From darren.drapkin at ntlworld.com Wed Apr 1 13:34:04 2020 From: darren.drapkin at ntlworld.com (Darren Drapkin) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 13:34:04 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Keeping track of covid19 Message-ID: <2835666.f70W7Pqho9@glide> I hope you are all keeping track of the epidemic with the WHO covid19 situation dashboard (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd) and the WHO emergency diseases covid19 reports page (https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019) -- Yours &c. Darren Drapkin From j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com Wed Apr 1 13:36:22 2020 From: j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com (John Robert Hudson) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 13:36:22 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Keeping track of covid19 In-Reply-To: <2835666.f70W7Pqho9@glide> References: <2835666.f70W7Pqho9@glide> Message-ID: <1629903.YsRaBPjC1E@linux-wmfr> HI Darren Yes but I am using https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html[1] which is really fascinating. 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URL: From notshi at gmail.com Wed Apr 1 15:42:38 2020 From: notshi at gmail.com (shi) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:42:38 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Keeping track of covid19 In-Reply-To: <1629903.YsRaBPjC1E@linux-wmfr> References: <2835666.f70W7Pqho9@glide> <1629903.YsRaBPjC1E@linux-wmfr> Message-ID: Hello, We are keeping track of a couple of things: International aid funding via http://d-portal.org/ctrack.html?text_search=covid-19#view=main Local UK Charities via http://grantnav.threesixtygiving.org/search -- shi On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 14:36, John Robert Hudson via Bradford < bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > HI Darren > > > > Yes but I am using https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html which is really > fascinating. > > > > John > > > > On Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:33:34 BST Darren Drapkin via Bradford wrote: > > > I hope you are all keeping track of the epidemic with the WHO covid19 > > > situation dashboard > > > > > > ( > https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd) > > > > > > and the WHO emergency diseases covid19 reports page > > > > > > (https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019) > > > > > > -- > > > Yours &c. > > > Darren Drapkin > > > > > > -- > > > Bradford mailing list > > > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford > > > > > -- > Bradford mailing list > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alice at kaerast.info Wed Apr 1 17:39:06 2020 From: alice at kaerast.info (Alice .) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:39:06 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Keeping track of covid19 In-Reply-To: References: <2835666.f70W7Pqho9@glide> <1629903.YsRaBPjC1E@linux-wmfr> Message-ID: Hi, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ is fairly accurate, and has sources (but turn on ad-blockers). I'm finding it particularly useful for getting data for multiple countries for comparison purposes (particularly Sweden), and I'm copying the data into a local spreadsheet. I should really turn this into something more shareable like a Jupyter notebook. The number of cases is a poor measure for most countries, as the testing is relatively small. And the different amount of testing, as well as different populations, between countries makes it hard to compare directly. The number of deaths is a better measure, but tracks behind initial infection by weeks. So it's hard to see impacts of any legislation. The number of deaths we see reported in the UK are not final numbers, but they at least give an indication of trend. For the final figures on registered deaths we need to go to the ONS, which currently only has data up until 20th March, but does now include COVID-19 specific data - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales (data gets updated on a Tuesday) These final figures then get rolled up into European-wide reporting every Thursday lunchtime. This again only runs up to week 12 (20th March?) and is an all-causes mortality index rather than specific to any causes. The raw data doesn't seem to be available, only graphs. What this means however is that we can eyeball the current situation in comparison to previous years flu epidemics. https://www.euromomo.eu/ Hong Kong clearly has less strict privacy laws, because they are reporting on every single case. Unfortunately it's in PDF format, and not nice to extract data from. https://www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/local_situation_covid19_en.pdf But talking of privacy - MIT have produced a contact-tracing app which keeps your data on your device unless you are infected. This seems a much better solution than the ones governments are creating, without the backing of government/media it's unlikely to get enough people using it. https://safepaths.mit.edu/ Finally, you (probably) aren't an epidemiologist - you can't just apply data science to this without understanding a lot more about what's going on behind the numbers. Thanks Alice On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 16:42, shi via Bradford wrote: > Hello, > > We are keeping track of a couple of things: > > International aid funding via > http://d-portal.org/ctrack.html?text_search=covid-19#view=main > Local UK Charities via http://grantnav.threesixtygiving.org/search > > > -- > shi > > > > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 14:36, John Robert Hudson via Bradford < > bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > >> HI Darren >> >> >> >> Yes but I am using https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html which is really >> fascinating. >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:33:34 BST Darren Drapkin via Bradford wrote: >> >> > I hope you are all keeping track of the epidemic with the WHO covid19 >> >> > situation dashboard >> >> > >> >> > ( >> https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd >> ) >> >> > >> >> > and the WHO emergency diseases covid19 reports page >> >> > >> >> > (https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019) >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Yours &c. >> >> > Darren Drapkin >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Bradford mailing list >> >> > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk >> >> > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bradford mailing list >> Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford > > -- > Bradford mailing list > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Got a couple of (small) things to share. John From john at johnleach.co.uk Tue Apr 14 12:40:35 2020 From: john at johnleach.co.uk (John Leach) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:40:35 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Jitsi meet In-Reply-To: <2143642.uoqlHlT3Au@linux-wmfr> References: <2143642.uoqlHlT3Au@linux-wmfr> Message-ID: Hi John, I can't make it tonight, but I will just say that we've found Jitsi to not work so well with Firefox at the moment - any firefox users in the group can cause problems and bandwidth increases for everyone else. It definitely works better if everyone is using Chrome/Chromium (or the Android/iphone apps). A shame of course, but there are some historical reasons around the webRTC standard that kind of caused it. Jitsi are working on sorting out Firefox compatibility asap (the lockdown has boosted interest in Jitsi as you might imagine, so they're working around the clock to improve it in loads of ways!) John. On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 12:54, John Robert Hudson via Bradford wrote: > > Hi all > > I thought I would hang out on https://bradlug.esyou.com/ > GreenMushroomsPaintNicely this evening from around 7 in case anyone is feeling > BradLUG deprivation. Got a couple of (small) things to share. > > John > > > > > -- > Bradford mailing list > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford From bradlug at hackroyd.org.uk Tue Apr 14 13:16:11 2020 From: bradlug at hackroyd.org.uk (bradlug at hackroyd.org.uk) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:16:11 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Jitsi meet In-Reply-To: References: <2143642.uoqlHlT3Au@linux-wmfr> Message-ID: <481258220.618316.1586870166613@mail.yahoo.com> I normally use Firefox but Jitsi recommend the use of a Chrome browser. Hence I use the Brave browser. Brian On Tuesday, 14 April 2020, 14:41:05 CEST, John Leach via Bradford wrote: Hi John, I can't make it tonight, but I will just say that we've found Jitsi to not work so well with Firefox at the moment - any firefox users in the group can cause problems and bandwidth increases for everyone else. It definitely works better if everyone is using Chrome/Chromium (or the Android/iphone apps). A shame of course, but there are some historical reasons around the webRTC standard that kind of caused it. Jitsi are working on sorting out Firefox compatibility asap (the lockdown has boosted interest in Jitsi as you might imagine, so they're working around the clock to improve it in loads of ways!) John. On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 12:54, John Robert Hudson via Bradford wrote: > > Hi all > > I thought I would hang out on https://bradlug.esyou.com/ > GreenMushroomsPaintNicely this evening from around 7 in case anyone is feeling > BradLUG deprivation. Got a couple of (small) things to share. > > John > > > > > -- > Bradford mailing list > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford -- Bradford mailing list Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com Tue Apr 14 18:05:23 2020 From: j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com (John Robert Hudson) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 18:05:23 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Jisti meeting Message-ID: <2935099.KAtgr8cNxh@linux-wmfr> Hi all We are logged in to the GreenMushrooms meeting. John From baildon.research at googlemail.com Tue Apr 14 18:13:41 2020 From: baildon.research at googlemail.com (David Spencer) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 18:13:41 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Jitsi meet In-Reply-To: <481258220.618316.1586870166613@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2143642.uoqlHlT3Au@linux-wmfr> <481258220.618316.1586870166613@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Come on folks we're live now!! :D On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 14:16, bradlug--- via Bradford wrote: > > I normally use Firefox but Jitsi recommend the use of a Chrome browser. Hence I use the Brave browser. > > Brian > > On Tuesday, 14 April 2020, 14:41:05 CEST, John Leach via Bradford wrote: > > > Hi John, > > I can't make it tonight, but I will just say that we've found Jitsi to > not work so well with Firefox at the moment - any firefox users in the > group can cause problems and bandwidth increases for everyone else. It > definitely works better if everyone is using Chrome/Chromium (or the > Android/iphone apps). A shame of course, but there are some historical > reasons around the webRTC standard that kind of caused it. Jitsi are > working on sorting out Firefox compatibility asap (the lockdown has > boosted interest in Jitsi as you might imagine, so they're working > around the clock to improve it in loads of ways!) > > John. > > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 12:54, John Robert Hudson via Bradford > wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > I thought I would hang out on https://bradlug.esyou.com/ > > GreenMushroomsPaintNicely this evening from around 7 in case anyone is feeling > > BradLUG deprivation. Got a couple of (small) things to share. > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bradford mailing list > > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford > > > -- > Bradford mailing list > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford > -- > Bradford mailing list > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford From baildon.research at googlemail.com Wed Apr 15 08:07:35 2020 From: baildon.research at googlemail.com (David Spencer) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 08:07:35 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Jitsi meet In-Reply-To: References: <2143642.uoqlHlT3Au@linux-wmfr> <481258220.618316.1586870166613@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Resin printer update! Please pardon the crapness of the photo to get it below the tragically outdated mailing list size threshold For the record it took 6h 13m (there's a popup when finished that includes the print time) With bonus view of the orange blob of grease from the factory Definitely not going to tackle the huge messy cleanup and hazmat gear cosplay until dinnertime [*] For anybody wondering, this was delivered many months ago and I only just got round to unboxing it. Still smells bad :( ttfn -D. [*] lunchtime -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_20200415_073502878_lowres.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 27271 bytes Desc: not available URL: From j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com Wed Apr 15 09:01:31 2020 From: j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com (John Robert Hudson) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 09:01:31 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Jitsi meet In-Reply-To: References: <2143642.uoqlHlT3Au@linux-wmfr> Message-ID: <2121761.36qiz2rYh8@linux-wmfr> Hi David Thanks. Will pop it on the website with a brief report on yesterday’s meeting. The resolution is fine for the website! John On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:07:19 BST David Spencer via Bradford wrote: > Resin printer update! > Please pardon the crapness of the photo to get it below the tragically > outdated mailing list size threshold > > For the record it took 6h 13m (there's a popup when finished that > includes the print time) > With bonus view of the orange blob of grease from the factory > Definitely not going to tackle the huge messy cleanup and hazmat gear > cosplay until dinnertime [*] > > For anybody wondering, this was delivered many months ago and I only > just got round to unboxing it. > > Still smells bad :( > > ttfn > -D. > > [*] lunchtime From j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com Wed Apr 15 14:07:08 2020 From: j.r.hudson at virginmedia.com (John Robert Hudson) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 14:07:08 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Jitsi meet In-Reply-To: <2121761.36qiz2rYh8@linux-wmfr> References: <2143642.uoqlHlT3Au@linux-wmfr> <2121761.36qiz2rYh8@linux-wmfr> Message-ID: <4655739.af4RQb4sk0@linux-wmfr> HI all The report on yesterday’s meeting along with David’s photos is on the website. John On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 10:01:28 BST John Robert Hudson via Bradford wrote: > Hi David > > Thanks. Will pop it on the website with a brief report on yesterday’s > meeting. The resolution is fine for the website! > > John > > On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:07:19 BST David Spencer via Bradford wrote: > > Resin printer update! > > Please pardon the crapness of the photo to get it below the tragically > > outdated mailing list size threshold > > > > For the record it took 6h 13m (there's a popup when finished that > > includes the print time) > > With bonus view of the orange blob of grease from the factory > > Definitely not going to tackle the huge messy cleanup and hazmat gear > > cosplay until dinnertime [*] > > > > For anybody wondering, this was delivered many months ago and I only > > just got round to unboxing it. > > > > Still smells bad :( > > > > ttfn > > -D. > > > > [*] lunchtime > > -- > Bradford mailing list > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford From bradlug at hackroyd.org.uk Wed Apr 15 14:22:56 2020 From: bradlug at hackroyd.org.uk (bradlug at hackroyd.org.uk) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 14:22:56 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Leeds PHP on line tonight at 19:00 BST References: <1203610012.1858469.1586960549501.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1203610012.1858469.1586960549501@mail.yahoo.com> Tonight @ 19:00 BST, Leeds PHP has an on-line event. I regularly go to this group's meeting when I am in the UK.  You are supposed to go via Meetup.com for the link but here are the details if you want to join in. Brian Here are the details followed by the URL. --------This is a free event, open to all. Due to the current situation with COVID-19 this event will be online only. The event will be streamed via YouTube. You'll have to provide your own pizza and drinks for this one. _______________________________ ★ The talks ✩ Intro to BDD - Ciaran McNulty (@CiaranMcNulty) Behaviour Driven Development techniques help us to ensure that the code we're writing is solving real-world problems. We will see how a BDD process can help us define a feature, write the code, and then validate the code using tools like Behat ✩ Effective (remote) Working - Hugh Noble (@HughNoble) Most of us will be working from home at the moment and I thought it would be a good idea to share some techniques that can implement to help us to work effectively as a team remotely. _______________________________ ★ Timings 19:00 – Dial in, get your webcam working, make yourself comfortable 19:05 – Welcome and meetup news 19:10 – Effective (remote) Working - Hugh Noble (@HughNoble) 19:25 – A little break 19:30 – Intro to BDD - Ciaran McNulty (@CiaranMcNulty) 20:15ish – End Leeds PHP 15th April 2020 | | | | | | | | | | | Leeds PHP 15th April 2020 Leeds PHP April Remote Meetup | | | ---------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From notshi at gmail.com Wed Apr 15 14:23:33 2020 From: notshi at gmail.com (shi) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 14:23:33 -0000 Subject: [Bradford] Jitsi meet In-Reply-To: <4655739.af4RQb4sk0@linux-wmfr> References: <2143642.uoqlHlT3Au@linux-wmfr> <2121761.36qiz2rYh8@linux-wmfr> <4655739.af4RQb4sk0@linux-wmfr> Message-ID: Many thanks, John. We enjoyed the meeting last night and appreciate the post *and* closeups of David's beautiful first resin print! -- shi On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 15:07, John Robert Hudson via Bradford < bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > HI all > > The report on yesterday’s meeting along with David’s photos is on the > website. > > John > > On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 10:01:28 BST John Robert Hudson via Bradford > wrote: > > Hi David > > > > Thanks. Will pop it on the website with a brief report on yesterday’s > > meeting. The resolution is fine for the website! > > > > John > > > > On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 09:07:19 BST David Spencer via Bradford > wrote: > > > Resin printer update! > > > Please pardon the crapness of the photo to get it below the tragically > > > outdated mailing list size threshold > > > > > > For the record it took 6h 13m (there's a popup when finished that > > > includes the print time) > > > With bonus view of the orange blob of grease from the factory > > > Definitely not going to tackle the huge messy cleanup and hazmat gear > > > cosplay until dinnertime [*] > > > > > > For anybody wondering, this was delivered many months ago and I only > > > just got round to unboxing it. > > > > > > Still smells bad :( > > > > > > ttfn > > > -D. > > > > > > [*] lunchtime > > > > -- > > Bradford mailing list > > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford > > > > > > -- > Bradford mailing list > Bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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