and I think they
> definitely have their uses. If the amazon search stuff had been installed
> as a separate scope rather than being included in the home lens again I
> believe the backlash would've been much smaller and there would have been
> far fewer people removing it (I know quite a lot of people who did end up
> removing it because the results were just annoying and not relevant).
>
> As for convergence I know this is going to be the next big thing. Working
> on websites I know that since the introduction of the iPhone in 2007 the
> number of people browsing the web via mobiles has gone through the roof,
> and with smartphones pretty much becoming ubiquitous and more powerful it's
> only natural that they're going to become as capable as a netbook (which I
> think is the market they should be aiming for). Admittedly Canonical
> aren't the first people to think of this idea, Motorola attempted it with
> the Atrix in 2011, which was a very interesting idea, but totally hampered
> by Motorola's lackluster "desktop" OS, which although was based on Ubuntu
> (I believe) was just the Firefox web browser and was completely useless.
> But IF Canonical's implementation lives up to expectations and the hype I
> think it could really be a great OS for these hybrid devices. But they do
> need to make sure that the Desktop OS isn't full of too many compromises.
> Take Windows 8 as an example. I use Windows 8 at work and I can honestly
> say that if you ignore the whole Metro/Modern/Windows 8/whatever UI it is
> actually one of Microsoft's most accomplished versions of Windows. The
> focus on mobile has meant that it's quick, and lightweight, and works on a
> huge range of devices. But what Microsoft have done is they've made too
> many compromises on the desktop. I use a 3 widescreen setup and when you're
> in a metro app there's just too much wasted space. Maybe 8.1 will redress
> this somewhat, but who knows. If Canonical can maintain Ubuntu's desktop
> experience without making too many compromises then I don't see why
> convergence couldn't work.
>
> Well it looks like the Ubuntu Edge campaign isn't going to hit its $32M
> target, but the more I think about it (and maybe this is the cynic in me
> coming out) I don't really think this was ever about making this device.
> Sure if they hit the target they would make the phone, but what I really
> think this was all about was a *relatively* cheap marketing campaign. Just
> look at the amount of press it's received! I think this article sums up why
> Canonical has attempted this:
> http://www.zdnet.com/canonical-will-win-even-if-ubuntu-edge-doesnt-make-its-32-million-7000019241/.
> Personally I believe that ChromeOS is pretty well suited to these devices,
> to the point where I believe Google has totally missed a trick:
> http://mohammed.djavanroodi.co.uk/2013/06/18/has-google-missed-a-trick/.
>
> M
>
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