[Bradford] Meeting tonight.

Kriss at XIXs.com Kriss at XIXs.com
Sun Sep 1 17:58:04 UTC 2013 

Yay, thank you. :)

I think the PPA is now working but its still kind of hard to connect to the
PPA, perhaps the simplest thing is just to link to a recent .deb file which
will then be installed automatically when downloaded and run. I'm not sure
how the different releases are supported as it only seems to have been
built once and the "copy to" other release button on launchpad fails to
work. Maybe its just working.

Probably linking to
https://launchpad.net/~kriss-o/+archive/gamecake/+files/gamecake_13.659.0_i386.debor
https://launchpad.net/~kriss-o/+archive/gamecake/+files/gamecake_13.659.0_amd64.debis
the safe option but, I'm still unsure about the best way and maybe
that
one is bad as well. It's just DLL hell.

So, the lesson learned is that it is really difficult to distribute
compiled code to the fragmented linux target. Every single release/distro
needs its own build, even when things are almost the same. So the only
sensible binary choice is "latest ubuntu" or "wine".

Talking of which I have submitted bulbaceous to the ubuntu app store but
it's just sitting there waiting, apparently just for someone to look at it.
No idea how long that will take but it has been a couple of weeks so far.



On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:48 AM, David Carpenter <
david.carpenter at nornir.co.uk> wrote:

> Just to let you know that I managed to add the PPa to my sources
> (Xubuntu 12.04). I then installed gamecake via synaptic.
>
> I grabbed a copy of Dr Bulbaceoius from
>  http://dime.lo4d.net/dl/bulbaceous/bcbradio
>
> and ran it from within the bulbaceous directory with:
> gamecake lua/init.lua
>
> and it worked.
>
> I also cloned the bitbucket repository and can run the sample games in
> the gamecakejam directory with the same commands. Cool!
>
> Thanks!
>
> David
>
> On 20 August 2013 22:02, Kriss at XIXs.com <Kriss at xixs.com> wrote:
> > and the PPA now actually seem to contain something.
> >
> > https://launchpad.net/~kriss-o/+archive/gamecake
> >
> > Haven't tested it yet (still waiting on the 32bit version to build) but
> if
> > it managed to compile then I reckon we may have a win.
> >
> > Next up is fixing its description/text and setting it to the right
> version
> > number.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Kriss at XIXs.com <Kriss at xixs.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm currently building using the following repo.
> >>
> >> https://bitbucket.org/xixs/build.gamecake
> >>
> >> The build script in the base is the script that tries to build something
> >> that I can then upload to launchpad.
> >>
> >> The files under debian are the things that are generally getting
> tweaked.
> >>
> >> not very useful commit messages though since I have no idea what I'm
> doing
> >> :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:28 PM, David Carpenter
> >> <david.carpenter at nornir.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can we follow your antics on launchpad? Is there a URL?
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>> On 20 August 2013 15:29, Kriss at XIXs.com <Kriss at xixs.com> wrote:
> >>> > Hiya,
> >>> >
> >>> > CC'd back into bradlug since there were some other people interested
> >>> > and I
> >>> > figure it might be relevant.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > The quality control part of PPAs seems to be based on a form of faith
> >>> > based
> >>> > geek magick.
> >>> >
> >>> > You are required to download a code of conduct, sign it using PGP and
> >>> > return
> >>> > it to them.
> >>> >
> >>> > Which I did, without reading it. I assume it said something along the
> >>> > lines
> >>> > of "Be excellent to each other!".
> >>> >
> >>> > https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct
> >>> >
> >>> > Honestly this whole just reminds me of trying to use sourceforge and
> >>> > why I
> >>> > stopped doing that some time ago. :)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Right now I have submitted some code to a PPA, yesterday, and have
> >>> > currently
> >>> > no response back as to why it did not work, or even that it did not
> >>> > work or
> >>> > even just acknowledging that I submitted some code. IE no automated
> >>> > feedback
> >>> > whatsoever.
> >>> >
> >>> > Maybe something will pop up later today. I don't actually expect it
> to
> >>> > build
> >>> > due to missing dependencies, but I *was* expecting an error
> response...
> >>> >
> >>> > Preferably within 24 hours otherwise this is going to be a rather
> >>> > painful
> >>> > process.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:19 PM, John R. Hudson
> >>> > <j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hi Kriss
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I realised that Brian and I had a brief conversation last evening on
> >>> >> this topic which might have been useful for you.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> He was commenting that the PPA system didn't appear to have much
> >>> >> quality
> >>> >> control. I commented that the same may be true of the Open Build
> >>> >> Service.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> This was originally SUSE's internal build software but it was
> >>> >> open-sourced several years ago and supports the SUSE repositories,
> the
> >>> >> official openSUSE repositories, a number of community repositories
> and
> >>> >> personal repositories.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> AFAIK the only quality checks on personal repositories are inherent
> in
> >>> >> the Open Build Service software.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> This will build packages for a wide range of platforms from Centos
> to
> >>> >> Ubuntu - all the KDE software is built on it - but not so far the
> >>> >> Raspberry PI - however that could change.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I've only found one piece of software packaged from a personal
> >>> >> repository that did not work and am happily running several programs
> >>> >> from such repos.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> You can check it out at
> >>> >> http://openbuildservice.org/
> >>> >>
> >>> >> John
> >>> >> --
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 18:13 +0100, Kriss at XIXs.com wrote:
> >>> >> > Hello,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I don't suppose anyone going tonight has any experience with using
> >>> >> > ubuntu launchpad and the whole PPA to build code system?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I'm currently trying to get a PPA setup to build/distribute a
> >>> >> > project
> >>> >> > of mine, but of course this activity is somewhat arcane.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Lots of strange configuration files and I'm probably doing
> >>> >> > everything
> >>> >> > wrong, so not having much luck at the moment. Just generally
> bashing
> >>> >> > my head against the usual strange and rather pointless problems.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Even when thats solved I'm going to have some advanced future
> >>> >> > problems
> >>> >> > such as I would like to also support arm and I currently cross
> >>> >> > compile
> >>> >> > for arm but have no idea how to fit that sort of activity into the
> >>> >> > auto build systems and their DLL hell coping mechanisms.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Cheers,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:39 AM, David Spencer
> >>> >> > <baildon.research at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >         > Your putting your rants on video now ?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >         Nobody wants to see that :-)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >         By the way:
> >>> >> >         >> There's a fifteen min [1] video I'd like to share.
>  I'll
> >>> >> >         bring speakers
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >         404 Footnote Not Found
> >>> >> >         Should have refined fifteen min to 14 min 49 sec.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >         -D.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >         _______________________________________________
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> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --
> >>> >> > Kriss
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > http://www.WetGenes.com/
> >>> >> >
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> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Kriss
> >>> >
> >>> > http://www.WetGenes.com/
> >>> >
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kriss
> >>
> >> http://www.WetGenes.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kriss
> >
> > http://www.WetGenes.com/
>



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Kriss

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